RE: Shed of the Week: Saab 9-3 Turbo

RE: Shed of the Week: Saab 9-3 Turbo

Friday 22nd June 2018

Shed of the Week: Saab 9-3 Turbo

There is no Shed finer than the one built to the exacting standards of the mythical Q...



Say you had two ways to go from London to Sydney. One would be via a succession of tedious commercial flights connected by long waits in airports. The other would be in a rocket-powered aircraft that might get you there in a tenth of the time - 'might' being the key word there. Which would you choose?

Your answer to that question would tell us a lot about your personality, and also give us a pretty good clue as to whether you would light the blue touchpaper on this week's Shed, an innocuous looking and fairly leggy Saab 9-3 Coupé.

In the last big Euro-war, the British Navy had a few ships that looked harmless but were anything but. They were called Q-ships. After the unpleasantness had come to an end, motorists in search of a cheeky thrill created the Q-car, an aftermarket-fuelled sub-genre of hopped-up motors that looked slow but weren't.


The Q-car was very popular in the 1970s and 1980s before mainstream manufacturers realised that they could build quick cars themselves. And that was the end of that, until ten minutes later when owners realised that they could make these new quick mainstreamers even quicker by the judicious application of money and parts.

It's getting harder and more expensive to create Q-cars these days, but Saabs have always been most amenable to the tuner's not-so-tender touch. The horsepower outputs of hotter models start off high - 200bhp HOT Saabs at Shed money are remarkably common - but they can be made very high indeed with surprisingly little trouble.

So, a 270hp Saab isn't that unusual - but a 270hp Saab for £1300 is. This car has been debadged and then showered with a smorgasbord of lipsmacking add-ons, listed below in the reassuringly understated ad.


A Stage 3 tune on one of these should, as the vendor thinks, take the power up to something approaching 270hp, with an increase in torque of probably a third to something over 400Nm, or nearly 300lb ft in old money. The midrange hit is hard.

It is without doubt a serious machine, but you'd never know it unless the bonnet was up. Apart from the small boost gauge perched inconspicuously on the centre console, it's pure repmobile right down to the cloth seats. Which makes it all the better when some upstart in a beancanned Audi tries his luck on the dual carriageway and you leave him choking on a black cloud of unburnt hydrocarbons, granulated rubber and hot clutchplate dust.

This particular car is a pre-2002 one, which means it's Cavalier- rather than Vectra-based. The handling won't be inspiring, then, but when you've got this much grunt on tap, you can ramp up the excitement simply by crushing the throttle and giggling like a girl at what happens next.


Why are high-power Saabs so cheap and so often shunned? There'll be plenty of folk on the forum under here who will be only too happy to explain the many ways in which a turbocharged Saab can bring misery to your life. Many of the ways will be to do with major mechanical items like the turbo, secondary air injection pump and, well, the whole engine if you don't take care of the oil. Sludging was a big problem in this era of performance Saabs. The clutch may struggle if it's put under regular pressure, and the gearchange might make you wonder if it came in an IKEA flatpack with a few essential screws missing.

Less major but still fairly annoying potential glitches include malfunctioning locks, squeaky suspension, seized rear brake calipers, rattly trim pieces and general electrical woes. The vendor mentions rust, but not that much. Some say that these Saabs were a bit better rustproofed than contemporary Vauxhalls. The MOT history throws up nothing too scary, and you've got all this year to get used to its little ways before the next test comes up in January.

So, do you feel lucky? Do you fancy taking on the idea of a 163,000-mile Saab with a 270bhp stage 3 powerplant? Look on the positive side: if it does go bang on a B-road one winter's eve, you'll have had plenty of fun up to that point, and you'll also have a nice little parts bin to dispose of on ebay.


The top Vikings, who as you know came from places like Sweden before they were called Sweden, always went out in a blaze of glory. When dead, they were set alight on floating funeral pyres and then cast off up the river to end up who knows where. You just had to pray it wouldn't be at the bottom of your garden, causing a stink.

Surely a similar end would be appropriate for this Viking warrior of a car? If names like Ragnor Lodbrok, Eric Bloodaxe or Björn Ironside appear anywhere in the stacks of service history invoices we're promised by the seller, you surely owe it to their glorious memories to buy it, max it out everywhere and then laugh heartily and slap yourself on the thigh if/when it expires, hopefully spectacularly. The Viking gods would have wanted it that way.

Here's the ad.

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HardMiles

Original Poster:

319 posts

86 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Yes she’s! 10/10. That’s what PH is all about!

Mogul

2,932 posts

223 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Skål!

Cambs_Stuart

2,868 posts

84 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Turbo Eco Coupe? Always had a soft spot for these.
But not sure I'd be brave enough to take on a tuned, 17 year old car with over 160 miles. Really like to hear from whoever does buy it...

Tin Hat

1,371 posts

209 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Jolly good shed, Saab always providing a dashboard with character


only1ian

688 posts

194 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Saab are a much missed marque for me. Loved that they played on their aviation hertiage. Comfy seats, aircraft inspired dash and a night panel button!

This shed clearly also has a reheat button and is a potential afterburner!

bozzy.

