RE: Renaultsport Clio 182: PH Fleet

RE: Renaultsport Clio 182: PH Fleet

Friday 8th February

Renaultsport Clio 182: PH Fleet

The 182 has recovered from a sort-of breakdown, and will soon receive some new parts...



It happened on one of the busiest stretches of road, the bit where everyone parks up outside the restaurants and cafes and shows off their flash cars. The Clio broke down. Well, it was technically still working, as the engine was running, but I couldn't engage first gear. I had to get out, push it along the high street and down a side road 50 metres away. It must have been quite a funny sight.

I thought the culprit was a broken clutch cable, as the 'ping' that preceded the clutch pedal going limp suggested to me that the wire had broken. But it turned out to be the little metal linkage that clips onto the back of the clutch pedal via a ball joint. After 125,000 miles, the ball had worn itself loose, leaving me with no ability to disengage the clutch and slip from neutral to first. Cue bright blue Clio and its shiny wheels causing a minor traffic jam on the A111.


While I spent 20 minutes scratching my head after getting the car off the main road, it took only a quick phone conversation with the old man (who's also an experienced mechanic) to decipher how easy the fix would actually be. Simply rotating the thumb-sized metal arm on the back of the pedal 180 degrees, so the worn ball was now on the unstressed side of the mechanism, meant it popped back into place like new. I've effectively doubled the part's life span. The joys of old French rattleboxes.

After I'd learned to trust that the clutch wouldn't throw a wobbly and leave me stranded, the rest of my Christmas break - yes, it's been a while since I've written a 182 fleet update - was spent using the Clio almost every day. It started on the key every time and cost pennies to run, but I must admit it wasn't quite the easy daily driver my younger self used to frequently brag it was.


The Yozzasport exhaust, for example, was often quite tiring because such a large percentage of its 98 decibels can reach the eardrum with little interruption, what with there being next to no furniture in the back of the car. And the Bilstein B14 coilovers, sweet as they make the car handle, can never provide the sort of cushioned ride a tired, mince pie-stuffed driver so desires during the festive period. As a daily driver, this modified 182 was, if I'm honest, a bit too much.

Which is why in the month and a bit that's followed, I've promoted the Clio back to weekend toy. Driving modern press cars during the week makes jumping into this raw, loud and hyperactive hot hatch genuinely elating. Don't use the Clio for a week or two and it's easy to forget just how quick it is; perhaps the feeling of pace is helped by the raspy exhaust note and the way in which the motor builds and builds with energy as the revs rise. Either way, it's a real joy to drive properly and leaves me buzzing as soon as the nose passes a national speed limit sign.


In order to enhance this part of the car's character I've ordered a rear anti-roll bar from Whiteline, something a few helpful PHers have recommended in order to sharpen handling further. Whiteline says its metal bar increases grip, but the main draw to it was promise from other 182 owners of enhanced adjustability - aka more potential for lift-off oversteer. Because since lowering the Clio on its coilivers, the centre of gravity has been pulled closer to the ground, making the back end a bit too planted for my liking. I'm told that the Whiteline ARB will make the balance a bit, erm, lively. For a car that so eagerly responds to steering inputs, that sounds rather exciting to me.

FACT SHEET

Car: 2004 Renault Clio Renaultsport 182
Run by: Sam Sheehan
Bought: May 2011
Mileage at purchase: 74,457
Mileage now: 125,680
Last month at a glance: It's no Christmas cruiser, but back on the open road (and working properly) the Clio remains a joy...

Previous reports:
A Clio joins the fleet
The wheel refurb
Back on track
PH Sporting Tour

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Turbobanana

Original Poster:

1,471 posts

146 months

Friday 8th February
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Had the same thing happen to me about 25 years ago - albeit on the accelerator - on a Citroën 2CV exiting a roundabout.

Most cars, especially diesels, plod along happily on the torque generated at tick over. Not a 2CV, of course, which ground to a halt immediately. Fixed it in exactly the same way as you fixed the Clio, and never had the problem again.

charltjr

3,608 posts

140 months

Friday 8th February
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The Whiteline rear ARB is a good bit of kit. It’s more subtle than you might expect, even on the hardest setting, but it makes a noticeable difference.

lee_erm

807 posts

138 months

Friday 8th February
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Exact same thing happened to me a few years ago. Started the car in 2nd and managed to rev match the couple of miles home.

Sam Sheehan

36 posts

82 months

Friday 8th February
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I must admit I'm still a little nervous to press the clutch quickly, in case the part pops off again. Good to hear it's not just this old Clio that has had the same issue.

I'm hoping to get the ARB fitted during the weekend after this one, so long as the weather improves.. I assume it'd be wisest to start on the softest setting and gradually work up in these cold climates.

Some owners proclaim it's the best thing they've done to their 172/182!

