RE: UK firm develops new 675kg track car

RE: UK firm develops new 675kg track car

Monday 5th November 2018

Revolution Race Cars' 750kg track machine: Update!

Revolution Racecars is led by a co-founder of Radical and its first car will use a 355hp V6


UPDATE - 05.11.18


Newly formed British firm Revolution Race Cars has revealed its first lightweight track machine, which is set to go on sale with a sub-£100,000 price tag and is designed to be cheap to run.

The new company, established by Radical Sportscars co-founder Phil Abbott, has also announced that its car weighs 750kg, 75kg more than the previous estimated figure, although this slight weight gain is countered by a higher claimed power output for the car's 3.7-litre V6 engine.


The Ford-sourced dry sump motor, chosen for its strong grunt and reliability, is now said to be good for 350bhp - or 355hp - which beats an earlier estimate of 305hp and ensures power-to-weight is rated at a rather substantial 473hp per tonne. That's 128hp per tonne better than a Zenos E10 S, in case you're wondering.

Although the Revolution two-seater is being touted as a racing car and is set to become eligable for certain championships from next year, it's also available as a track car. Engineers are said to be developing the model so it's enjoyable to drive for novices and professionals alike.



ORIGINAL STORY - 20.09.18


We’re rather good at making lightweight cars in Britain. Lotus made its name on producing featherweight sports cars, Caterham continued the formula with the Seven and more recently McLaren has set new standards in mass producing carbon tubs. We could go on and on. But better to introduce you to the latest member of the club: a 675kg two-seat track car revealed by the newly formed Revolution Racecars.

The UK brand, headed by Radical Sportscars co-founder Phil Abbott, told Autocar that the track-only model will be “conceived, designed, developed and built by racers for racers”, confirming intentions for it to one day take to competition. It will mix Le Mans Prototype technology with reliable running gear and looks set to cost less than £100,000.

Although the brainchild of a UK team, the new car will use a carbon fibre structure made in Germany, using the latest carbon infusion process for minimum weight and maximum structural rigidity. The claimed weight of the car (675kg, remember) would make it about 25kg lighter than a Zenos E10 S and 115kg heavier than a Caterham 360R.


Power is to come from a Ford-sourced 3.7-litre V6 with a dry sump. It’s said to be good for 305hp and will offer “proven reliability”; Revolution said the motor can do more than 6000 miles, or 100 hours of racing, before it’ll need to be rebuilt, which is pretty good going for a motorsport unit. Its drive will be sent through a six-speed sequential transmission supplied by motorsport specialist 3MO, which makes those shotgun fire-mimicking gearboxes for cars in the World Rally Championship.

This being a racer, the interio…no, cockpit - will be pared-back and feature all controls on the steering wheel. There will, however, be room for two, with Revolution telling Autocar that it’ll have class-leading elbow space, apparently.

So far all we have to illustrate what’s to come is a sketch, but it does clearly show how slender the panels and bodywork of this car will be. Its design is being steered by Simon Cox, a Brit who’s worked for Infiniti and GM. The car will be revealed online in a month before making a public debut at the MotorsportDays Live event at Silverstone in November.


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sidesauce

Original Poster:

2,476 posts

218 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Interesting, given the names involved. I have no idea how they'll make money but possibly the Radical connection gives this project some cachet?

ads_green

838 posts

232 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Got to be a typo...
3.7 v6 turbo and only 305 hp??

Paracetamol

4,225 posts

244 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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...another day another track or hypercar..

DuncGTS

101 posts

106 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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3.7-litre V6 with a dry sump. It’s said to be good for 305hp and will offer “proven reliability”; Revolution said the motor can do more than 6000 miles, or 100 hours of racing, before it’ll need to be rebuilt, which is pretty good going for a motorsport unit.

That's not right is it ? Just 305 bhp

Bodo

12,375 posts

266 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Wow. this form is older than ten years now - but far from obsolete.

