RE: £50k Integra Type R!

RE: £50k Integra Type R!

Monday 1st October 2018

£50k Integra Type R!

Immaculate US-market DC2 makes $63,800 at Barrett Jackson auction; world still trying to get over it



In the annals of fast car history, the original Honda Integra Type R will be very fondly remembered. Frequently lauded as perhaps the greatest front-wheel drive car ever made, it combined a razor sharp chassis with a stunning powertrain and communicative, incisive controls. Oh sure, it was hardly the prettiest coupe, but 10 minutes behind the wheel could convince any doubter.

As such, prices have started to rise recently; where once upon a time £4k bought a good car, that's now the entry point. For genuine low mileage examples nearer £10k is needed. However, all that's been blown out of the water by an American Integra, which has just sold at auction for $63,800. At today's exchange rate, that's £48,889. Or near enough £50k. For an Integra Type R...


Now, of course, that sort of money buys a totally immaculate Integra. This Championship White car is number 37 of the 320 imported to the States in 1997 and, having been with its original owner for more than two decades, has covered just 1,191 miles. Everything from the day it was bought is present - an unopened spare key set, tyre pressure gauge and torch, bill of sale - making this Integra perhaps the most appealing to collectors that there's ever been.

Saving a car that's as sensational to drive as it is dorky and unfashionable to collect does seem rather bizarre, but if that's what people want to do then so be it. Will the current owner ever be able to achieve such an incredible sum for the car in future? Would they ever want to, more pertinently, given this sort of example must be unrepeatable? Whatever the case, it's clear the Integra is becoming as desirable to the wider world of classic cars as it is to us VTEC aficionados - see here for further temptation...




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Gecko1978

Original Poster:

9,757 posts

158 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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WTF its a good car but it's been surpassed by others made by Honda. So unless your desperate to have a 1990s fwd car then I suggest the current civic does all you want for less.

designforlife

3,734 posts

164 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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Mental considering the JDM DC2 type R will be legal to import to the US in two years, I can't help but feel that will pull the value of USDM acura integra Type R's down.


anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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Gecko1978 said:
WTF its a good car but it's been surpassed by others made by Honda. So unless your desperate to have a 1990s fwd car then I suggest the current civic does all you want for less.
Have you ever driven one of these? I owned one for many years, by far and away the best out of the box handling car I have ever owned.

Krikkit

26,555 posts

182 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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cb1965 said:
Gecko1978 said:
WTF its a good car but it's been surpassed by others made by Honda. So unless your desperate to have a 1990s fwd car then I suggest the current civic does all you want for less.
Have you ever driven one of these? I owned one for many years, by far and away the best out of the box handling car I have ever owned.
It's also got the advantage of having lots of little touches over a standard Integra. Imho they're pretty much the most special Honda outside the NSX.

J4CKO

41,676 posts

201 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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I sometimes watch Barrett Jackson on TV and it amazes me how much money changes hands, some very, very wealthy folk in the audience.

I need to stop being surprised at what cars are advertised and/or sell for.


daveco

4,132 posts

208 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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A truly special car compared to the plethora of FI 4 cylinder genericness that infects the segment today.




rtz62

3,374 posts

156 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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Love these, although I've not owned one (yet!)
However, it seems a ridiculous price for something that the new owner won't be able to use for fear of denting its 'value'.
Plus I didn't realise that they had such an ugly steering wheel, or that the US market didn't get the red front seats....
Personally I'd buy one that is in excellent condition but one that can be driven as the manufacturer intended, instead of having to look at it wistfully and wipe it down with micro-micro-microfibre cloth.

chrisironside

670 posts

163 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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Had one and absolutely loved it.
The UK cars certainly looked better on the inside though!

is1

188 posts

149 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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The US got a raw deal - no titanium shift knob, no Recaro Speed seats and no MOMO steering wheel.
Also, the ROTW wheels were forged and incredibly light - not sure about the ones fitted to the car in the article but other than the mileage, this seems to omit much of the stuff that geeks like about cars like this.

dc2rr07

1,238 posts

232 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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is1 said:
The US got a raw deal - no titanium shift knob, no Recaro Speed seats and no MOMO steering wheel.
Also, the ROTW wheels were forged and incredibly light - not sure about the ones fitted to the car in the article but other than the mileage, this seems to omit much of the stuff that geeks like about cars like this.
Certainly looks like the US got short changed on that, it makes you wonder what else was not included.

