RE: Land Rover Discovery G4 Challenge: Spotted

RE: Land Rover Discovery G4 Challenge: Spotted

Wednesday 19th September 2018

Land Rover Discovery G4 Challenge: Spotted

This example of the last G4 Challenge Disco comes with a tent, a mountain bike and a kayak



If you’ve ever had the pleasure of being onboard a proper off-roader when it’s out in the wilderness you’ll know just how effective they can be. See our recent go in the new and very impressive Suzuki Jimny for evidence – a sorted 4x4 wearing muck-ready tyres will ascend slippery surfaces you couldn’t walk up and traverse steep valleys you couldn’t stand on.

Up until a decade ago, Land Rover used to really hammer this point home by hosting an adventure event, called the G4 Challenge (formerly the Camel Challenge before cigarette sponsorship was banned). Each event was about a month long and required competing teams to use Land Rover models to trawl their way across some of the world’s harshest landscapes. For the teams it was a chance to chase glory; for Land Rover it was great PR.


For the rest of us, aside from producing some pretty spectacular imagery (Google Camel Trophy and G4 Challenge to see for yourself), it also spawned some rather cool special edition models, each toughened up like the challenge cars and offered with loads of extra kit. The earliest example was the Defender Camel Trophy Edition, which came with a nose-mounted winch, bull bar and roof racks, as well as chunky off-road tyres and roof fog lights.

There were also special versions of the Freelander and Range Rover, but the model to get the most challenge variants was the Discovery. G4 versions of the first, second and third-generation cars were produced, with the latter also being the final challenge car to be sold to buyers before the annual event was cancelled in 2008 amid the global recession and resulting difficult financial circumstances for JLR (how different its fortunes were before the hot-selling Evoque arrived in 2011).

The Disco 3 G4 Challenge was, therefore, the end of an era. It was based on the TDV6, which was the most popular Disco variant in Europe and used the 325lb ft of torque producing 2.7-litre turbocharged diesel motor, mated to a six-speed automatic gearbox. Land Rover’s G4 models were always standard cars equipped with a few off-road additions, so the Disco 3 came in HSE form but got a winch, roof-mounted spot lights and bull bars, along with a snorkel intake and roof rack, complete with fog lights. Oh, and it was also painted orange.


Some cars, like today's Spotted, were specced by their original buyers with expedition-worthy optional extras like a G4 mountain bicycle, kayak and tent. These options were pricey (because G4) and to find a car on sale with its original optional extras like this is rare. Yet even this fact might not prepare you for the asking price attached to the two-owner, 50,000-mile-old Disco 3 G4 in question: £31,995. That’s about three-times the price of a regular Disco 3 TDV6 with similar mileage. Blimey.

Then again, if you’re the sort of hardy person who loves the idea of venturing far from society in your explorer-spec off-roader, perhaps this is your idea of motoring perfection. It's a swiss army knife on wheels. A mechanical Bear Grylls. Certainly most of us can appreciate the sheer awesomeness of a Disco dressed in gear to help it claw through jungles, along deserts and over mountains without complaint. That this one happens to be linked to one of the toughest motoring events in the history of the car should help to seal the deal for one deep-pocketed adventurer.



SPECIFICATIONS - LAND ROVER DISCOVERY 3 G4 CHALLENGE
Engine:
2,720cc, V6, turbo
Transmission: six-speed automatic
Power (hp): 195
Torque (lb ft): 325
CO2: 249g/km
MPG: 30mpg
First registered: 2008
Recorded mileage: 25,000
Price new: N/A
Yours for: £31,995

See the original advert here.

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livinginasia

Original Poster:

850 posts

111 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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What a fabulous vehicle but my word that price is “punchy”. Seems way overpriced to me, even with the extras.

48k

13,145 posts

149 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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The G4 challenge was not an annual event, it was every three years and the third one (which the 08 cars like this one were built for) got cancelled before the start so none of the 08 G4 vehicles have actually done the challenge although a couple were used for pre event recces.

The G4 cars always attract a premium because of the provenance, even the 08 cars which didn't do the challenge. They are all standard vehicles painted tangiers orange (aside from a couple of silver ones) with the options book thrown at them. It's rare to find an 08 G4 Disco with the red crescent stickers on the back doors though this one then has other stickers missing from the rear window. No two cars appear to be the same or have the same kit with them.

If you're going to take the plunge get it thoroughly checked by a specialist particularly underneath, have the winch all the way out and make sure it works, make sure everything else works. Get a third party warranty and make sure your AA cover is up to date. Unfortunately the TDV6 in the 08 year Disco has a reputation for being a bit suspect and several owners have had major engine issues including me - bottom end bearing failure a few weeks out of warranty on a 50K mile engine was an expensive repair. Lots of other niggles but a fantastic car when it's working and you never lose it in car parks laugh



Ryan-nunm9

207 posts

72 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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I for one am glad they fetch a premium! Bought a grey defender 8 years ago, a couple of jet washes later the grey started to peel off.

