RE: 812 Superfast Nordschleife lap: Time For Coffee

RE: 812 Superfast Nordschleife lap: Time For Coffee

Friday 8th February

812 Superfast Nordschleife lap: Time For Coffee?

Make the espresso thick and turn the volume up loud - Ferrari's 800hp flagship takes to the Nurburgring



The Ferrari 812 Superfast made quite an impression last year; sufficiently so for it to be included in our favourite cars half-dozen of 2018, in fact. The combination of a ferociously potent V12 with a chassis just about capable of containing it made for something truly thrilling. The layout might have suggested GT, but the experience was full on, unadulterated, outrageous supercar ecstasy.

So with sportauto recently publishing its own Nordschleife hot lap with an 812, it just had to be featured. As another lap recorded last summer, conditions are perfect and driving responsibility is in the ever-capable hands of Christian Gebhardt - you wouldn't want to change a thing.

Even as seven-and-a-bit-minute Nurburgring videos go - we'll leave you to find out the time below - the 812's lap is a compelling watch. Largely for the fury that engine delivers to the road - 280km/h on the way to Schwedenkreuz and 300km/h down the Dottinger-Hohe - but also for just how capable a big, pretty heavy car is on a track as demanding as the Nordschleife, using a fairly ordinary (by the standards of fast cars) P Zero Corsa. It's not the lurching, tyre smoking, oversteering mad thing you might expect, a credit to just what's been achieved with the Superfast. From what can be seen in the vid the car is running in Race mode as well; it really is clever enough to use for a 110 per cent hot lap, one within three seconds of Ferrari's official time.

Therefore this isn't so much advice as a declaration: watch this 812 Superfast video, and marvel at just what the V12 Ferrari flagship is now capable of. Or, if there's actually work to be done, just leave that soundtrack running and the headphones plugged in...

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wab172uk

Original Poster:

1,392 posts

173 months

Friday 8th February
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cooldrivingbow

Turbobanana

1,494 posts

147 months

Friday 8th February
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I don't normally watch "Time for Coffee" videos because I'm at work, but as I am recovering from a broken leg I have the opportunity.

Great vid, lovely sound.

Interesting how hunched the driver looks behind the wheel. I realise the Go Pro wide angle exaggerates it a bit, and I like to sit quite upright / close to the wheel myself, but that just looked uncomfortable.

Can't argue with the results though...

Baddie

345 posts

163 months

Friday 8th February
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Cool video, great car.

Can someone more versed with the ‘Ring explain why the LFA went round faster years ago with more than 200 HP less and only about 100kg lighter?

AmosMoses

3,402 posts

111 months

Friday 8th February
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Baddie said:
Cool video, great car.

Can someone more versed with the ‘Ring explain why the LFA went round faster years ago with more than 200 HP less and only about 100kg lighter?
Downforce would be my guess.

phast

106 posts

165 months

Friday 8th February
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wasted opportunity to make the video 8:12 long.

Jex

542 posts

74 months

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phast said:
wasted opportunity to make the video 8:12 long.
smile

Onehp

1,111 posts

229 months

Friday 8th February
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Being 'only' on corsa tyres, a fine time. And more importantly, an enjoyable lap, that big NA looks very easy to modulate with a little extra slip angle, oh the joy...

Mackofthejungle

839 posts

141 months

Friday 8th February
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Baddie said:
Cool video, great car.

Can someone more versed with the ‘Ring explain why the LFA went round faster years ago with more than 200 HP less and only about 100kg lighter?
The guy in the LFA took more risks, used cheat tyres, the usual nonsense.

Nurburgring laptimes mean pretty much nothing, they're just fun to watch.

C.MW

171 posts

15 months

Friday 8th February
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Baddie said:
Cool video, great car.

Can someone more versed with the ‘Ring explain why the LFA went round faster years ago with more than 200 HP less and only about 100kg lighter?
Simply because the LFA is the better car. One of the best supercars of all time vs just another v12 fezza... No comparison here.

Edited by C.MW on Friday 8th February 11:27

Ruskins

204 posts

67 months

Friday 8th February
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you make a v12 Fezza sound like a beige VW Golf....

Steven_RW

1,014 posts

148 months

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Ruskins said:
you make a v12 Fezza sound like a beige VW Golf....
hehehe..

J4CKO

28,233 posts

146 months

Friday 8th February
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Onehp said:
Being 'only' on corsa tyres, a fine time. And more importantly, an enjoyable lap, that big NA looks very easy to modulate with a little extra slip angle, oh the joy...
Corsa Tyres, 195 65 15 ?

They want to try some bigger, Ferrari sized tyres, would be much faster !

nickfrog

10,290 posts

163 months

Friday 8th February
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C.MW said:
Simply because the LFA is the better car. One of the best supercars of all time vs just another v12 fezza... No comparison here.
What do you drive around the Ring ?

Ruskins

204 posts

67 months

Friday 8th February
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nickfrog said:
C.MW said:
Simply because the LFA is the better car. One of the best supercars of all time vs just another v12 fezza... No comparison here.
What do you drive around the Ring ?
Anything less than a Koenigsegg is not worth the time ...

J4CKO

28,233 posts

146 months

Friday 8th February
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nickfrog said:
C.MW said:
Simply because the LFA is the better car. One of the best supercars of all time vs just another v12 fezza... No comparison here.
What do you drive around the Ring ?
That is either quite a personal question or could do with further qualification.

big_rob_sydney

2,367 posts

140 months

Friday 8th February
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Looked like a lot of hard work. Also, the speed reported on the top left of the screen was often way different to the readout on the glovebox.

Must admit, I skipped a lot of that as it just didn't excite me that much.

nickfrog

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J4CKO said:
That is either quite a personal question or could do with further qualification.
laugh
I did use a Capital letter...

nickfrog

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163 months

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Baddie said:
Can someone more versed with the ‘Ring explain why the LFA went round faster years ago with more than 200 HP less and only about 100kg lighter?
A combination of law if diminishing returns, better traction out of a mid engine layout, different tyres, perhaps different gearing, perhaps different track conditions.

isaldiri

4,900 posts

114 months

Friday 8th February
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C.MW said:
Baddie said:
Cool video, great car.

Can someone more versed with the ‘Ring explain why the LFA went round faster years ago with more than 200 HP less and only about 100kg lighter?
Simply because the LFA is the better car. One of the best supercars of all time vs just another v12 fezza... No comparison here.
I love the LFA but when SportAuto took one around the 'ring (ie a closer comparison) it only did 7:38. Albeit that was with a slower driver than Gebhardt and the track has gotten quicker. you can't compare SportAuto laps vs factory ones usually.

On a comparable tyre I think it's probably if run back to back run today, the LFA would give the 812 a closer run than the raw specs might suggest.

Onehp

1,111 posts

229 months

Friday 8th February
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nickfrog said:
A combination of law if diminishing returns, better traction out of a mid engine layout, different tyres, perhaps different gearing, perhaps different track conditions.
None are mid engine... By similar standards, they are roughly equally fast apparently from the post above...