RE: Renault Sport Spider: Spotted

RE: Renault Sport Spider: Spotted

Saturday 8th September 2018

Renault Sport Spider: Spotted

Don't forget, the A110 is not the first mid-engined sports car built in Dieppe with a Renault hot hatch engine...



Like all of us here at PH Towers, I like the new Alpine A110, but its £50k-plus price tag always seems a little steep to me. That is perhaps not saying much: most price tags seem a little steep to me, even those attached to a packet of crisps, but then I was born before the Boer war, and such money as I have is firmly tied up in my daughters' iPhone accounts.

Resorting to the past for something as entertaining as the A110, but at half the price, brings us face to face with the ruthless Renault Sport Spider. No wait, I mean the roofless Renault Sport Spider. This magnificently open confection was one of the first vehicles to issue from the Renault Sport portals, and was actually built in the Alpine factory in Dieppe.


The wacky Spider took its mid-mounted 150hp 2.0-litre 16-valve engine from the delicious Clio Williams and, with just 920kg of car to haul around, its performance was suitably lively - think 0 to 60mph in 6.5 seconds, and an eventual, and very windy, top speed of 131mph. It had a five-speed manual 'box driving the rear wheels, an industrial-strength, extruded aluminium chassis, a composite body - such as it was - with scissor doors and double wishbones all round. It was fast, nimble, grippy and fun.

Here of course you might be tempted to bring up the name Elise, a car so light by comparison it had to be tethered to the ground. I suspect Renault's reaction to the contemporary Elise at this time would have echoed that famous quote by Bing Crosby on Frank Sinatra. When someone said to him that singers like Sinatra only come along once in a lifetime he famously shot back: "Yeah, but why did it have to be in mine?"


Never mind. Whatever the virtues of the Elise, the Sport Spider doesn't lack for visual drama and a little tactile pleasure. With those enormous side air intakes, its looks are still head turning today, and its quick-flick (but unassisted, like the brakes) steering and immense grip are both still delightful.

Search the web for a Spider and you'll soon find one with legs. Once upon a time you could buy one for a lot less than the one we've found here, but considering only around 100 of them were imported to the UK you have to accept this is now a collector's car, and subject to the whims of the market. They cost £25,950 new in 1996, so perhaps this 15,000-mile example's asking price of £28,995 isn't so far-fetched. After all, it's still nearly half the price of an A110.


SPECIFICATION - RENAULT SPORT SPIDER

Engine: 1,998cc 4-cyl
Transmission: 5-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 150
Torque (lb ft): 136
MPG: N/K
CO2: N/K
First registered: 1998
Recorded mileage: 15,000
Price new: £25,950
Yours for: £28,995

See the original advert here.



Mark Pearson

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SydneyBridge

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8,648 posts

159 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Absolutely lovely
Only 100 rhd cars produced and all with windscreens..


MalcolmSmith

1,751 posts

76 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Is that all - surely an investment, a fairly unique machine.

Just dont damage it!

JulianHJ

8,747 posts

263 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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I drove past one of these on Monday (vicinity of Sussex/Surrey border). I've not seen one in years and I'd completely forgotten they existed. It still seemed weirdly proportioned compared to it's competition.

chickensoup

469 posts

256 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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this and the Caterham 21 were lovely cars killed at birth by the Elise

Turbobanana

6,306 posts

202 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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While working for an Essex-based car importer in the early noughties, I had to collect one of these from Harwich port.

Of course it had the default flat battery and, by the time I'd found that, started it and worked out I had to twist the gear lever for reverse, it was pouring with rain.

I got soaked on the drive home, but had a LOT of fun smile

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Much better looking than the A110...

Agent XXX

1,248 posts

107 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Took one of these on a test drive but ended up buying the GTR 33.

GREAT fun as in SUPERB fun............just a little lacking in practicality! Would have one though.


Turbobanana

6,306 posts

202 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Agent XXX said:
Took one of these on a test drive but ended up buying the GTR 33............
Would have one though.
Umm, well, obviously not...

Agent XXX

1,248 posts

107 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Turbobanana said:
Umm, well, obviously not...
I mean, if I was in the market for something fun and utterly ridiculous this would win over an elise or similar even now.