It’s now being hit with sand paper and looks like this (all be it a couple weeks ago now.





I’ve already got the correct ‘extras’ - winch, roof rack, lights etc so some new doors, rubber seals all round to be ordered, a few fiddly bits like hinges to be sand blasted and then it’s time to (try) put it back together.

legless

1,695 posts

141 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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48k said:
The G4 challenge was not an annual event, it was every three years and the third one (which the 08 cars like this one were built for) got cancelled before the start so none of the 08 G4 vehicles have actually done the challenge although a couple were used for pre event recces.
I've got experience of this particular car. I was part of the repatriation team for the fleet that had been used for the recces.

There were 8 cars in total that were used, and I drove this one back in convoy from Essaouira to Gaydon via the Tangier-Tarifa and Bilbao-Portsmouth ferries.

ChemicalChaos

10,404 posts

161 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Great spotted article, however as a serious Land Rover anorak I feel I need to offer a couple of corrections!

The G4 was not merely a rebrand of the Camel Trophy.
The Camel was always simply about the toughest off road driving, ploughing through the most impossible jungle mud and river crossings. It was a test of the most extreme driving skill and teamwork of the contestants.





By contrast, the G4 was a socially conscious adventure challenge for the new millennium, with a focus on promoting conservation and community outreach as part of the travelling circus. As well as (much more tame) off road driving, the contestants also faced challenges in navigation, mountain biking and kayaking.

Whereas G4 was conceived by Land Rover, Camel was originally a 3rd party event, on its first running in 1980 it in fact used Jeeps. Every subsequent event used Land Rovers - initially the Series 3 and Range Rover Classic, the Defender actually came along later - and over time was taken over to become a Land Rover company event.

The G4 first ran in 2003, by which time Discovery 2 was almost at the end of its production. D1, replaced in 1998, was only ever seen in the Camel.

The vehicle featured was most certainly not specced with its accessories by the first owner. After each G4 the vehicles were totally stripped of accessories, stickers and off road parts - they were sold on by Land Rover as a simple, plain orange vehicle. It is only due to the tireless dedication of the G4 enthusiasts and owners club that they have been restored to event spec with replica stickers, painstakingly tracked down tents/bikes/kayaks, and secondhand or equivalent replica off road gadgets and under armour

48k

13,145 posts

149 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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ChemicalChaos said:
The vehicle featured was most certainly not specced with its accessories by the first owner. After each G4 the vehicles were totally stripped of accessories, stickers and off road parts - they were sold on by Land Rover as a simple, plain orange vehicle
Not quite true, mine (BD08VSE) came with all the options and stickers on it, as did a lot of the 08 cars but some had the Red Cross/Red Crescent sticker removed as I believe there was an issue around selling the vehicles on with that particular sticker on it. How true that is I don't know but that's what I recall from the time although mine was one of the ones that had it left on. But you're right about the owners club being a good source of information and stickers - you can see the car in this advert has a G4 owners club sticker along the side of the bonnet where the G4 challenge sticker would be :



only1ian

689 posts

195 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Ryan-nunm9 said:
I for one am glad they fetch a premium! Bought a grey defender 8 years ago, a couple of jet washes later the grey started to peel off.

It’s now being hit with sand paper and looks like this (all be it a couple weeks ago now.





I’ve already got the correct ‘extras’ - winch, roof rack, lights etc so some new doors, rubber seals all round to be ordered, a few fiddly bits like hinges to be sand blasted and then it’s time to (try) put it back together.
You have a Pistonheads duty to return that to G4 spec and bright orange! Would make for a great build thread

Ryan-nunm9

207 posts

72 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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That’s EXACTLY whats happening mate, well, bar the tread as I have one going in the G4 Owners Club forum. Maybe I’ll do a retrospective one on here once complete as it’s been going on for some time, I took it off the road in March as I’m doing it all myself with the exception of the Paint and winch refurb.

This was taken about 3 years ago, I since then had the lights and snorkel fitted so was pretty much G4 spec but grey and without decals and winch -


  • Check your old LR magazines and you’ll see mine (BD52CTV - but in orange) in all the double page Mantec adds.
Jobs done (off the top of my head;
Rack stripped and decorated properly
Winch refurbished mechanically (and outer casing re coated being done as we speak)
New shocks and springs
Grey spray on load liner pealed off
New wheels purchased
Sanding - so much sanding!!!

Saturday the underside, engine bay and everywhere else will be steam cleaned and then

More sanding!!

