RE: Audi Allroad V8: Spotted

RE: Audi Allroad V8: Spotted

Thursday 4th October 2018

Audi Allroad V8: Spotted

Who needs a fast SUV when a 15 year-old A6 can do everything you need for £6k?



SUVs are popular - you might have heard. Small and large, fast and slow, good and bad, there's no stopping the rise of the Sports Utility Vehicle. Or the Sports Activity Coupe. Or whatever else there now is.

However, for a good while there has actually been an alternative: the off-road estate. Unencumbered by the bulk of a 'full' 4x4 but bolstered with a chunk more go-anywhere ability than a regular wagon (and as much as most people will probably need), they arguably represent the best of both worlds for most people. Or they would, were it not that a lot of SUV buyers seem to like the high-rise driving position - the estates can't offer that.


Still, for those who aren't troubled by a regular ride height, various Scouts, Allroads, Alltraks and Country Tourers should, in theory, offer a lot. In addition to the lower kerb weight compared to an SUV (and therefore improved dynamics and efficiency), there's an argument to say they look better than fully fledged off-roaders as well. Or at least more car-like. The only real disadvantage would appear to be a lack of performance variants, as the SUVs take the bulk of engineering focus. That said, Audi was there nearly 20 years ago with this - the A6 Allroad V8.

Yes, V8. 300hp, no less. The majority of first-gen, C5 A6 Allroads were sold with the 2.5-litre diesel, or the turbocharged 2.7-litre V6. A few, however, did reach customers powered by the 4.2-litre V8, with 300hp, 280lb ft, and - one would assume - a pleasingly woofly soundtrack. The fact it wasn't much faster than the cheaper V6 - 0-62mph in 7.2 seconds and 149mph flat out - won't have helped its popularity, neither will its 21.3mpg fuel economy average.


As a secondhand purchase though, the chunky V8 offers considerable appeal when every other engine around is now turbocharged. Of course plumping for a 4.2-litre version will make the notoriously troublesome Allroad even more costly to run, but it is just £6,495 to start with. And £2.5k has just been spent. What's the worst that could happen? (Don't take that as buying advice. Please.)

In addition to that recent work, this Allroad has only covered 75,000 miles since 2004 and, as far as can be told from the advert pics, looks in decent condition. It seems this car has been spared the life of a workhorse, a fate that fell upon many of the lesser Allroads. Of course, there's no substitute for a proper inspection, but there's plenty to be encouraged by here. It's even the correct sort of sludgey, indistinguishable, muddy colour for light off-roading. Cool.


At the time of its launch the Allroad was rather in a class competing with itself, the rest of the world not really buying into the tough estates in the same way Audi did (and continues to do). Add a V8 to that formula and the A6 is pretty much without rival - similarly butch cars have much more prosaic powertrains, while those cars with V8s and 300hp won't be anywhere near as multi-talented. All viable alternatives welcomed, because we're stumped...

Oh sure, the V8 Allroad is an extremely niche choice, but it's one we're absolutely on board with. Rare, subtle, powerful and interesting, there's a lot to commend it as a family bus with a difference, assuming there's the usual Allroad contingency fund in place. Think of it this way: the new SQ2 has just been launched, boasting 300hp and a sliver of off-road ability for five people. Granted, that'll be more capable at the limit than this but, quite frankly, who cares? A V8 in one of Audi's most appealing executive car designs, with the added intrigue of Allroad spec, makes this A6 deeply attractive. Do let us know if you take the plunge...


SPECIFICATION - AUDI ALLROAD 4.2

Engine: 4,172cc, V8
Transmission: 6-speed auto, all-wheel drive
Power (hp): 300@6,200rpm
Torque (lb ft): 280@3,000rpm
CO2: 331g/km
MPG: 13.6 (!)
First registered: 2004
Recorded mileage: 75,000
Price new: £41,255
Yours for: £6,495

See the original advert here.

 

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jm28

Original Poster:

48 posts

116 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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Don’t these combust with the fire of a thousand suns if one tyre has +/- 0.5 mm of tread compared to the others (including the spare)?

Mike335i

5,013 posts

103 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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Strangely alluring, but not for me. If it lost the all road bits it would be better still.

rtz62

3,374 posts

156 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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3 words;
Air suspension faults...

daddy cool

4,002 posts

230 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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With all the money you save over a new SUV you could finish painting the Audi!