Robmarriott

1,777 posts

103 months

Friday 8th February
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A Whiteline ARB is the one thing I've NOT done on mine, I've considered it but I'm afraid it'd make it too loose at the back. (mine is purely for trackdays and has coilovers, adjustable top mounts, black powerflex bushes everywhere and the springs are different poundage to what the coilovers originally came with)

Do you have a close up of the steering wheel button setup Sam? I'm assuming you've fitted them for the horn which I need to do really but can't find a neat way to do it.

Sam Sheehan

36 posts

82 months

Friday 8th February
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Robmarriott said:
A Whiteline ARB is the one thing I've NOT done on mine, I've considered it but I'm afraid it'd make it too loose at the back. (mine is purely for trackdays and has coilovers, adjustable top mounts, black powerflex bushes everywhere and the springs are different poundage to what the coilovers originally came with)

Do you have a close up of the steering wheel button setup Sam? I'm assuming you've fitted them for the horn which I need to do really but can't find a neat way to do it.
That sounds like a great setup. Bushes are on my to do list as I suspect the rubber ones will be a bit soft after 20,000 miles since their last refresh.

The buttons are actually for the cruise control, as I've retained a horn in the centre of the wheel - see pic below. The chap who makes the buttons and sleeve is great, it's an easy plug and play installation. You can reach him through his Facebook page here: https://www.facebook.com/volantechuk


charltjr

3,608 posts

140 months

Saturday 9th February
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If you’ve got adjustable coilovers you shouldn’t really need the rear ARB, you can change the balance of the car through the alignment and damping settings.

Honestly, the whiteline isn’t that aggressive, it doesn’t turn the car into anything remotely unstable even on the hardest setting. It takes a lot of understeer out of the car and makes it easier to bring the back end into play - that’s it.

Still the single best mod I did to mine.

Maldini35

2,160 posts

133 months

Saturday 9th February
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charltjr said:
If you’ve got adjustable coilovers you shouldn’t really need the rear ARB, you can change the balance of the car through the alignment and damping settings.

Honestly, the whiteline isn’t that aggressive, it doesn’t turn the car into anything remotely unstable even on the hardest setting. It takes a lot of understeer out of the car and makes it easier to bring the back end into play - that’s it.

Still the single best mod I did to mine.
Does sound good - is your Whiteline 19mm?

Ph1listine

843 posts

45 months

Saturday 9th February
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Same thing happened to mine. Why didn't you just set off in 2nd?

Noesph

828 posts

94 months

Sunday 10th February
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I remember seeing this years ago.

https://www.askthemechanic.co.uk/shop/twingo/29-re...

Always kept in the back of my head, just in case....

charltjr

3,608 posts

140 months

Sunday 10th February
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Maldini35 said:
Does sound good - is your Whiteline 19mm?
https://www.demon-tweeks.com/uk/whiteline-performance-adjustable-anti-roll-bar-whibrr10z/

It was that one, the 18mm adjustable.

Other vendors are available, etc wink

Maldini35

2,160 posts

133 months

Sunday 10th February
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charltjr said:
Maldini35 said:
Does sound good - is your Whiteline 19mm?
https://www.demon-tweeks.com/uk/whiteline-performance-adjustable-anti-roll-bar-whibrr10z/

It was that one, the 18mm adjustable.

Other vendors are available, etc wink
Great - thanks

Will give it a try.

majorjoy

52 posts

14 months

Sunday 10th February
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Sam Sheehan said:
I must admit I'm still a little nervous to press the clutch quickly, in case the part pops off again. Good to hear it's not just this old Clio that has had the same issue.

I'm hoping to get the ARB fitted during the weekend after this one, so long as the weather improves.. I assume it'd be wisest to start on the softest setting and gradually work up in these cold climates.

Some owners proclaim it's the best thing they've done to their 172/182!
My 172 is on B14's with the Whiteline arb and it takes the handling to the level of telepathic!
Just back from a great hoon round The Dales after not being out in it for a few weeks and as you say it's easy to forget what special little machines they are.

blade7

8,834 posts

161 months

Sunday 10th February
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Turbobanana said:
Had the same thing happen to me about 25 years ago - albeit on the accelerator - on a Citroën 2CV exiting a roundabout.

Most cars, especially diesels, plod along happily on the torque generated at tick over. Not a 2CV, of course, which ground to a halt immediately. Fixed it in exactly the same way as you fixed the Clio, and never had the problem again.
Throttle cable snapped on my TR7 about 35 years ago, I turned up the idle to 2k and limped the 5 miles home. A couple of pushbikes overtook me frown.

Batfink

1,014 posts

203 months

Monday 11th February
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The rear ARB is great for a more road based coilover setup or someone sticking with springs and dampers which has a softer spring and damper setup than something focused towards track. Last thing you want is the rear to be skipping over the bumps. Whiteline does not really adjust in reality the same way as its competitor - the Pure Motorsport RARB as it does not hard mount to the chassis but for a fit and forget road setup its cheaper and certainly makes a difference.