mooseracer

1,911 posts

171 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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Gecko1978 said:
WTF its a good car but it's been surpassed by others made by Honda. So unless your desperate to have a 1990s fwd car then I suggest the current civic does all you want for less.
Interested to know which subsequent Honda you think has surpassed it

designforlife

3,734 posts

164 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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is1 said:
The US got a raw deal - no titanium shift knob, no Recaro Speed seats and no MOMO steering wheel.
Also, the ROTW wheels were forged and incredibly light - not sure about the ones fitted to the car in the article but other than the mileage, this seems to omit much of the stuff that geeks like about cars like this.
The Acura RSX type S got a similarly raw deal (rough equivalent to the DC5 type R) - no recaro seats, no MOMO wheel no LSD, worse suspension, slightly detuned engine, no lightweight OEM wheels and different manual box.

havoc

30,119 posts

236 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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is1 said:
The US got a raw deal - no titanium shift knob, no Recaro Speed seats and no MOMO steering wheel.
Also, the ROTW wheels were forged and incredibly light - not sure about the ones fitted to the car in the article but other than the mileage, this seems to omit much of the stuff that geeks like about cars like this.
They look like EK9 wheels, which if so is not a bad thing.

Agree on the omissions - they also got the pre-facelift front bumper, I think.



I dearly love these cars - owned 2 across 9 years, only sold the second when we started a family and it was choose between the DC2 or the NSX (Overall I made the right decision, but for fun and involvement the DC2 definitely shades a standard NA1), and I'm still determined to get another one when circumstances permit...

...but even I think that price is bonkers!

rossub

4,471 posts

191 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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Gecko1978 said:
WTF its a good car but it's been surpassed by others made by Honda. So unless your desperate to have a 1990s fwd car then I suggest the current civic does all you want for less.
There’s always one. Totally different market rolleyes

rodericb

6,776 posts

127 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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Gecko1978 said:
WTF its a good car but it's been surpassed by others made by Honda. So unless your desperate to have a 1990s fwd car then I suggest the current civic does all you want for less.
Like any car, actually. Makes you wonder why people pay good money for old Porsches, Ferraris and so on when the modern ones far surpass those old heaps!

Ursicles

1,070 posts

243 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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Now imagine what it would have been worth with the lush red seats we had!

Still miss mine frown

Addymk2

334 posts

173 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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Gecko1978 said:
WTF its a good car but it's been surpassed by others made by Honda. So unless your desperate to have a 1990s fwd car then I suggest the current civic does all you want for less.
I'm with you the 1.5dCi is fantastic rolleyes

I had a UK Spec DC2 for 6 months. I liked it, but I wouldn't pay more than £7,500 for a mint example. It was good but I can't say I ever got on with the B18.

bencollins4

1,103 posts

207 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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rodericb said:
Gecko1978 said:
WTF its a good car but it's been surpassed by others made by Honda. So unless your desperate to have a 1990s fwd car then I suggest the current civic does all you want for less.
Like any car, actually. Makes you wonder why people pay good money for old Porsches, Ferraris and so on when the modern ones far surpass those old heaps!
Clearly not a car you've driven then. It has absolutely not been surpassed by Honda. Lucky enough to have owned a really nice one and quite recently. There is no way you can 'get' this car without having a proper drive.

UKDM interior is much more special than this one, so they are surely good for £100k+!

Seriously, as good as they are this seems like a mental amount of money for one of these right now.

Alex_225

6,271 posts

202 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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bencollins4 said:
Seriously, as good as they are this seems like a mental amount of money for one of these right now.
To be fair that goes for a lot of cars we're seeing come up at staggering prices.

Fantastic cars don't get me wrong but seeing the amounts they go for or are advertised for is staggering. This being one of them.

scenario8

6,574 posts

180 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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cb1965 said:
Have you ever driven one of these?
It appears the previous owner didn’t drive it much and they had 20 years to give it a go!

It does make me wonder the motivation of that owner during those 20 years - and that of the new owner too. Will they drive it? In which case it’s interesting they didn’t source a cheaper example. Are they “just” a collector? Goodness they must have some cash - or a peculiar taste for such a thing. An investor? Quite the risk you’d think.

Anyway, best of luck to all of them.