RE: Subaru Legacy Spec B: Spotted

RE: Subaru Legacy Spec B: Spotted

Tuesday 8th January

Subaru Legacy Spec B: Spotted

In need of winter wheels? This flat-six Legacy is a leftfield option that might just tempt...



There can't be anything that says as much about the changing face of fast cars than the demise of the sports saloon. A little over a decade ago your fast four door at around Β£25k could have had an atmospheric flat six like this Subaru Legacy 3.0R, a straight six in a BMW 3 Series, a V6 in a Mondeo ST220, a four-cylinder turbo in a Mazda 6 MPS or even a V8 in an MG ZT. Those and many more, surely.

As the 2020s approach, though, nothing is arguably less fashionable than a performance orientated four-door family saloon at anything less than BMW M3 level. Those that do endure are typically now four-cylinder only as well. Shame.


But then, let's be honest, the cars never sold especially well, did they? Premium aspirations were well under way by the mid 2000s, meaning the mainstream manufacturers were already struggling in a sector so often dominated by the Germans. And nowadays as new prospects, cars like the Subaru would be seen as lacking torque, a bit boring to look at and, crucially, not riding high enough.

Still, for those after a more traditional approach to the fast family car, there's a lot to be said for this Legacy. Ordinary styling might not pull in the fashionable buyers new, but it means a discreet way into a 150mph saloon secondhand. Furthermore, while durability and reliability are not exactly sexy topics in the showroom, a car that can be depended on a decade and a half later is much appreciated by a later owner. Plus, the fact, let's not forget, that this is a Legacy with a bit of Impreza influence, worthwhile upgrades including Bilstein dampers and the timeless appeal of a large capacity engine unsullied by forced induction. Sure, the 3.0R wasn't the sharpest Subaru of all time, but it shouldn't be discounted.

This one is particularly worthy of attention. One of the biggest drawbacks to a 3.0R is the prohibitive tax band that later cars fall into; nobody wants to pay a chunk of the purchase price on road tax year after year. But as a car registered in 2005, this Legacy costs only - all things being relative - Β£290 per annum. It has the manual gearbox, too, which is welcome, and appears to be in reasonable order. It's even averaging nearly 30mpg...


And the best bit? It's Β£2,500. Otherwise known as really not much money at all. Sure, the mileage is comfortably into six figures and it sounds like there aren't as many receipts as you'd like to see, but this still appears very interesting. Research similar cars at this money and it's typically older, scabbier, less interesting BMWs, Jags and Lexuses that are found - the Subaru shines bright in every sense amongst that selection.

So for those in need of some tough and affordable winter wheels, fearing a repeat of last winter, there surely can't be much to surpass the Legacy 3.0R. It'll be better to drive than a dedicated off-roader, more capable in adverse conditions than many similar saloons and probably the most reliable of the lot. And possibly even the cheapest. You saw it here first...


SUBARU LEGACY 3.0R SPEC B

Engine: 3,000cc boxer six
Transmission: 6-speed manual, four-wheel drive
Power (hp): 245@6,600rpm
Torque (lb ft): 219@4,200rpm
MPG: 24.1mpg (NEDC combined)
CO2: 280g/km
First registered: 2005
Recorded mileage: 115,000
Price new: Β£26,500
Yours for: Β£2,500

See the original advert here.

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Hairymonster

Original Poster:

502 posts

53 months

Tuesday 8th January
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Excellent car - I've always had a soft spot for these.

Bladedancer

998 posts

144 months

Tuesday 8th January
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Great cars these. Just don't go for the automatic unless you really have to as the box dampens the car's "spirit" quite a bit.

Servicing isn't too expensive (for a 3 liter) and they are generally reliable. As far as fuel consumption goes, on a run you get highlow 30s and around town low 20s. (with auto box)

Edited by Bladedancer on Tuesday 8th January 07:24


Edited by Bladedancer on Wednesday 9th January 13:43

mcpoot

170 posts

55 months

Tuesday 8th January
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That won't impress Eric. It's not a facelift and they are so much rarer!

Krikkit

16,768 posts

129 months

Tuesday 8th January
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Looks a great car, but Subaru parts availability puts me off massively: If you wanted to do anything but run this into the ground, it could be very expensive and tricky.

Big GT

702 posts

40 months

Tuesday 8th January
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Weapon of choice for those hunting down 118d's

simonrockman

5,827 posts

203 months

Tuesday 8th January
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I've an estate version of one of these. It's been very solid, just had the 150k service and winter tyres fitted.

The only time I've seen anything over 30mpg was a trip from London to Liverpool where I was gameifying fuel economy. The rest of the time I see mid 20s, and if I drive across London it's high teens.

It's very satisfying to drive, a nice mix of toys and comfort with power and agility.