Trevor555

4,459 posts

85 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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MalcolmSmith said:
Is that all - surely an investment, a fairly unique machine.

Just dont damage it!
I sold mine 10 years ago because my Local Renault dealer told me parts were starting to get tricky.

£14,250 with 16,000 miles, should have hung onto it.





I'm not sure about the 0-60mph time of 6.5 seconds, it didn't feel that quick.

Never had I owned a car that got so much attention, petrol stations, people taking pics, people asking about it etc...

Classic moment was at Harpenden car show, two Police officers were discussing what it was.

The lady saying "it's a Renault", the chap saying "no way, Renault never made anything like this" as he's walking around the car.

He then says "what do you know about cars?" to the lady officer.

She replied "nothing, but it has a Renault badge on the front"

kambites

67,602 posts

222 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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I test drove one before buying the Elise. In isolation it was a lovely thing but it didn't really do anything better than the Lotus and did some things considerably worse. Definitely one for someone who values rarity.

Trevor555

4,459 posts

85 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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kambites said:
I test drove one before buying the Elise. In isolation it was a lovely thing but it didn't really do anything better than the Lotus and did some things considerably worse. Definitely one for someone who values rarity.
The very reason Renault didn't make them for very long.

The Elise was so much better.

The Renault had a welded chassis which was heavy (the car actually felt heavy when driving)

The Elise was so much lighter, had a roof, a heater (almost) and better brakes, much better brakes. The Spiders brakes were NOT servo assisted.

I do wish I'd have kept it though.







I'm sure I still have the Renault workshop manuals somewhere if anyone ever needs them.

Edited by Trevor555 on Saturday 8th September 12:17

Podie

46,630 posts

276 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Didn’t PHer Gemini own one once?

Vaguely recall reading about engine transplants from later Clio’s to make them quicker.

Tickle

4,934 posts

205 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Trevor555 said:
The very reason Renault didn't make them for very long.

The Elise was so much better.

The Renault had a welded chassis which was heavy (the car actually felt heavy when driving)

The Elise was so much lighter, had a roof, a heater (almost) and better brakes, much better brakes. The Spiders brakes were NOT servo assisted.

I do wish I'd have kept it though.







I'm sure I still have the Renault workshop manuals somewhere if anyone ever needs them.

Edited by Trevor555 on Saturday 8th September 12:17
I would say a S1 Elise heater is up to the job more than its roof laugh

Lack of servo on the brakes is a great thing in S1 and early S2s. Can't compare to that on the spider, as never got to drive one.

I remember sitting in one at the motor-show in Birmingham, there was also a prototype V6 clio there too. Both looked fantastic to an 18 year old me.

rallycross

12,824 posts

238 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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I’ve driven a couple of these (thanks to a pal of mine having owned 2) and they are good fun to drive but they do feel quite heavy and surprisingly not as communicative to the driver as an elise/vx220.

rallycross

12,824 posts

238 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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The price is quite accurate these rarely come up for sale but they are now changing hands at £25k plus and in Europe the price is a fair bit higher for lhd models.

As per above these do create a huge amount of attention when out in them, maybe because 99% people have no idea what it is?

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

157 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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In many ways, what the new Alpine should have been - lightweight, innovative and affordable.

Missed opportunity IMO.

MajorMantra

1,312 posts

113 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Helicopter123 said:
In many ways, what the new Alpine should have been - lightweight, innovative and affordable.

Missed opportunity IMO.
£25,950 in 1998 was equivalent to £43,411 in 2017 according to the BoE calculator. The new A110 Pure is supposed to start at £46,905. Hardly a huge difference...

bobo79

296 posts

150 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Trevor555 said:
The Elise was so much lighter, had a roof, a heater (almost) and better brakes, much better brakes. The Spiders brakes were NOT servo assisted.
Elise brakes weren't servo assisted until the Toyota engined cars - all of which turned up a few years after the Spider had ceased production.

Besides... in a light car non-servo brakes are great. Arguably however, the Spider is just getting to the weight that they may be beneficial - much like with the Toyota engined Elises...

Edited by bobo79 on Saturday 8th September 18:44


Edited by bobo79 on Saturday 8th September 18:44

BricktopST205

956 posts

135 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Rear pushrod suspension?