RE: Subaru Impreza P1: Spotted

RE: Subaru Impreza P1: Spotted

Wednesday 1st August 2018

Subaru Impreza P1: Spotted

Who doesn't love Prodrive's version of a two-door Impreza? Especially one driven from a time machine...



There’s a Subaru Impreza P1 listed on the PH Classifieds with just one owner in its logbook and 4,786 miles on the clock. Seriously.

For those not currently scrabbling to pick their jaws off the floor, let us quickly remind you why the two-door model still makes PH go all giddy. Not only does the P1 hail from an era of rallying that fans of a certain age will forever look back on with misty eyes, it can claim to have as close as any to offering punters a proper WRC car for the road. All it needed was harnesses and someone to your left shouting "flat over crest" and you’d essentially be ready for special stage one.


It could hardly be more of its time either. Lest we forget, this was an era when WRC was on terrestrial telly and Subaru and Mitsubishi and Richard Burns and Tommi Mäkinen were jousting for the championship. Few motorsport contests conducted in the last twenty years are as easy to conjure in the mind as the blue and yellow versus the red and white in the mud and snow and sand and gravel of faraway places.

Much of the appeal of rallying back then, aside from the entertainment of the championship fight, was the road cars it produced. Subaru and Mitsubishi’s rivalry extended far beyond the rally stage and into showrooms, with both manufacturers capitalising on the “win on Sunday, sell on Monday” motto. Other entrants like Toyota, Peugeot and Hyundai made far less noise about their rallying success, and while Ford’s Mk1 Focus RS road car was a great car, it had very little in common with Colin McCrae’s WRC machine.


So when we look back, it’s the specials produced by WRC’s leading Japanese exponents that really gets the nostalgia pumping. Those of one stripe will probably yearn for a Mitsubishi Evo VI Tommi Makkinen Edition (like this one), while those of the other ought to be marvelling at the sight of today’s Spotted.

Co-developed in Britain by Subaru’s WRC partner, Prodrive, the Impreza P1 was produced in just 1000 examples. It was powered by a 280hp 2.0-litre turbocharged boxer engine - producing that iconic sound - and could accelerate from 0-62mph in 4.6sec, meaning even 18 years on it could hold its own alongside comparable performance machinery. Burns is quoted in the car's brochure as saying the P1 is as "quick in a straight-line as a rally car" and the "turn is sharper"...


This car, chassis number 0065, is an early example. It’s completely unmolested and even comes with the original letter supplied by Subaru UK’s then marketing director Jon Nealon. Thrown in is a Subaru VHS tape that came with the car, two key fobs and two original sales brochures. Oh, and there’s a P1 umbrella that – for crying out loud – comes with the accessory brochure it was ordered from.

The car is a bloody time capsule. A £50,000 one.


SPECIFICATION - SUBARU IMPREZA P1
Engine
: 1,994cc, flat four
Transmission: five-speed manual, four-wheel drive
Power (hp): 280@ 6500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 253@4000rpm
MPG: 25.2
CO2: 265g/km
First registered: 2000
Recorded mileage: 4,786
Price new: £31,495
Yours for: £49,995

See the full ad here.

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blearyeyedboy

Original Poster:

6,320 posts

180 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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You know, it's a good time to stop to mourn the loss of the homologation special.

No more WRC-related cars, no more BTCC-related cars... Such a shame.

This is an extraordinary "frozen in time" example. The MK1 Impreza is going the same way as the MK2 Escort in terms of nostalgia, and in terms of prices...

Sometimes I look at these and I think the seller's being far too optimistic with their price, but not this one. I think this will reach it's asking price.

rare6499

661 posts

140 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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Sounds like pretty good value to me. There really can’t be many more round like that.


Prohibiting

1,741 posts

119 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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One word, wow.

I also think it'll meet the asking price by a collector.

On the other hand, I've seen £15-20k leggy P1s for sale and thought 'not a chance.'

Zed Ed

1,110 posts

184 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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Looked at trading in my turbo PPP for one of these at the time but couldn’t justify the additional cost.

