RE: What is a hybrid vehicle? PH Explains

RE: What is a hybrid vehicle? PH Explains

Saturday 29th September 2018

What is a hybrid vehicle? PH Explains

Get the low-down on the basics of hybrid vehicle technology and the powertrain configurations available



A hybrid vehicle is one that has at least two sources of power which can function independently or together in an effort to boost efficiency.

Typically, a hybrid will use both a petrol engine and an electric motor; doing so allows for reductions in emissions and fuel consumption and can also grant silent, zero local-emissions pure electric motoring for short periods.

Hybrids need not necessarily rely on petrol engines as their alternative source of power, though; diesel engines, compressed air and fuel cells can also be used to provide the required motive power.

The systems available have different degrees of hybridisation, though; they range from ‘micro hybrids’ that offer a simple stop-start function through to ‘full hybrids’ that offer significant emissions and economy benefits.

There are also several different configurations of hybrid powertrain, which have varying degrees of complexity and capability.

The degrees of hybridisation


Micro hybrid: A vehicle only requires a start/stop system to be classified as a ‘micro hybrid’, despite the fact the integrated starter/alternator system often used provides no drive assistance or pure EV mode. Some micro hybrids offer regenerative braking, though, which can serve to improve efficiency.

Mild hybrid: In this configuration, a more powerful integrated starter/alternator system is usually fitted. This can sometimes propel the vehicle at low speeds - the engine otherwise runs most of the time - or, more commonly, be used to assist the vehicle’s engine when accelerating. These set-ups also feature regenerative braking, in order to help improve efficiency. A Honda Insight, for example, would be classified as a mild hybrid.

Mercedes-AMG CLS 53: Driven

Full hybrid: A full hybrid, sometimes called a ‘strong hybrid’, is one that can be driven on the electric motor alone - or solely on its combustion engine, or a combination of the both. When its batteries are depleted, the engine will be brought online to either supply power or drive in order to keep the vehicle going. The Prius is a classic example of a full hybrid.

Plug-in hybrid: This configuration denotes a full hybrid which can also be charged from the mains. Because its batteries will be charged before setting off, it can subsequently operate in pure EV mode more often and won’t need to call on the engine as frequently for additional charge - reducing its fuel consumption and emissions further.

Different types of hybrid powertrain


Series hybrid: This increasingly common form of hybrid set-up features an electric motor and an internal combustion engine that drives a generator. Only the electric motor drives the wheels; when the battery is depleted, or more power is required, the engine fires up to generate the required power to propel the car. This set-up is often referred to as a ‘range extender’ or ‘extended range’ configuration. Examples of series hybrids include the range-extending version of the BMW i3.

Parallel hybrid: These feature both an internal combustion engine and an electric motor, both of which can send drive through the vehicle’s transmission; in many cases, the electric motor is integrated into the transmission. The engine is often the primary source of power but the electric motor can often be used alone or to assist acceleration. There are also numerous ‘mild’ parallel set-ups, including those that use an integrated starter/generator to provide regenerative braking and a limited amount of assistance.

‘Through the road’ parallel hybrid: This configuration is used to define a car that has two drivetrains. The internal combustion engine will drive one axle, while the electric motor will drive the other - and they can work together or in isolation. This set-up can be seen in cars such as the Peugeot 508 RXH and BMW i8.

BMW i8 Roadster: Driven

Series-parallel hybrid: These are, as the name suggests, a combination of the series and parallel configuration. This set-up, sometimes called ‘combined hybrid’, consists of both an internal combustion engine and an electric motor - but with mechanical and electrical connections between both. This means that both the electric motor and engine can drive the wheels, or the engine can be disconnected and used solely to charge the batteries. Examples of such systems include the ‘Hybrid Synergy Drive’ found in the Toyota Prius. In some cases, this configuration is called a ‘power-split’ hybrid.

Plug-in hybrid: This term indicates that the hybrid in question can run entirely on battery power alone and that, when required, it can be plugged in to charge. The range-extending petrol-electric Vauxhall Ampera is a good example of a plug-in configuration; it can run in pure electric mode and then plugged in to charge - meaning that, when the owner sets off the next day, it should have a substantial amount of pure electric range at its disposal. This cuts down the need to run the engine.

