RE: Ford Fiesta ST: Driven

RE: Ford Fiesta ST: Driven

Friday 5th October 2018

2020 Ford Fiesta ST (Mk8) | UK Review

Our first go in an ST without the Performance Pack and its limited slip diff. Do we miss the £850 option?



Let's not beat around the bush, the Fiesta ST we have here is pretty much identical to the one we tested earlier this year, barring fitment of the Performance Pack and its main ingredient: a limited slip diff. For that reason, we'll get to the point in question rather quickly. Is the optional Quaife limited slip differential this pack brings worth the additional outlay? Or would you be better off saving those pennies - all £850 worth of them - for petrol and jam sandwiches?

We'll get to that in just a sec, promise, following a quick revisit of the basics. You'll know the new Fiesta ST uses a 1.5-litre three-cylinder engine producing 200hp and 214lb ft of torque, giving it enough grunt to hit 62mph in 6.5 seconds and a top speed of 144mph. For a car costing from £19,245 in ST-1 guise, that's pretty good going, but in truth just 1 per cent of STs leave the showroom in this basic form. 71 per cent come in top ST-3 form without the Performance Pack, meaning the car you see here - oh look, an ST-3 sans slip diff - best represents the norm in Britain.


ST-3 cars get 18-inch wheels as standard wrapped in Michelin Pilot Super Sport rubber, as well as red brake calipers. They also come with plenty of kit inside, including an 8.0-inch touchscreen infotainment system with satnav, automatic climate control and slim-fitting leather Recaro sports seats. To your average Joe, an ST-3 looks like a pretty well rounded offer, so it's of little surprise a total of 80 per cent leave the showroom without the slippy diff, launch control and gear shift lights of the Performance Pack.

The venue to test whether Joe is right to ignore this option is a web of roads that twist and interlink across Snowdonia National Park, just south west of Hiraethog. These tarmac ribbons have cambers and undulations, and this being rural Wales in October, are coated in a thin layer of moisture left over by the morning mist. Perfect circumstances, you might say, to test the effectiveness of a diff - or rather, a lack of one. To make sure our perceptions are doubly accurate, we bring along a Performance Pack'd ST-3 for a back-to-back comparison.


Even when focused on analysing one trait of the Fiesta ST's performance, it's hard to overlook how sweetly the thing turns and steers on a UK B-road. It responds to each input swiftly, that perforated leather-coated helm requiring a satisfyingly small amount of input to direct the front end left and right around bends. The ride on these rough and occasionally cracked surfaces is also rather good, and an aggressive right foot doesn't encourage the front wheels to bounce and jitter as they struggle to put the power down like you might imagine. Instead, they grip. Well. So much so that if you drive along this route at six or seven tenths, the non Performance Pack Fiesta ST feels, to be honest, equally as good as the slipp diff'd car. One point to Joe.

Up your efforts and start to demand drive from the front axle while steering lock is applied, however, and the inside wheel will slip. It's not enough to cause an unrequested visit to the surrounding grasslands, but there's a very slight straightening of turn angle and lightening of steering weight that confirms we are in fact experiencing understeer of minute proportions. Joe and his ilk might never explore this realm of pace, but for those of us who take pleasure in feeling a car's suspension load up through a corner as we demand to be slung towards the next, a lack of diff has noticeable effects on progress.


This thought is compounded by a drive in the Performance Pack car, which tackles the same corner exits with a neater line that not only gives you more confidence in the front end, but also more options as to how to embrace its agility. Powering out of a bend while retaining some angle of steering input will see the car tighten its line, rather than the opposite. For us lot, it means you can be even more aggressive with the throttle and encourage the rear end - which is very happy to cock an inside wheel and slip, particularly in the car's Sport and Race modes - to help tighten the line. For others, it simply means you have even more control of the direction of travel, particularly in moist conditions like these.

What of the other features included in the Performance Pack? We're not sure many people would actually miss them if they weren't fitted. It's not like 200hp is particularly difficult to manage manually, or that the three-cylinder engine - as enthusiastic as it may be - revs so quickly that you need a visual reminder to change up at the correct time. Some may like the raciness of such features, but for most part, the £850 bill for the Performance Pack will be for the Quaife diff. The launch control and shift lights are just added bonuses. Or unwelcome gimmicks.