780 posts

78 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Good shed and a really enjoyable write up!

fathomfive

9,918 posts

190 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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What a great SOTW.


oilit

2,626 posts

178 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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^^^ THIS ^^

grumpy52

5,581 posts

166 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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SAAB , comfortable , stylish , mile munchers the do perform pretty well on the main roads, can be a bit wayward down the lanes . Relax and use the midrange grunt .
I have owned 6 SAABs over the years 900, 9000,95 and 3 x 93 ,
All with over 100k miles and only stranded once with a bolt shearing on a belt tensioner .
They are surprisingly roomy especially for us larger lumps .
Find a good one and it's likely you'll look for excuses to go stalking bean can driving chavs to upset .

jeremyh1

1,358 posts

127 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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I am a Saab person and have always had them
I think she'd may have paid too much attention to things that may go wrong
If you compare them to a modern car. there is very little to go wrong As a Diy mechanic they are very easy cars to work on. The problems have only ever been due to lack of maintainace
This Saab is a good reliable fun car for somebody

Kawasicki

13,083 posts

235 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Funny article

Seems to promote risk taking/aggressive driving though so I am ooot.

I wasn’t being serious, just then.

Lazadude

1,732 posts

161 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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My families always had Saab's of various sizes, Current family mobile is a 350hp 9-5 estate. When looked after they are super reliable.

Multiple specialists around, and simple things can bring lots of bang for your buck. Upgrading the spings/dampers with something like the Abbott setup can transform the handling (remove the standard crashyness and body roll, without ruining comfort), add some DS2500s and you have a really fun b-road car.

As said, things worth checking are oil pickup/sludge in the sump and general consumables on a car of the age/mileage. For motorway/a road cruising, its a much nicer place to be then the current concrete suspension german ilk.

Like Alfa's, everyone should try a hot Saab at some point.

Edited by Lazadude on Friday 22 June 07:38

James Junior

827 posts

157 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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I looked at the convertible equivalent some years ago and was shocked at the poor quality of the interior. Everything felt really flimsy, seats and plastics flexing and creaking on the test drive. It also torque steered terribly. That’s been my only experience of Saab, which is a shame as I like them conceptually.

rtz62

3,368 posts

155 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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As above
A friend and I bought a Turbo convertible to smoke for a while and sell on for a profit
The gearchange was like wagging your finger in The Albert Hall, the dash more plastic and fragile than Cher, and the roof would have been an embarrassment to a Poundland pram.
But.
There was something about it that made you want to like it, even love it, for what it was.
As Clarkson and May discussed, I’m not sure how the tenuous link with an aircraft cockpit was applied to the dash (yes, I’m aware the SAAB made fighter planes), and have never felt the need to have a dashboard that goes black except for the speedo unless there’s an issue.
But having owned several SAABs including a later 9-3 and a 9-5 HOT estate, I can see the attraction.
If I wanted a smoker, then I’d buy another SAAB, Just not this one.

Q Car

138 posts

190 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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What a fantastic thing! But then I would say that wouldn’t I....

Turbobanana

6,266 posts

201 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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rtz62 said:
As above
A friend and I bought a Turbo convertible to smoke for a while and sell on for a profit
The gearchange was like wagging your finger in The Albert Hall, the dash more plastic and fragile than Cher, and the roof would have been an embarrassment to a Poundland pram.
But.
There was something about it that made you want to like it, even love it, for what it was.
As Clarkson and May discussed, I’m not sure how the tenuous link with an aircraft cockpit was applied to the dash (yes, I’m aware the SAAB made fighter planes), and have never felt the need to have a dashboard that goes black except for the speedo unless there’s an issue.
But having owned several SAABs including a later 9-3 and a 9-5 HOT estate, I can see the attraction.
If I wanted a smoker, then I’d buy another SAAB, Just not this one.
As a long term owner of the previous generation of Saabs (900s and a 9000), I feel I should clear up this talk of aircraft cockpits.

The original 900, itself a development of the 99, WAS built along the line of aircraft design in that it had a swoopy, wraparound windscreen and (for the time) excellent ergonomics. The dash might not look like much, but when you try it you realise you can see everything, reach everything and it's all very logically thought out. My current convertible has a dash that is clearly visible with the roof off, in bright sunshine and even wearing Ray-Bans. The same cannot be said of my Ford S-Max: much of the dash is illegible.

Convertibles (900s of both generations and Cavalier-based 9-3s) suffer from scuttle shake, like most convertibles do. The solution is simple: don't drive it with the roof up - then you'll never notice smile

Build quality dropped off as the years passed. The original (non-GM) cars were carved from solid lumps of Swedish granite and seem practically immortal. The later, GM cars were victims of the accountants' calculators, much like Mercedes once the W124 was phased out. Mine had its MoT yesterday and the tester commented on how solid it was underneath (it passed, BTW, with advisories on handbrake efficiency and a slight oil leak). There is practically no parts commonality between old ones and new ones.

As others have said, this SOTW would probably be a good smoker for the money which may, or may not, make it to its next MoT. I wouldn't be afraid to buy it, if I needed another.

M666 EVO

1,124 posts

162 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Now that is a proper car. Love it. That dash!

BlueEyedBoy

1,918 posts

196 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Had one for over 10 years and could never bring myself to sell it. This year gave it to my brother in law as a present. Hoping one day to get it back in the flock. Best skip car ever and then on the way back would still make you smile. Very light too which made those ponies even more potent.

Usget

5,426 posts

211 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Turbobanana said:
. My current convertible has a dash that is clearly visible with the roof off, in bright sunshine and even wearing Ray-Bans. The same cannot be said of my Ford S-Max: much of the dash is illegible.
Cockpit ergonomics are a lost art. 90s Beemers were another good example - you knew were every switch was, and what it did, without looking, and all of the dials were easily legible even in sunlight. Try that with a shonky touchscreen.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Nice article but the whole Stages in tuning is ridiculous.