RE: Maserati 3200 GT: Spotted

RE: Maserati 3200 GT: Spotted

Saturday 24th November

Maserati 3200 GT: Spotted

A sub £10k Maserati always sounds too good to be true. And it probably is



This business of buying a really interesting old car for the sort of money that wouldn't buy you a new car - say £10k - is all very well, but if you've only got that much to spend on a car are you going to have the wherewithal to be able to pay the running costs an older and more exotic car will doubtless demand? Actually, that's your affair - we don't care. After all, our job is merely to tempt your appetite, and yours is to control it.

However, before you do control it take a look at this Maserati 3200 GT we've found in the classifieds. A good-looking and popular car, the 3200 GT, but this one is of course featured here because of its bargain-basement price tag: £9995. Dare you take the plunge on something so richly furnished and convincingly badged and yet so goddam cheap?


The car in the ad certainly makes a convincing case for itself, and you can't diss a 3200 GT, especially one with the boomerang rear lights. The engine is its heart, though. Under that elegant bonnet the 90-degree 3.2-litre V8 uses two IHI turbochargers with air-to-air intercoolers, and each of the V8's cylinder banks has double overhead camshafts, and each cylinder has four valves, so all the boxes are ticked there then.

Along with Magneti Marelli fuel injection, this engine offers 370hp at 6,250rpm and 376lb ft of torque at 4,500rpm. You can expect performance from this four-speed Automatica version to be in the order of 5.7 seconds 0 to 60mph, and a top speed of 168mph flat out. In other words, that'll do, pig, that'll do.


What won't do, of course, in the real world, is the potential for huge expenditure. For God's sake make sure it's got a full service history and the cambelt's been changed regularly, because even a small thing like the throttle body is a known - and £2000 - weak spot. In fact nearly every part on this magnificent-looking beast will be expensive to replace or repair, so expect it to cost a fortune to run, and just putting fuel in it and servicing it and taxing it will probably cost you more annually than the average third-world budget.

But if you can only afford a £10k car and you bought this one I would think you a man or woman of infinite style. I might even drive you to the bankruptcy hearing.

Mark Pearson


SPECIFICATION - MASERATI 3200GT
Engine:
3,217cc, twin turbo V8
Transmission: four-speed automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 370@6,250rpm
Torque (lb ft): 376@4,500rpm
MPG: 17
CO2: 388g/km
First registered: 1999
Recorded mileage: 76,000miles
Price new: £60,575
Yours for: £9995

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Kipplemaster

Original Poster:

64 posts

143 months

Saturday 24th November
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"...you can't diss a 3200 GT, especially one with the boomerang rear lights."

All 3200GTs have boomerang rear lights. The later Coupe/4200 which has more conventional lights is a different car, just based on the same shell and interior.

"...make sure it's got a full service history and the cambelt's been changed regularly"

You would be insane to buy one without a full inspection from a specialist who can check for all the known signs of trouble (like "end-float")

"...just putting fuel in it and servicing it and taxing it will probably cost you more annually than the average third-world budget."

The servicing will. Budget £3000 a year for servicing regardless of mileage. Fuel is no different from any similar car. Tax on a 1999 registered car will be the same as any other post 1978 but pre-2001 car with more than a 1.5 litre engine ie £235 a year. The 2001 registered cars had a number of improvements and are reputed to be slightly less unreliable but the tax will be a bit more (£330).

SVS

3,487 posts

207 months

Saturday 24th November
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Whoa! £3,000 a year for servicing regardless of mileage yikes

CS Garth

1,729 posts

41 months

Saturday 24th November
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More potential for things to go wrong than Jimmy Saville at a kid's birthday party.

One for the crack enthusiasts only.

MrC986

2,158 posts

127 months

Saturday 24th November
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My brother in law had one of these from nearly new not long after they were launched. It was a great car, though the manufacturers warranty saved him a small fortune....it went in for a regular service and some repairs and if it hadn't been under warranty, the repair bill would have been about £7.5k (admittedly at the main dealers).

I remember the car had such character/style and the way it went when you put the accelerator down was great(it was an auto). Its sad that they've got a reputation for being ruinous on costs. You've got to have some large kahoonahs to run one, or you're a proper Maser fan who accepts it comes with the character.

p4cks

2,322 posts

135 months

Saturday 24th November
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Good looking little things this,especially that rear quarter and bum
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ianwayne

1,910 posts

204 months

Saturday 24th November
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Kipplemaster said:
Tax on a 1999 registered car will be the same as any other post 1978 but pre-2001 car with more than a 1.5 litre engine ie £235 a year. The 2001 registered cars had a number of improvements and are reputed to be slightly less unreliable but the tax will be a bit more (£330).
Fair points but you're a couple of years out of date there. It was £235 in 2016/17. Cars registered before March 2001 and over 1549cc are currently £255 p.a. frown

pycraft

85 posts

120 months

Saturday 24th November
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MrC986 said:
You've got to have some large kahoonahs to run one
Large Hawaiian tribal chiefs? Only if they'll fit in the back seats.

GranCab

1,267 posts

82 months

Saturday 24th November
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Plenty of room in the back seats for normal sized people ....