A brief history of hybrid vehicles


Hybrid vehicles were introduced not long after the invention of the automobile itself; the petrol-electric ‘La Cuadra’ range extender, for example, was introduced in 1899. Electric cars were popular because they were easy to operate, quieter and cleaner - but range restrictions and a lack of charging infrastructure made them unsuitable for many buyers.

Consequently, manufacturers began introducing hybrids that offered the best of both worlds. For short trips, you could rely on unobtrusive and refined electric power. If you wanted to travel further afield, or got stuck with flat batteries, you could then fire up the petrol engine to generate the required power to charge the batteries and drive the motors; this tackled any range concerns while simultaneously freeing buyers from relying solely on complex, unreliable and noisy early petrol engines.

More advanced hybrids followed, including the hub motor-equipped Lohner-Porsche ‘Semper Vivus’ of 1900 and the Woods Motor Vehicle Company ‘Dual Power’ of 1911 - a car which featured regenerative braking.

By this point, though, internal combustion engines were advancing at a vast rate of knots. They were getting quieter and more reliable and, as the road network improved, people were travelling further afield. This quelled enthusiasm for costly, heavy electric and hybrid vehicles and, as a result, internal combustion quickly became the dominant motive power.

As pollution in urban areas increased, manufacturers would later begin investigating hybrid power as a means to tackle rising environmental concerns. Cost and complexity, however, kept the idea at bay for many years. Ultimately, it took until 1997 for the first production hybrid to arrive - in the form of the petrol-electric Toyota Prius; Audi’s diesel-electric Duo also arrived in 1997.

Nowadays, a plethora of models benefit from hybrid technology. As emissions regulations continue to tighten, and customer preferences continue to shift towards more efficient vehicles, expect hybrid cars to become increasingly prevalent.

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PSB1967

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282 posts

157 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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Is Hybrid tech growing in popularity or is it being forced upon us?

Bear in mind the biggest incentive until recently for lugging around 100Kg + of battery was the nil VED charge. The government is panicking about not meeting various emissions target time scales and thus has demonised the diesel. The manufacturers know petrol cannot match diesel for economy so are adding 'emission free' electric to their models. Apparently my Sister-in-law's new hybrid Rav4 will do 53 mpg despite being a 2.5 litre petrol auto!
Battery development is being used to make bicycles go faster for longer. This is the true hybrid benefit for all of us that commute the average 20 mile per day. This is where the potential for cutting our emission targets lie. But it would be zero emission transport so no revenue to pay for 'duck house' maintenance.

tr3a

494 posts

228 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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PSB1967 said:
Apparently my Sister-in-law's new hybrid Rav4 will do 53 mpg despite being a 2.5 litre petrol auto!
It's not an automatic, it has no gears to shift at all - not even a reverse gear. And it really can be that economical, because of its Atkinson cycle engine and energy regeneration.

All this thanks to efficient electric motors and a battery. What makes is complicated is the dinosaur juice engine. That will only be economical for as long as batteries haven't fallen well below $100/kWh in cost. Which will happen within a few years and then simple, fully electric cars will become mainstream.

It will probably happen quicker than you can say the immortal last words "expect hybrid cars to become increasingly prevalent".

kambites

67,599 posts

222 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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PSB1967 said:
Is Hybrid tech growing in popularity or is it being forced upon us?
Both. smile

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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PSB1967 said:
Is Hybrid tech growing in popularity or is it being forced upon us?

it's really a stopgap solution for most passenger cars.

There are really only two reasons for a hybrid, as opposed to a full EV:

1) EVs currently have limited range because batteries are not yet cheap enough

2) Existing vehicles designed around ICE components don't make very good EVs in terms of packaging with strange shaped internal "spaces"


The first issue, the cost of batteries is currently solving itself, as the price per kWh continues to tumble, and improvements in cell and module packaging allow more capacity in the same physical space. (ie the new model i3, just announced with a battery twice the capacity of the original in exactly the same physical space). Currently there is a bottle neck in the battery supply chain, but huge, no, MASSIVE investment in battery production facilities is happening and fast, and when it catches up and battery production goes full "volume" then the cost of EV batteries is going to fall again! And when an EV becomes cheaper to build than a Hybrid, then the days of the hybrid for most people are over. Note, that is not taking into account any improvements in cell energy density, which could happen, with a huge amount of money being spent on various, currently lab only, research projects into various different cell architectures and chemistries.

