RE: BMW M5: PH Fleet

Friday 15th June 2018

BMW M5: PH Fleet

Big miles for the PH M5 recently - smiles, too.



I know it's a worn motoring cliché, but the PH BMW M5 has genuinely become the choice car for a "cross continental hack". Well, kinda. Recently it has been to Germany to support our spectating (and some road testing) at the Nurburgring 24 hours, and as this story is published it'll already be covered in Arnage dust.

Which is the kind of job it excels at. (The driving, not gathering dust.) Partly that's because it has a 600hp V8 that makes for the easiest overtaking this side of an electric motor, and an eight-speed auto lets it turn over at such an easy pace that, with a 68 litre fuel tank and economy, if you're careful, you an approach mid 20s mpg and get 350 miles out of a tank. Sure, that's not the 600 miles of an exceptional diesel, but, heck, I'm 43 and drink a lot of tea, so I need to stop at least that often anyway.


But mostly it's good at this sort of thing because the M5 when all's said and done, is more than anything still 5-Series. So it's big and quiet. The infotainment system is massively comprehensive (although charing £235 for CarPlay is a bit of a swizz), and the seats are magnificent. As standard they adjust so much that even the backrest has two adjustable sections, notwithstanding adjustable lumbar and bolster support. They're cooled, massaged, and heated by option, too.

I sometimes wonder how many electric motors there are in a car: I suspect there are almost as many in each M5 chair as there are in my house. At 9000 miles the M5 is saying it doesn't need a service for another 8000 miles, too, which is respectable for a car of this kind of potential. BMW did take it back for a software update prior to its latest trip: at which time it kindly made a repair to a tiny windscreen stonechip, and replaced the wheel centre caps that had gone missing from both front wheels, presumably because some toe-rag had pinched them. Is this a thing?


The crew there noted there tyres were down to 4mm of tread depth. Still comfortably twice the legal limit, but BMW would recommend replacing them at 3mm. This M5 has been exercised: on circuit for group tests and road tests. With the more gentle road use I'll see how they get on. If it were the end of summer, I'd start thinking about it already.

Meantime, though, the 4wd system means there's precious little slip, even when I have to pull out of my driveway onto a poorly-sighted 50mph road, (which makes life in the family Defender when stone cold interesting). The dampers can be put from 'nicely controlled' to 'really uncomfy' very easily, ditto the steering. The optional (£7495) carbon ceramic brakes have terrific stopping power and, under bigger braking efforts, give terrific feel.


Niggles? Precious few. Slowing in traffic to a gentle stop can be awkward: you approach stationary, the stop-start system cuts the engine, which causes you to decelerate suddenly and harshly, so you lift off the brake pedal to smooth that ... and the engine cuts back in, which makes coming to a chauffeur-worthy stop incredibly difficult. A mark of its sporting pretence, I suppose.

Unless it's just me and my clumsy old feet. As I write, the M5 is in the company of somebody younger and perhaps more deft of foot, so if you so if you see Matt Bird at Le Mans, you can ask him.


FACT SHEET
Car
: 2018 BMW M5
On fleet since: April 2018
Run by: Matt Prior
List price new: £87,940 (As tested £101,900, because: £1,995 Premium Package including soft-close doors, massage seats, ceramic finish for controls, £1,195 Comfort Package including steering wheel heating, seat heating all-round), £1,100 M Sports exhaust, £1,025 carbon engine cover, £7,495 carbon ceramic brakes, £260 M seat belts, £495 carbon/aluminium-look trim, £235 Apple CarPlay, £160 online entertainment)
Last month at a glance: Big miles for the M5 - smiles, too

 

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Guffy

Original Poster:

2,311 posts

266 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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I'm sure it's a fine drive and it is a nice looking car, but £100k nice for what is in my eyes quite a staid looking saloon? I suppose that will be the attraction for many though.


drpep

1,758 posts

169 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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I imagine this latest M5 is a superb place to cover miles in. BMW could have done a little more with the wheel arches; nothing crazy, just a little more flare and stance.

Splendid machinery. Lucky journos!

irish boy

3,538 posts

237 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Looks like quite a machine.

The f10 is surely one of the best performance used purchases at the minute.

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Tank to small at 68 litres. Should be 80.

British Beef

2,220 posts

166 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Everything getting too big with these cars, from size, peformance to cost.

Deeply impressive if you have an autobarn on your doorstep, and or dont mind dropping £50k depreciation in 3 years.

Personally I would go for the Gandcoupe M6, as that car for me looks better resolved at this price point.

matt666

445 posts

205 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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My 530 does that auto start stop thing too. Hopefully it can be resolved by a software update as my 330 didn’t do it

culpz

4,884 posts

113 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Guffy said:
I'm sure it's a fine drive and it is a nice looking car, but £100k nice for what is in my eyes quite a staid looking saloon? I suppose that will be the attraction for many though.
As you said, the discreetness has always been part of the appeal for the M5. Not everyone will like that quality though and i can understand that.

In terms of the comment on the price, how much do you think BMW should offer the car at? What would me more acceptable in your eyes? I don't find myself massively surprised at the asking price of these premium German cars if i'm honest. It's alot of money for a 5-Series and £100k does look steep on face-value but the M5 is just so much more than that in what it offers as a package.