I had one from new but after just 6 weeks it had to go back to Graypaul as the bodyshell was twisted.

BigChiefmuffinAgain

75 posts

34 months

Saturday 24th November
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You can buy a later 4200 for pretty much the same price. It's a lot more "sorted" than this car though still for the brave (and lacks the boomerangs).

sjabrown

1,234 posts

96 months

Saturday 24th November
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Who else clicked with the expectation of a pretty photo of the boomerang lights, and was left disappointed by the bland pics?

BigGingerBob

1,326 posts

126 months

Saturday 24th November
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Am I the only person who doesn't like the boomerang lights?
To me it makes it look dated, the 4200 lights are much better, if not a bit boring.

Jimbo.

3,438 posts

125 months

Saturday 24th November
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I _think_ throttle bodies can be repaired (recon/swap) for a lot less than £2K.

Clutches are the biggest PITA. And Maserati are being c-units about it.

Contigo

2,970 posts

145 months

Saturday 24th November
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Throttle body upgrade to contactless system is £399 from Maserati Shed (Hi Mike!)

If you bought this car (or any 3200) without an Emblem inspection then you would be crazy and could be looking at the same price again to fix all of the issues. Wishbones (which crack) are £1200 per corner if not more.

I've written a buying guide on them over at SportsMaserati,com

I love these cars but buy the best you can and it will look after you, buy a dog and it will bite you very hard.


popeyewhite

7,536 posts

56 months

Saturday 24th November
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"A good-looking and popular car, the 3200 GT, but this one is of course featured here because of its bargain-basement price tag: £9995."

Have you sacked-your proof-reader Mark?

J4CKO

25,723 posts

136 months

Saturday 24th November
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Chap I know bought one, he is in the trade, it was a torrid tale. He crashed it as the throttle jammed open, I smelt BS but the throttle is definitely and issue on these.

He got the bits slowly and rebuilt it on a farm where he borrowed some space, when it was nearly ready, a dog chased a rat into the interior and proceeded to go mental, causing a lot of damage.

He got it sorted and back on the road and it threw up yet more faults.

Lovely, but you need to have the right disposition, skills and tolerance, and a few quid to one side.

Mackofthejungle

779 posts

131 months

Saturday 24th November
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BigGingerBob said:
Am I the only person who doesn't like the boomerang lights?
To me it makes it look dated, the 4200 lights are much better, if not a bit boring.
Couldn't disagree more. The square lights just looked desperately bland, and knowing they only existed because American's were too distracted to see thin lights only made it worse.

I also don't see what's wrong with a car looking dated - it's 20 years old, it should look dated.

RichTBiscuit

407 posts

87 months

Saturday 24th November
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This has been for sale for years (yep, years). And looks an absolute dog, with a dodgy paint white re-spray. Suspect this will be broken for parts when the seller finally gives up.

I have a 3200, and it's an incredible car. It really is very well engineered and feels like a junior supercar - much more special than a 996 for example.

They can be maintained on a reasonable budget, but you need to be able to do work yourself - if you can't spanner, I would not recommend one unless you have deep pockets. I wouldn't recommend it as an everyday car - in the same way as you wouldn't drive a 20 year old Ferrari every day, without large costs.

- 4 brake discs can now be had for less than £400 via the Sports Maserati forum as opposed to £1000 from Maserati. Pads are only £40 or so.

- Electronic throttle bodies can be re-furbed for £400 rather than £1500 from Maserati.

- OBD1 ECU's can be read with freely available windows software and a cheap cable, making Error reading and re-setting free and easy. OBD2 ECU's can be read with standard OBD2 readers

- Cambelts can be changed for around £700 from Mike Roberts Maserati. Needed every 3 years (or 4 years if you really only do 1000 miles per year).

- Starter motors can go bad, but non-maserati motors are freely available for around £80. Maserati charge around £400.

- You'll read stuff about 'end float' ruining engines, but from speaking to numerous specialists its not actually that common and is caused by using incorrect oil, not changing the oil frequently and ragging the engine from cold.

- Lower front wishbones can go bad around 40 - 50k miles, you can now get pattern parts for around £400 rather than £800 from Maserati.

- Clutches last well if treated properly and are about £1500 to replace - no more than 'other' cars.

A really special car, that doesn't cost that much to run if you know what you're doing. You can indeed get a good one for 12k+ . In my opinion it's an absolute bargain.

Rich

Escy

1,597 posts

85 months

Saturday 24th November
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I'm convinced I could run one of these cheaply. First thing i'd do is fit a standalone ECU and replace the throttle body (and any other troublesome sensors) with something more modern. Maybe one day i'll have the opportunity to test my theory out. I love the look of them and the fact they are turbo charged.

Jimbo.

3,438 posts

125 months

Saturday 24th November
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Given they’ve a V8 upfront already, you do wonder if these would be ripe for a Chevy V8 transplant if an engine replacement was to prove too expensive. And American engines into Italian cars isn’t anything new!

DBRacingGod

498 posts

128 months

Saturday 24th November
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Maserati 3200? Talk to me.