It was a sweet test drive though.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

235 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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Does the automatic gearbox on this have steering wheel paddles?

Type R Tom

3,909 posts

150 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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Considering the price other rare or interesting cars go for £50k seems a bargain!

s m

23,262 posts

204 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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SidewaysSi said:
Does the automatic gearbox on this have steering wheel paddles?
How plasticky is the dash......?

fieldmau5

180 posts

169 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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Wasn't the P1 just a more expensive but lesser specced STi Version 6?

I don't see why anyone wouldn't just buy one of them and save a massive amount.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

197 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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Sorry, I always thought the P1 looked a bit crap. Missing the blistered arches of the 22B and pure lines of the original it just missed it completely on the looks front.

Ahbefive

11,657 posts

173 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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fieldmau5 said:
Wasn't the P1 just a more expensive but lesser specced STi Version 6?

I don't see why anyone wouldn't just buy one of them and save a massive amount.
No, it is the body of an STi type-R but without the dccd and with ABS. If you could find one of those with 4k miles it would also cost a hell of a lot of money.

CS Garth

2,860 posts

106 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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These and Evo VIs will be highly collectible in 10-20 years when they are fully recognised as the unrepeatable machines they are.


anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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fieldmau5 said:
Wasn't the P1 just a more expensive but lesser specced STi Version 6?

I don't see why anyone wouldn't just buy one of them and save a massive amount.
If it's purely for the car's performance I agree. However the P1 was a genuine limited edition run and was developed for the UK market e.g. the suspension damping is tuned for the harsher UK roads and therefore in terms of collectability it is probably second only to the 22B. The engines were also a little fragile due to the failure to provide uprated components when tuning them and therefore to find one on an original engine with no rebuild is quite rare.

DBRacingGod

610 posts

193 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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SidewaysSi said:
Does the automatic gearbox on this have steering wheel paddles?
I think that’s an error in the ad. I think it’s a manual. I’m not sure they made a P1 with flappy paddles.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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DBRacingGod said:
SidewaysSi said:
Does the automatic gearbox on this have steering wheel paddles?
I think that’s an error in the ad. I think it’s a manual. I’m not sure they made a P1 with flappy paddles.
Definitely a mistake it has 3 pedals on the photos tongue out

Escort3500

11,922 posts

146 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Sorry, I always thought the P1 looked a bit crap. Missing the blistered arches of the 22B and pure lines of the original it just missed it completely on the looks front.
Have to disagree. If you want crap, look at the bug-eye version, esp in wagon form. And don’t forget the last gen WRX; truly hideous looking.

The P1 is one of Subaru’s better efforts, though the 22B looks better.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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DBRacingGod said:
SidewaysSi said:
Does the automatic gearbox on this have steering wheel paddles?
I think that’s an error in the ad. I think it’s a manual. I’m not sure they made a P1 with flappy paddles.
All manuals

trails

3,755 posts

150 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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fieldmau5 said:
Wasn't the P1 just a more expensive but lesser specced STi Version 6?

I don't see why anyone wouldn't just buy one of them and save a massive amount.
No it's based on a four door v5 sti smile

trails

3,755 posts

150 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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cb1965 said:
The engines were also a little fragile due to the failure to provide uprated components when tuning them and therefore to find one on an original engine with no rebuild is quite rare.
No, they had forged pistons, the issue was Prodrive didn't map them for lower RON UK fuel, instead relying on brochetes (sp?) in fuel tank...or snake oil as they were latterly known smile

sti 5/6 engines will happily run 330 with a good map.

D.no

706 posts

213 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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To judge the P1 by any criteria other than how it drives is missing the point entirely.

I bought one new in 2000, kept it for 18 months, and sold it for £17k. No regrets - still the best car I've ever had for unpicking a bumpy, wet B-road. It had a thirst though: I drained a tank in less than 100 miles on the Autoroute coming back from LeMans in 2001 biggrin

Thanks for the memories.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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Absolutely love the P1 and 22B Type UK, I'd need both in my fantasy garage.

Question though, would you get this immaculate P1 remapped for UK fuel, it's only a matter of time before it goes pop otherwise.