Chinese influencing Hollywood movies

[HannsG]

Just watched 'The Meg....'

I get it, ste films. But for me they were enjoyable stop the brain type movies.

However, the Chinese influence. And advertising was so Fukin over bearing.

I honestly believe its just awkward and ruins the movies. Is it because they want to harness the populace in China or are the Chinese literally throwing all the money in the world at Hollywood?

Either way it just seems so forced

[lonny]

Yep, think China is 2nd biggest market now for movies so we’ll see more aimed directly to appeal to them.

[Moonhawk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmyBOyChsoI

[belleair302]

If producers need the cash then they will look to influence the Chinese market. Western films getting Chinese releases is small in volume because of the Chinese protecting their industry. I believe India is the second biggest producer of film and may soon become number 1. Hollywood however will survive without Chinese Money but may well 'pander' to a growing Asian market as Americans and Europeans change their film tastes and how the media is received.

[P-Jay]

Yep, 'Hollywood' needs to do well in China.

I haven't had the pleasure of 'The Meg' yet, how it is suited to Chinese audiences? The usual tact is to have as little dialogue as possible to cut down on subtitles.

Still, could be worse...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esXqdI7miWA&t=...

[ukaskew]

HannsG said:

Just watched 'The Meg....'

I get it, ste films. But for me they were enjoyable stop the brain type movies.

However, the Chinese influence. And advertising was so Fukin over bearing.

I honestly believe its just awkward and ruins the movies. Is it because they want to harness the populace in China or are the Chinese literally throwing all the money in the world at Hollywood?

Either way it just seems so forced

The Meg was largely financed by the Chinese, as are many 'Hollywood' films these days.

I don't really get why it's an issue though, the movie was set in Asia so it doesn't exactly seem out of place to have a significant asian cast. It's not really any different to Working Title making a film in the UK and employing a largely British cast, for example.

Most movies make more money internationally than they do in the US now, so the internationalization of films (which is no bad thing, in my opinion) is only going to increase. Star Wars is one of the few major franchises left that still makes the bulk of its profit from the US. Avengers Infinity War took nearly 70% of its box office internationally, Fast and Furious is now over 80%.

Edited by ukaskew on Friday 28th September 16:54

[AshVX220]

P-Jay said:

Yep, 'Hollywood' needs to do well in China.

I haven't had the pleasure of 'The Meg' yet, how it is suited to Chinese audiences? The usual tact is to have as little dialogue as possible to cut down on subtitles.

Still, could be worse...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esXqdI7miWA&t=...

^^^^ Oh my God, what a turd!! There's a lot of "artistic license" and really st Hollywood Gung-Ho in that!

[bloomen]

ukaskew said:

Most movies make more money internationally than they do in the US now, so the internationalization of films (which is no bad thing, in my opinion) is only going to increase. Star Wars is one of the few major franchises left that still makes the bulk of its profit from the US. Avengers Infinity War took nearly 70% of its box office internationally, Fast and Furious is now over 80%.

I think any audience, regardless of where they are, would prefer something that isn't weirdly stunted and diluted by winking at one foreign audience. I've yet to see an example of it that wasn't jarring. It simply doesn't work.

For it to work it requires stories that benefit from it, not stories that are bent to accommodate it. Stuff like 2012 worked in its own little way simply because it was a global story and you expect it.

[Shakermaker]

bloomen said:

I think any audience, regardless of where they are, would prefer something that isn't weirdly stunted and diluted by winking at one foreign audience. I've yet to see an example of it that wasn't jarring. It simply doesn't work.

For it to work it requires stories that benefit from it, not stories that are bent to accommodate it. Stuff like 2012 worked in its own little way simply because it was a global story and you expect it.

I think the global cinema trends would suggest otherwise.

Visiting the cinema in other places, particularly in Asia, is not like going to the cinema in the UK. people talk, a lot, because they can read the subtitles so don't need to listen to it, and the subtitles probably leave out a lot of the subtleties/jokes that are overt to us, probably completely ignored in subtitled versions. Or for all we know they subtitles could be saying that the "hero" is the person of local origin!

For a non-cinema example, I was reading how the man who was the professional voice of Homer Simpson for Spanish speaking countries died a few years ago, and they had to bring in a new actor. However, the old actor had a good enough understanding of English to make all the jokes work in Spanish, whereas apparently the new guy just takes it all literally, and nobody understands it anymore in the same way.

[PhilboSE]

AshVX220 said:

P-Jay said:

Yep, 'Hollywood' needs to do well in China.

I haven't had the pleasure of 'The Meg' yet, how it is suited to Chinese audiences? The usual tact is to have as little dialogue as possible to cut down on subtitles.

Still, could be worse...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esXqdI7miWA&t=...

^^^^ Oh my God, what a turd!! There's a lot of "artistic license" and really st Hollywood Gung-Ho in that!

Good grief. Has to be a candidate for the worst CGI of recent times. I've seen better video games.

[honest_delboy]

Shakermaker said:

I was reading how the man who was the professional voice of Homer Simpson for Spanish speaking countries died a few years ago, and they had to bring in a new actor. However, the old actor had a good enough understanding of English to make all the jokes work in Spanish, whereas apparently the new guy just takes it all literally, and nobody understands it anymore in the same way.

Ay carumba !

[Halb]

Modern nobrain (and ph sure loves nobrain) films sometimes get saved in China, and some get made into all time top ten in china


Furious 7, made 350 in the us and 390 in china.
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&am...

Fate and the furious made 226 in us and 390 in china

[FourWheelDrift]

They are still making bad movies on their own though with dodgy CGI - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJkz1pEBqf8