Silverbullet767

10,714 posts

207 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Give it around 8 years or so and mere mortals like myself could probably afford to buy one, roll on 2026 smile

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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British Beef said:
if you have an autobarn on your doorstep.

I would love one, I would fill it with all sorts of cars wink

E36Dan

7,543 posts

169 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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The M5 is the ultimate car, every time. I'm trying to think of a generation which was not special in some way. Nope, love them all. I can't even dislike the new one for all its modern gimmicks, I hope it sells, as we all know the humble saloon's days are numbered.

Can't wait to catch one in the flesh.

/fanboy

SpunkyM

250 posts

245 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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You can turn the stop start bks thing off in the F80 M3, can you not turn it off on the M5?

greenarrow

3,606 posts

118 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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E36Dan said:
The M5 is the ultimate car, every time. I'm trying to think of a generation which was not special in some way. Nope, love them all. I can't even dislike the new one for all its modern gimmicks, I hope it sells, as we all know the humble saloon's days are numbered.

Can't wait to catch one in the flesh.

/fanboy
+1 !

I remember seeing an E39 M5 for the first time in the flesh in 1999..I was smitten. I don't even like BMWs much either (mainly BMW drivers tbh!), but the M5 and to a lesser extent the M3 do tick the boxes for me.

TheAngryDog

12,409 posts

210 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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E36Dan said:
The M5 is the ultimate car, every time. I'm trying to think of a generation which was not special in some way. Nope, love them all. I can't even dislike the new one for all its modern gimmicks, I hope it sells, as we all know the humble saloon's days are numbered.

Can't wait to catch one in the flesh.

/fanboy
I adore M5's, they do so much so well. Much better than Audi IMO.

Hitch

6,107 posts

195 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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I'm not sure on these hyper-mega-saloons and estates. They have the performance of a supercar but lack the drama. They have (most of) the practicality of a saloon but lack the inevitable six cylinder diesel for super long continent crushing stints. They're full of luxury tech but lack the finesse of a GT. Are they the ultimate all rounder or too much everyday and too much for a continent crosser?

I know I'm getting old when I look back at the E39 as the pinnacle of the M5 genre; 0-60 in a smidge under 5 and topping out at 155mph still seems about what I'd want.

I think I need to drive one.

Jazzer

1,680 posts

205 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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British Beef said:
Everything getting too big with these cars, from size, peformance to cost.

Deeply impressive if you have an autobarn on your doorstep, and or dont mind dropping £50k depreciation in 3 years.

Personally I would go for the Gandcoupe M6, as that car for me looks better resolved at this price point.
£50K in three years?

It will easily be closer to £70K.....just wait and see!

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Jazzer said:
British Beef said:
Everything getting too big with these cars, from size, peformance to cost.

Deeply impressive if you have an autobarn on your doorstep, and or dont mind dropping £50k depreciation in 3 years.

Personally I would go for the Gandcoupe M6, as that car for me looks better resolved at this price point.
£50K in three years?

It will easily be closer to £70K.....just wait and see!
Agreed.

Seems BMW FS don’t have much confidence in these as advertised final payment on an £89k list car with no options is £36k after 36 months.

godzilla84

148 posts

181 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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drpep said:
I imagine this latest M5 is a superb place to cover miles in. BMW could have done a little more with the wheel arches; nothing crazy, just a little more flare and stance.

Splendid machinery. Lucky journos!
Like they have with the current M3. thumbup

B17NNS

18,506 posts

248 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Fabulous thing but ruinous depreciation. Three year lease works out around £1660 per month yikes

E65Ross

35,116 posts

213 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Hitch said:
I'm not sure on these hyper-mega-saloons and estates. They have the performance of a supercar but lack the drama. They have (most of) the practicality of a saloon but lack the inevitable six cylinder diesel for super long continent crushing stints. They're full of luxury tech but lack the finesse of a GT. Are they the ultimate all rounder or too much everyday and too much for a continent crosser?

I know I'm getting old when I look back at the E39 as the pinnacle of the M5 genre; 0-60 in a smidge under 5 and topping out at 155mph still seems about what I'd want.

I think I need to drive one.
Judging by your comments, you'd ha e said the exact same thing about the E39 20 years ago.

tjlazer

875 posts

175 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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I've had my F10 for 4 months now and aside from the still incredible depreciation even as a third owner, it's an amazing machine. I owned the E39 as a daily and it was a hoot whereas my F10 is a less regular driver. The E39 was just a mad bd from the off with a milltek system and manual gearbox, it just begged for a spanking at all times. Trying the same with the F10 would see you banged up for some time, you have to pick your moments and basically pretend to be a normal upstanding citizen then go batsh#t crazy when the road conditions allow. I'm not sure if this is a good thing. However, it is one heck of a car and frankly ridiculous value right now. Just remember these cars have 600 bhp stock and drive like a 5 series until you pick MDM sport+ then...well enjoy yourself but not too much...I can only imagine the performance envelope is even higher with 4WD. To be honest I'd probably be better in an E90 m3 saloon so I could use the revs more often but the engine on these things is just amazing. Flawless gearbox, all day comfortable and 26 mpg+ on a cruise. Buy one. They have to be the best performance per £ car out there right now.