HeMightBeBanned

617 posts

178 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Coming to an Administrator near you, soon laugh

Turbobanana

6,268 posts

201 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Attention-grabbing headline said:
UK firm develops new 675kg track car
Real life said:
So far all we have to illustrate what’s to come is a sketch...
Riiiiight...

MKnight702

3,109 posts

214 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Ahm oot

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Ford 3.7 v6 - so that's the "Cyclone" that used to be in the Mustang, and is now in the Lincoln Continental. Factory output - 305bhp... without a turbo. So is that what it is? 450bhp/ton is hardly to be sniffed at, after all. Or are they adding a turbo for a bit more oomph? But that wouldn't give the "proven reliability", would it?

The Autocar article (linked within this piece) doesn't mention a turbo, either (and just quotes a nice round 300bhp).
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/revolu...

Think they might need to rethink their branding, too.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Motor-Vehi...
https://www.facebook.com/RevolutionRaceCars/

wowman

66 posts

153 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Bodo said:


Wow. this form is older than ten years now - but far from obsolete.
Love that one, thanks for sharing!

And: I agree, btw.

designndrive62

743 posts

157 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Has a whiff of the Caparo T1 to me...

Brad R26

10 posts

93 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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3.7 V6 turbo with 305bhp?

Maybe its diesel bowtie

laugh

Frimley111R

15,662 posts

234 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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I can see why they'd want to do this but from a business viewpoint it makes zero sense!

thiscocks

3,128 posts

195 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Ford 3.7 v6 - so that's the "Cyclone" that used to be in the Mustang, and is now in the Lincoln Continental. Factory output - 305bhp... without a turbo. So is that what it is? 450bhp/ton is hardly to be sniffed at, after all. Or are they adding a turbo for a bit more oomph? But that wouldn't give the "proven reliability", would it?

The Autocar article (linked within this piece) doesn't mention a turbo, either (and just quotes a nice round 300bhp).
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/revolu...

Think they might need to rethink their branding, too.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Motor-Vehi...
https://www.facebook.com/RevolutionRaceCars/
Hopefully it's the n/a then...

Bodo

12,375 posts

266 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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wowman said:
Bodo][pic said:


Wow. this form is older than ten years now - but far from obsolete.
Love that one, thanks for sharing!

And: I agree, btw.
credit goes to sniffpetrol.com for the press release form - published as far back as 2006.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Nanook said:
Someone got confused between the 3.7NA and the 3.5TT version of that engine perhaps?
Could be. The off-the-shelf turbo is 375-450bhp, depending on which truck it's out of, or 675bhp in the GT...

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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Nanook said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Could be. The off-the-shelf turbo is 375-450bhp, depending on which truck it's out of, or 675bhp in the GT...
I love the idea that you can get it in a Transit van, although I think it only makes 320bhp?
https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2014/06/04/all-new-ford-transit.html

Not sure an official combined 16mpg would go down well with Barry the Builder, though, even if they are only little gallons - so a whole 19mpg in real money.

neil1jnr

1,462 posts

155 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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DuncGTS said:
3.7-litre V6 with a dry sump. It’s said to be good for 305hp and will offer “proven reliability”; Revolution said the motor can do more than 6000 miles, or 100 hours of racing, before it’ll need to be rebuilt, which is pretty good going for a motorsport unit.

That's not right is it ? Just 305 bhp
I think it's more strange that a 305bhp 3.7 litre engine would need rebuilt after 6000 miles? Surely an engine under stressed like that would manage 100K miles, even with a hard life? I must be missing something here? confused

sideways sid

1,371 posts

215 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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So, ex-Radical guy launches car similar to a Radical, with an engine similar to a Radical, to compete with a Radical.

andburg

7,289 posts

169 months

Thursday 20th September 2018
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new track only car with the engine a 7+ year old mustang V6?

cos every lightweigh track car needs a low revving high capacity engine!