RE: Fiat 124 Spider: Spotted

RE: Fiat 124 Spider: Spotted

Thursday 13th December 2018

Fiat 124 Spider: Spotted

For £25k you could buy a new Fiat 124 Spider - or this one...



For something based on the universally acclaimed Mazda MX-5, the Fiat 124 does still struggle on occasion to garner a positive reception. Too laggy for some, too ugly for others, it hasn't quite hit the mark with enthusiasts. Arguably, of course, that was never the point; the MX-5 is there for B-road blasting, the 124 suited more to a relaxed gait, a situation in which it's actually rather likeable.

Let's not forget, either, that that was the exact remit of the original 124 Spider. The often overlooked 124 Coupe was more dynamically talented, but that's no surprise given that the convertible, launched in 1966, traded structural rigidity for a Pininfarina-penned open-top design; it was such a successful look, in fact, that many from both sides of the Atlantic lusted after the 124 during its 16 years in production. It was - and to some people still is - one of the prettiest sports cars to come out of Italy.


You could say the 124 Spider represented the best of Fiat, as it was an attractive, sweet-handling rear-drive convertible that was affordable and provided reasonable running costs. Much of the latter was down to the car's use of fairly low capacity four-cylinder engines, which grew through several updates from a carb-fed 1.4 with the original car to a fuel injected 2.0 twin-cam in 1979, which could be equipped with a turbocharger as an option.

For some enthusiasts, much of the 124's appeal came from the spawning of an Abarth competition version, which went on to rally across the globe with great success. The Fiat Abarth 124 Rally, as it was called, used a 128hp version of the 1.8 twin cam motor and it earned its stripes with titles including the European Rally Championship. In reflection of that, today's 124 has also spawned a competition version, which is R-GT eligible.


The original 124's success owed much to strong demand in the US, where, despite the eventual addition of ghastly plastic bumpers as per regulations, the model was light years ahead of the sluggish, big capacity products produced domestically when oil prices were sky high. Across its 16 years on sale, close to 175,000 examples of the 124 were sold globally.

As a 1982 car, today's Spotted is an example right from the end of the model's life, which makes it quite rare, and it comes with the best engine offered with the 124 - the 105hp fuel-injected 2.0-litre. The car has just returned from the US, where a specialist extensively restored it for £26,621. Yet bizarrely, this spotless Fiat Blue car - which is just 47,000 miles old - is on sale for £25,950. Go figure.

Not an insignificant amount by any stretch - reflecting the value rise all classics have enjoyed recently - but the 124 must surely offer all the Italian style, zest and brio that most could want. And yes, that is three for your 'Italian car cliche' bingo card. Plus, let's be honest, there's no danger of a passer-by bringing up the MX-5 with this one, either...


SPECIFICATIONS - FIAT 124 SPIDER

Engine: 1,995cc, four-cyl
Transmission: 5-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power(hp): 102@5,500rpm
Torque(lb ft): 110@N/Arpm
MPG: N/A
CO2: N/A
First registered: 1982
Recorded mileage: 47,217
Price new: N/A
Yours for: £25,950

See the original advert here.


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Iamnotkloot

Original Poster:

1,426 posts

147 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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Lovely looking thing and, yes, it does represent Fiat at its best.

viggyp

1,917 posts

135 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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Beautiful classic style with a beautiful classic engine.

aston addict

423 posts

158 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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Preeety car.

s m

23,226 posts

203 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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Paul Horrell, the journo at Motortrend, used to have one of these when he was on the writing staff for CAR magazine in the early 90s.
Dark blue one iirc, there were little updates in the 'Our Cars' section

AMGSee55

634 posts

102 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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What a lovely thing! The ride height is set I presume to meet US bumper (fender) regs, so a couple of inches off them and it would be perfection - still great as it is though, Italy doing what it does best cool

cookie1600

2,116 posts

161 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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AMGSee55 said:
What a lovely thing! The ride height is set I presume to meet US bumper (fender) regs, so a couple of inches off them and it would be perfection - still great as it is though, Italy doing what it does best cool
Put a few weeks and some £'s in the very capable hands of Guy Croft in Lincoln, you'll have a gorgeous car that will also show a new 124 Abarth the way home

Andrew-396pl

28 posts

66 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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i had a early version with the 1608cc engine and it was right hand drive......
White / red leather / no front bumper / rear quater bumpers / headlamp grills / Abarth exhaust - when the engine was re-built it went like the proverbial stabbed rat.
It was fantastic in relation to TR6's and MGB's we drove as our starter classics 5 speed gearbox, independent wishbone suspension all round - disc brakes all round.....BUT it broke down so often it was stupid
It was remarked on that it even looked good on the bed of a recovery truck.
Spent a large fortune to make it perfect - for it to catch fire and melt in front of me

coppice

8,610 posts

144 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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And its hardtop cousin the near forgotten Fiat Sport Coupe (not the Bangle one , which I also love ) is even lovelier . 1608 cc twin cam , 5 speed box in Positano yellow please .