So yes, we've come to a conclusion that, to some extent, many of us probably predicted. Then again, maybe we expected the standard, Performance Pack-free car to falter even more than it does. It's still a fine driver's machine that ranks right at the top of the class, which emphasises how great of a job Ford has done with the chassis of its latest hot hatch. It's just that the diff takes things to the next level. It remains a must have option if you're really serious about driving.


SPECIFICATION | 2020 FORD FIESTA ST-3 (Mk8)
Engine:
1,497cc, turbocharged 3-cyl
Transmission: 6-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 200@6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 214@1,600-4,000rpm
0-62mph: 6.5sec
Top speed: 144mph
Weight: 1,262kg (EU, with driver)
MPG: 47.1
CO2: 136g/km
Price: £21,995

 




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Rob747

Original Poster:

226 posts

176 months

Friday 5th October 2018
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“So yes, we've come to a conclusion that, to some extent, many of us probably predicted, although maybe we expected the standard, Performance Pack-free car to falter even more than it does. ”

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samoht

5,715 posts

146 months

Friday 5th October 2018
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Thanks, good to have both versions compared back to back and I felt the article did a good job of explaining precisely what the limited-slip diff adds to the drive, and when.

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

179 months

Friday 5th October 2018
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samoht said:
Thanks, good to have both versions compared back to back and I felt the article did a good job of explaining precisely what the limited-slip diff adds to the drive, and when.
Looks and sounds good. I really like these new Fiesta STs. I was never keen on the shape of the old Fiesta - I thought they looked a little upright from the side and I didn't find the interior attractive

That wouldn't stop me having one, but this rights those wrongs in my opinion. I don't like the screen and the rear number plate would look better in the bumper I think, but they're very minor complaints

David87

6,658 posts

212 months

Friday 5th October 2018
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I’m really surprised that over 70% of buyers are avoiding the Performance Pack. I’d have though it’d be the other way round.

rtz62

3,369 posts

155 months

Friday 5th October 2018
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“Or would you be better off saving those pennies - all £850 worth of them - for petrol and jam sandwiches”

Sorry, I’ve come over all Peter Kay
Petrol and jam sandwiches?
Petrol. And Jam. Sandwiches?

Ed.

2,173 posts

238 months

Friday 5th October 2018
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David87 said:
I’m really surprised that over 70% of buyers are avoiding the Performance Pack. I’d have though it’d be the other way round.
Buyer's may be happy to pay for it but leasing is the norm now isn't it?

Deep Thought

35,823 posts

197 months

Friday 5th October 2018
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Ed. said:
David87 said:
I’m really surprised that over 70% of buyers are avoiding the Performance Pack. I’d have though it’d be the other way round.
Buyer's may be happy to pay for it but leasing is the norm now isn't it?
Leasing isnt the norm, but PCP is, and i dont think the Performance Pack would add much to the monthly payment - certainly not to the point of being a deal breaker.

I suspect the bulk of ST-3 buyers dont "think" they need it.


sungsam

29 posts

78 months

Friday 5th October 2018
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I have ordered the performance pack, but there seems to be a delay in build.

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

72 months

Friday 5th October 2018
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Jimmy Recard said:
Looks and sounds good
I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that, but "looks good"? Really? Looks like an incredibly dull and boring cooking spec C-Max to me with an ST badge stuck on the back and some Halfords specials for wheels. A truly hideous looking thing.

Onehp

1,617 posts

283 months

Saturday 6th October 2018
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Hmm. I love a diff on any 2wd performance car, makes such a difference. But when you look around, you also know the vast majority of road drivers, even those that like 'fast cars', has no use for one. Still great Ford offers it in this segment, would have a FST, with PP, in a heartbeat if it fitted in my life.

Onehp

1,617 posts

283 months

Saturday 6th October 2018
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Lemming Train said:
I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that, but "looks good"? Really? Looks like an incredibly dull and boring cooking spec C-Max to me with an ST badge stuck on the back and some Halfords specials for wheels. A truly hideous looking thing.
I this is hideous, please show me a good looking small hatchback in your eyes. Maybe I missed something.


Edited by Onehp on Saturday 6th October 07:12

greenarrow

3,595 posts

117 months

Saturday 6th October 2018
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Onehp said:
Lemming Train said:
I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that, but "looks good"? Really? Looks like an incredibly dull and boring cooking spec C-Max to me with an ST badge stuck on the back and some Halfords specials for wheels. A truly hideous looking thing.
I this is hideous, please show me a good looking small hatchback in your eyes. Maybe I missed something.