The second issue is also slowly being solved, as now it is obvious to all that passenger car electrification is happening, new platforms are being designed with that in mind.

It's also worth noting that, like an ICE powertrain, the cost of an electric one does NOT linearly scale with capability. This means that a mild hybrid, with say 35kW of power actually costs pretty much the same as one with 135kW of power. (the motor and inverter have all the same bits in they are just a bit smaller, so the BoM is actually very similar. Currently the only bit that does scale with capability is battery capacity in fact.

Smiljan

10,886 posts

198 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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tr3a said:
PSB1967 said:
Apparently my Sister-in-law's new hybrid Rav4 will do 53 mpg despite being a 2.5 litre petrol auto!
It's not an automatic, it has no gears to shift at all - not even a reverse gear. And it really can be that economical, because of its Atkinson cycle engine and energy regeneration.

All this thanks to efficient electric motors and a battery. What makes is complicated is the dinosaur juice engine. That will only be economical for as long as batteries haven't fallen well below $100/kWh in cost. Which will happen within a few years and then simple, fully electric cars will become mainstream.

It will probably happen quicker than you can say the immortal last words "expect hybrid cars to become increasingly prevalent".


It's advertised as an automatic.

PSB1967

Original Poster:

282 posts

157 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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tr3a said:
It's not an automatic, it has no gears to shift at all - not even a reverse gear. And it really can be that economical, because of its Atkinson cycle engine and energy regeneration.

All this thanks to efficient electric motors and a battery. What makes is complicated is the dinosaur juice engine. That will only be economical for as long as batteries haven't fallen well below $100/kWh in cost. Which will happen within a few years and then simple, fully electric cars will become mainstream.

It will probably happen quicker than you can say the immortal last words "expect hybrid cars to become increasingly prevalent".
According to fuelly.com in 2017 178 Hybrid Rav4's did a combined 2,168,617 miles or 12,183 miles each at an averager 31.7 mpg. That's only 59.6 % of the 53.2 mpg its supposed to do. I understand that there is a difference between US and imperial gallons but even so. I also read the Rav4 can only do 1km on electric alone, so the 2.5 petrol engine will be running almost all the time.
The gearbox was sold to them by the dealer as a CVT
Hybrids do have their place in our lives but the dinosaur juice needs to be replaced by human power, that means we all need to pedal more.

tr3a

494 posts

228 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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Smiljan said:


It's advertised as an automatic.
So it is. And as we all know, advertising is true. rolleyes

Advertising it as an automatic is of course much simpler than saying "instead of a multi stage gearbox (manual or automatic) or a continuously variable transmission with a pushing metal belt, it has a single planetary gear system, an electric motor (two, actually), a battery and some clever electronics".

It may be the truth, but it wouldn't sell cars to the punters, mate. Let's just call it an automatic, 'K?

Smiljan

10,886 posts

198 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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I was merely showing that's how it's advertised and hence why they're known as automatics to normal folk.

It's not a manual - so automatic smile

Edited by Smiljan on Saturday 29th September 18:30

romac

598 posts

147 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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Parallel to the Toyota HSD "Automatic" debate is the one about "Transmission" - In some countries this is a synonym for "gearbox" - so does it have a transmission or not? Cue more un-winnable arguments! banghead
I notice that Toyota / Lexus seem to have coined a neat new phrase: "Self-charging Hybrid" bowtie

Mackofthejungle

1,073 posts

196 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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Smiljan said:
I was merely showing that's how it's advertised and hence why they're known as automatics to normal folk.

It's not a manual - so automatic smile

Edited by Smiljan on Saturday 29th September 18:30
To be fair, if it's not a manual it is an automatic. Nobody cares what kind of automatic it is. Do I have to change gear myself? No? Automatic. Simple.