BVB

1,102 posts

153 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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Stunning car. Magnificent engine.

Mr Tidy

22,334 posts

127 months

Thursday 13th December 2018
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Stunning car - the Italians built some brilliant cars back in the 70s.

I love it, but that seems dear to me. I'm sure I read somewhere on here about a 124 Coupe and a 130 Coupe in the last couple of days that were both less than £10,000. I'd love any one of those - maybe I need to buy a Euromillions ticket for tomorrow then I could have all 3. laugh

But that Spider doesn't have the best engine IMO. The 1.8 version was a bored out 1.6, but the 2.0 was a 1.8 with a longer stroke so the 1.8 revved better, and was rated at 118 bhp in the last generation Coupe in European spec.

I had a 125 in the late 70s and a 132 1800ES in the early 80s - loved them. Looked at a 124 Coupe, but ended up buying a Rover V8 - seduced by power!

Andrew-396pl

28 posts

66 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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my 1608 run nearly 150bhp after a spectacularly expensive rebuild by Middle Barton Garage. The owner of MBG picked me up in his Strada 130 and proceeded to scare the living daylights out of me.....
The 1608 loved to rev and the handling was very good - street ahead of its contemporaries.

viggyp

1,917 posts

135 months

Friday 14th December 2018
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Andrew-396pl said:
my 1608 run nearly 150bhp after a spectacularly expensive rebuild by Middle Barton Garage. The owner of MBG picked me up in his Strada 130 and proceeded to scare the living daylights out of me.....
The 1608 loved to rev and the handling was very good - street ahead of its contemporaries.
The Strada Abarth 130TC had the best version of the Lampredi Twin Cam lump (I'm not including the reverse port 16v/16v turbo's).

sr.guiri

479 posts

89 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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I bought one of these in red in about 2007, it was the later 80s version with that glorious 2L twin cam engine and fuel injection. Rosso Red with a beige interior, as you can imagine it was gorgeous.

Some months into it, a friend of mine took a photo of me in it, with the roof down.....I should correct that, it was a photo of me ON IT.......seriously, I didn't realise how ridiculous I looked in this car - I didn't sit in the car, I sat on it. I looked like a massive bloke who'd borrowed his wife's car - I'm not a big guy - 180cm and 80kg. From that moment on it was never driven with the roof down.

The car was promptly sold to a guy who wanted it to cruise around Mallorca. Perhaps where the car should've been in the first place - not crumby old, rainy, pot holed Oxfordshire where I was at the time. laugh

I never met the buyer but I hope he was less than about 165cm and 65kg, or that it was a gift for his minuscule wife/teenage daughter laugh



Nice, no? Until you climb into it....... laugh After seeing the photo of me in it, the Merc in the background became the car of choice smile

sr.guiri

479 posts

89 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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I've just read the article properly. 25K this is going for. I sold mine in 2007 for 6.5K - DAMMIT!!!!!!!!

The Merc 300SE W126 in the background I sold that too, same year, for 1500 quid...I don't want to know how much they are now mad

Meanwhile - I've made jack st on my house that I bought the same year. Thanks, Brexit mad

Advice to the youth out there reading this - don't sweat that you can't buy a house, stick your money into old cars. The Focus RS up for sale on this forum would be a good place to start wink

Pereldh

542 posts

112 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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I'm sorry Pistonheads you're wrong again, the 124 Spider Volumex (1984-85) is the one to have.
Euro-version, supercharged, carburetted,135hp (easily tuned..) and more importantly, rack/pinion steering.







Re the 2-litre engine in the article, that was the US version with very low compression - hence 102hp. The same engine in the (non-US) Argenta developed 122hp, with still pretty low compression.


Edited by Pereldh on Friday 11th January 13:15

Greg the Fish

1,410 posts

66 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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Pereldh said:
I'm sorry Pistonheads you're wrong again, the 124 Spider Volumex (1984-85) is the one to have.
Euro-version, supercharged, carburatted,135hp (easily tuned..) and more importantly, rack/pinion steering.







Re the 2-litre engine in the article, that was the US version with very low compression - hence 102hp. The same engine in the (non-US) Argenta developed 122hp, with still pretty low compression.

Edited by Pereldh on Friday 11th January 10:36


Edited by Pereldh on Friday 11th January 10:37
Not as pretty.


Pereldh

542 posts

112 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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Well thats a matter of taste of course. I for one think it's much cooler and in fact a much better car - hence the skyrocket classified listings..
Only the original Abarth Rally cost more:

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Edited by Pereldh on Friday 11th January 13:17