Edited by Onehp on Saturday 6th October 07:12
Whilst I don't think the current ST looks quite as sharp as the MK7, its far from ugly. Also note that its yet another troll like comment from someone too afraid to disclose what's in their own garage..

I could see this car in 5 door version becoming my next daily driver. It ticks just about every box really. The performance is spot on for UK driving, not too fast, not too slow. Its not too big, too heavy, its just a Ford so hopefully you'll get allowed out of side roads (not always a given if you're driving a BMW or Audi). It'll average 40+MPG in daily driving, but will be fun enough to take out on the weekend just for the hell of it. Good job Ford. Note to Vauxhall...this is how you do a junior hot hatchback...

VeeFource

1,076 posts

177 months

Saturday 6th October 2018
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Makes me wonder what the chances of finding an ST2 with performance pack are in a few years. I'm not the biggest fan of auto lights etc but especially not the infamous keyless security issue that the ST3 comes with as standard.

Edited by VeeFource on Saturday 6th October 12:08

morgs_

1,663 posts

187 months

Saturday 6th October 2018
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David87 said:
I’m really surprised that over 70% of buyers are avoiding the Performance Pack. I’d have though it’d be the other way round.
Me too, certainly hasn't been our experience but I realise that doesn't necessarily reflect the national trend. From the way it is written I guess that is only UK figures. I'm sure PH got their figures from Ford, but would be interesting to see the source data.

Deep Thought said:
Ed. said:
David87 said:
I’m really surprised that over 70% of buyers are avoiding the Performance Pack. I’d have though it’d be the other way round.
Buyer's may be happy to pay for it but leasing is the norm now isn't it?
Leasing isnt the norm, but PCP is, and i dont think the Performance Pack would add much to the monthly payment - certainly not to the point of being a deal breaker.

I suspect the bulk of ST-3 buyers dont "think" they need it.
The PP is residualised, so adds very little to a PCP payment.

sungsam said:
I have ordered the performance pack, but there seems to be a delay in build.
If you've ordered an ST-3 it won't be the PP causing the delay. There is higher than expected demand for the ST-3, so demand is outstripping supply at the moment and led to the delays.

VeeFource said:
Makes me wonder what the chances of finding an ST2 with performance pack is in a few years. I'm not the biggest fan of auto lights etc but especially not the infamous keyless security issue that the ST3 comes with as standard.
You're going to have an issue with pretty much all new cars going forward then! Auto lights are now standard across the whole Fiesta range, part of the latest Euro NCAP safety ratings.

Mike1990

964 posts

131 months

Saturday 6th October 2018
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My current car has a diff, i couldn’t go back to a fwd car without one now if I’am honest especially knowing there’s on option to spec one for not much money!



traffman

2,263 posts

209 months

Saturday 6th October 2018
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Ive had a quaife fitted to my Honda ep3. Its the single biggest difference in the car ever.

Deep Thought

35,823 posts

197 months

Saturday 6th October 2018
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traffman said:
Ive had a quaife fitted to my Honda ep3. Its the single biggest difference in the car ever.
+1

If i was going for an ST it would be a no brainer.

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

72 months

Saturday 6th October 2018
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greenarrow said:
Also note that its yet another troll like comment from someone too afraid to disclose what's in their own garage..
Righto.. is that what it is then? I am "too afraid"? OK chap. Or could it just be that some people don't feel the need to post personal details about their life and vehicle ownership to randoms on internet forums? To shut up you I have a blue Focus ST estate. I wait for you to find something to slate about it because that's what you looked at my profile for, hoping to do, wasn't it?

JMF894

5,504 posts

155 months

Saturday 6th October 2018
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Deep Thought said:
traffman said:
Ive had a quaife fitted to my Honda ep3. Its the single biggest difference in the car ever.
+1

If i was going for an ST it would be a no brainer.
Yep I did the same with my 9-5 Aero. A transformation on fast roads. It would just dig in and accelerate round corners. I would love to try a quaife in something with decent steering as well. That I could do nothing about in the Saab.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Saturday 6th October 2018
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JMF894 said:
Deep Thought said:
traffman said:
Ive had a quaife fitted to my Honda ep3. Its the single biggest difference in the car ever.
+1

If i was going for an ST it would be a no brainer.
Yep I did the same with my 9-5 Aero. A transformation on fast roads. It would just dig in and accelerate round corners. I would love to try a quaife in something with decent steering as well. That I could do nothing about in the Saab.
Same here. Added one to my Elise and it makes a huge difference.