Cambs_Stuart

681 posts

32 months

Tuesday 8th January
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Krikkit said:
Looks a great car, but Subaru parts availability puts me off massively: If you wanted to do anything but run this into the ground, it could be very expensive and tricky.
Never had a problem with spare parts. Import car parts and AS performance carry most items.
Even Euro car parts have water pumps, brake pads, etc. Only part I ever struggled with was a high pressure hose from the power steering pump, and I needed up getting a replacement made at a local pirtek.
UKlegacy.com is a mine of useful contacts, parts and advice.

BuzzBravado

2,782 posts

119 months

Tuesday 8th January
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I agree. Had an import TT GTB and could still get anything i wanted. Parts are easy to get, they are just a bit pricey.

Charlie Michael

2,740 posts

132 months

Tuesday 8th January
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Is that a cassette deck on the dash?

Had a chance to look at one of these a couple of years ago. Shame that it hadn't been looked after otherwise it would've had space on my drive.

Collaudatore

914 posts

150 months

Tuesday 8th January
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Article says:

Recorded mileage: 115,000
Price new: £26,500
Yours for: £6,490

See the original advert here.


Advert says: £2500


FWIW, I'd happily have that.




Charlie Michael

2,740 posts

132 months

Tuesday 8th January
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MrGeoff

315 posts

120 months

Tuesday 8th January
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Collaudatore said:
Article says:

Recorded mileage: 115,000
Price new: £26,500
Yours for: £6,490

See the original advert here.


Advert says: £2500


FWIW, I'd happily have that.
Was going to say...

Seem to remember seeing a lot of these in Ireland, and the plate fits.

Cambs_Stuart

681 posts

32 months

Tuesday 8th January
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Charlie Michael said:
Is that a cassette deck on the dash?

Had a chance to look at one of these a couple of years ago. Shame that it hadn't been looked after otherwise it would've had space on my drive.
Even better. I think it's a minidisc player.

Krikkit

16,768 posts

129 months

Tuesday 8th January
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Cambs_Stuart said:
Krikkit said:
Looks a great car, but Subaru parts availability puts me off massively: If you wanted to do anything but run this into the ground, it could be very expensive and tricky.
Never had a problem with spare parts. Import car parts and AS performance carry most items.
Even Euro car parts have water pumps, brake pads, etc. Only part I ever struggled with was a high pressure hose from the power steering pump, and I needed up getting a replacement made at a local pirtek.
UKlegacy.com is a mine of useful contacts, parts and advice.
I'm speaking from running a clutch of Outbacks, so the Legacy may be different (although a lot of parts are common), but things like exhausts, suspension components, gearbox spares, some engine sensors, and interior trim have all proved extremely tricky to get, and hilariously expensive going through Subaru.

In fact, I had to abandon buying an exhaust and make a repair section myself.

RB Will

5,807 posts

188 months

Tuesday 8th January
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Bladedancer said:
As far as fuel consumption goes, on a run you get high 30s
How were you managing that? I have always been a defender of these when people say about dire fuel economy and my real world MPGs were normally above what anyone else gets but even I never got more than 31-32mpg even on a gentle run (had one auto and one manual)


Cambs_Stuart said:
Charlie Michael said:
Is that a cassette deck on the dash?

Had a chance to look at one of these a couple of years ago. Shame that it hadn't been looked after otherwise it would've had space on my drive.
Even better. I think it's a minidisc player.
Would have thought tape. I had 2 of these and both had tape decks. I think Subaru and Mazda were the last people still putting them in cars. Its also a 6 cd changer in the dash not just a single

CharlieAlphaMike

424 posts

53 months

Tuesday 8th January
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Charlie Michael said:
That one doesn't have the H6 engine though frown

CharlieAlphaMike

424 posts

53 months

Tuesday 8th January
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mcpoot said:
That won't impress Eric. It's not a facelift and they are so much rarer!
And so much better IMHO. I had a late model in estate form and with the 'flappy paddles'. Yes, I know, it's just a basic automatic with paddles but I liked it because I thought the auto box suited the car.

Great cars. I'd have another without hesitation.

CharlieAlphaMike

424 posts

53 months

Tuesday 8th January
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Charlie Michael said:
Is that a cassette deck on the dash?
It's an 'in dash' cd stacker. Mine (a later model estate) also had a USB port for playing 'tunes' from another music device thumbup

Reeves_and_Mortimer

36 posts

30 months

Tuesday 8th January
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Decent amount of car for the money and imho, so much more interesting than the default BMW/Merc/Jags of the day and in really bad weather, a lot more capable too. Had an Outback Estate 2.5 which was an auto but just a nice big comfortable car. It just bounced along, going nowhere fast.

I'm sure the 3.0l manual is a lot more focused. Completely classless too but as with most Subaru's, quite cool purely by it's rarity.

S100HP

10,411 posts

115 months

Tuesday 8th January
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CharlieAlphaMike said:
And so much better IMHO. I had a late model in estate form and with the 'flappy paddles'. Yes, I know, it's just a basic automatic with paddles but I liked it because I thought the auto box suited the car.

Great cars. I'd have another without hesitation.
Interesting. I've often looked at them but for some reason looked away.

do they rust as much as the Impreza?