Maldini35

2,913 posts

189 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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Older ones can be a money pit as mentioned but when they are working, they are brilliant.
Pick of the Audi range (for me anyway)

hondansx

4,574 posts

226 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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Brilliant find! Talk me out of it.

g7jhp

6,970 posts

239 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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Those black plastic bumpers and wheel arch protectors are perfect for minor bumps on the school run! biggrin

chris4652009

1,572 posts

85 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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jm28 said:
Don’t these combust with the fire of a thousand suns if one tyre has +/- 0.5 mm of tread compared to the others (including the spare)?
Only on PH

cerb4.5lee

30,804 posts

181 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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I never knew they did a V8 in these, I only thought they came with 6 cylinder engines. An interesting prospect, I always remember when these first launched, and it seemed an odd ball car to me. I like them now though.

Vee12V

1,335 posts

161 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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I'm liking this more than I probably should. Good thing I don't live in the UK.

chris4652009

1,572 posts

85 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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Are they that rare? I thought there were a good few of them around tbh

mylesmcd

2,535 posts

220 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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Just sold my 2.5TDI recently after 60k plus kms in it.

It was bought relatively cheaply (4k) so I knew there were problems incoming, so I was on the verge of buying the Arnots Kit to replace the airbags (compressor already replaced) annnnnnd it blew in the first week of ownership. SO, off for a full replacement and fluid check and bar routine maintenance there was not much more that needed done to it.. .then sold it for 5k!

pb8g09

2,352 posts

70 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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If there was a poll on the top 5 ghastliest vehicles on UK roads to have a V8 in, surely this would be in there?

QuattroDave

1,467 posts

129 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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I had the non allroad saloon C5 with this engine.

The gearbox on these are just woeful, lethargic doesn't even get close to how crappy this box was at changing gear, it stifled the engines capabilities massively.

As for the mpg that's a pure work of fiction. I regularly achieved just 10mpg around town and the best ever was 25mpg to this day I regret buying this car over a similarly aged XJR I passed up.

It kept blowing the air mass meter, luckily I bought and had i fitted by Audi so every time it went pop I'd get them to replace it with another through warranty. Five it got through in a year :S

Was glad to see the back of it


mrbarnett

1,091 posts

94 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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I can't think of any V8 rivals to this old workhorse, but Volvo's XC70 came eventually with a T6 power plants, which matched the V8 for power. Subaru's Outback had a rather lovely 3.0 flat 6, which wasn't a million miles off the Audi at around 250 hp.

That's about it, though...

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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Not for me thanks. The automotive equivalent of being seen wearing a pair of these:



The 4.2 V8 in the S8 pumped out 360bhp - where did the missing 60bhp go?

Edited by DrSteveBrule on Thursday 4th October 09:51

Resolutionary

1,263 posts

172 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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I had one of the 2.7TT engined tiptronic ones, a late 2002 example. These are built like actual tanks, genuinely some of the most impressive overall quality I've seen on a car, new or old. I test drove a rather ratty V8 one before I plumbed for the more tuneable V6 petrol, but mine was written off eventually and I started looking for a replacement.

I'll never forget the one and only V8 one I saw and pined after; a misano-red-with-red-bumpers, Recaro seat equipped one with all the trimmings. However at £6k 3/4 years ago it was a bit of a sum for what it was (or so I thought). Interesting to see this one for sale at a bit more than that.

People will immediately jump on potential air suspension issues, but as with anything the signs of wear are relatively easy to spot and there are preventative fixes which can prolong the life of the compressor and struts. Replacement stuff is expensive, but given the vintage and tech on offer that should come as no surprise.

I, for one, love the original Allroad.

feef

5,206 posts

184 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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Probably the only Audi I'd seriously consider as a DD for me, although I'd probably be happy with the diesel.

Criteria it meets for me are comfort (air suspension), load carrying space and 4wd which makes it ideal for runs to the dump, trips up and down the country to see family, carrying sports equipment to events and going skiing in the Alps.

If the Alfa dies any time soon, an A6 AllRoad will definitely be on the shortlist

QuadrifoglioVerde

32 posts

157 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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From the days when an Audi could still be described as 'classy'. Where did it all go wrong?!

2hondadave

71 posts

192 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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I had a diesel one about 3 years ago, the air suspension is not that expensive to fix these days. I ordered new front airbags and struts from Germany for about £450, and it cost a couple of hundred to have it all fitted, after which it was perfect.

Mine was a manual, diesel and it was the fuel pump failing which eventually made it uneconomical to keep. Pity, after it had only just been 'fixed' before I bought the car. The auto box is also known for being a potential trouble spot, so I thought I had all bases covered buying a manual with a refurbed fuel pump. Thought that once the suspension was done I was good to go for some time frown

When it was working properly it was great, and I considered going for another (including looking at a V8), but complaints from the wife put an end to that. rolleyes