Paint hopefully in the next 4-6 weeks depending on when my mate (who paints for a living) can fit it all in.

Cfnteabag

1,195 posts

197 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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ChemicalChaos said:
Great spotted article, however as a serious Land Rover anorak I feel I need to offer a couple of corrections!
I'm glad someone did this as my pedant antenna was twitching!

There was also a further Camel Trophy after Land Rover pulled their support after 1998 event using the Honda CR-V.

Land Rover gave their reason for ending support of the Camel Trophy as it had started to move away from the vehicles and off roaring into a lifestyle event, then they introduced the G4 which was almost completely a lifestyle event!

azure elise

8 posts

211 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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They certainly were not all stripped of their extras, my dealership were purchasing them with stickers, roof racks, winches etc. still attached. Almost the entire Discovery 3 accessory catalogue had been thrown at them.
The more bits they came with, the higher the price! Some of them even turned up with sand in them from the beach in South America, mud & crud everywhere.
The kayaks and bicycles were extremely rare, the only thing that had to be removed and replaced was the winch rope, as it was the only "safety" item that could be easily damaged.

The 2009 was the year that never. The financial crisis set the marketing department budget tumbling, the vehicles had been assembled and ended up stored in a warehouse to be sold off once the market picked up.

More details on the G4 vehicles here https://www.g4ownersclub.com/about-the-vehicles-20...

eybic

9,212 posts

175 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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I saw one of these in Henley yesterday, it had about 5 differently coloured Jerry cans on the roof confused

superlightr

12,856 posts

264 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Used to own a 110 G4 SE (not an event vehicle) and went on the London to Brighton landlrover run out. Great fun.

Was the longest Ive ever owned any car - 4 years . Best friend bought it on condition I have first refusal when he sells.



Edited by superlightr on Wednesday 19th September 15:50

superlightr

12,856 posts

264 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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got a tent too

unpc

2,837 posts

214 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Seems crazy that JLR haven't resurrected this for the pulicity. I know their vehicles have all gone a bit "lifestyle" but the latest Disco is supposedly pretty capable. When I was last in SVO they had a D5 done up in mountain rescue guise and it looked the part.


This one in fact.


camel_landy

4,924 posts

184 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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ChemicalChaos said:
Great spotted article, however as a serious Land Rover anorak I feel I need to offer a couple of corrections...

...The vehicle featured was most certainly not specced with its accessories by the first owner. After each G4 the vehicles were totally stripped of accessories, stickers and off road parts - they were sold on by Land Rover as a simple, plain orange vehicle. It is only due to the tireless dedication of the G4 enthusiasts and owners club that they have been restored to event spec with replica stickers, painstakingly tracked down tents/bikes/kayaks, and secondhand or equivalent replica off road gadgets and under armour
Close... That was the situation with the 2003 cars.

This was one of the vehicles prepared for the 2009 mongolian event, which was abruptly cancelled as we descended into recession. The decision to pull the plug came after the vehicles had been prepared, so Land Rover sold them all on, still fitted with all the toys, stickers, etc...

Most of the cars had never been used, let alone used off-road, though some of them were used for the Pre-Scout, selections at Eastnor and some promotional duties. IIRC - This particular car was used for some promotional work and I'd have to look back through my photos to see if was used for the Selections.

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mariscalcus

53 posts

146 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Presumably the kayak and mountain bike were to get you home when the G4 got stuck on a gravel pathway in deepest Dorset.

Ahbefive

11,657 posts

173 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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So does it have 50k miles as per the ad or 25k miles as per the summary?

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

101 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Ahbefive said:
So does it have 50k miles as per the ad or 25k miles as per the summary?
Probably both... 75k miles?

48k

13,145 posts

149 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Shakermaker said:
Ahbefive said:
So does it have 50k miles as per the ad or 25k miles as per the summary?
Probably both... 75k miles?
50K miles on a TDV6 in an 08 disco plus a BAS remap = I don't have a barge pole long enough. BTDT. Run away! Run away!

DomRoePhotography

234 posts

124 months

Friday 21st September 2018
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unpc said:
Seems crazy that JLR haven't resurrected this for the pulicity. I know their vehicles have all gone a bit "lifestyle" but the latest Disco is supposedly pretty capable. When I was last in SVO they had a D5 done up in mountain rescue guise and it looked the part.


This one in fact.

My local Mountain Rescue had a Disco 5 on loan from MREW whilst it went around all the UK teams, something to do with a JLR/MREW link up to try keep teams in JLR vehicles, rather than the ever-increasingly popular pickup truck. They seemed to rate it highly, especially the fact that it could outperform their 2013 110 utility wagon both on the road and off it!