RE: New Stratos gets manual option

RE: New Stratos gets manual option

Thursday 14th February 2019

New Stratos gets manual option

Thought the MAT Stratos was desirable already? Now it's even more so



If it feels like the 'new Stratos' saga has been dragging on for a while now, you're not wrong; though PH only drove the car in August last year, it had been in development for nigh-on a decade. There were spy shots in 2010, a video in 2011 and all sorts of conjecture since then. But at Geneva in March, makers MAT will exhibit the first two customer cars, as seen here.

One is destined for a German owner, the other for North America. It's not known yet which of the two is going where, though forced to guess we'd imagine the Alitalia rep is going Stateside. But the prospect of customer cars finally being ready is arguably not the biggest news from MAT at Geneva; that will be the launch of a manual gearbox option.


As you'll probably be aware, the Stratos is built from a Ferrari 430 Scuderia, which was only ever offered with an automated manual paddleshift gearbox. However, the regular F430 was available - indeed, it was fitted as standard - with a manual gearbox. MAT evidently has the six-speed hooked up with the more powerful V8 from the Scud, to potentially create the mid-engined Italian supercar of our dreams.

Top Gear's story includes a quote from the Stratos' builders, which only makes the car sound more desirable: "With this option MAT is offering a unique experience combining the massive, well controlled torque of the naturally aspirated V8 with the excitement of the manual transmission, an experience that is less and less available on modern sport cars." They're not wrong on that score, either; the only similar combination we can think of is a Corvette...


So while not all new, the promise of a manual Stratos looks like being one of the Geneva highlights in 2019. And probably one of the most expensive. Still, the good stuff never did come cheap...

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PhantomPH

Original Poster:

4,043 posts

225 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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I think if I was in a position to pay the money, I would have to ask them to do something about the headlights...but that's literally all I would change. biggrinbiggrinbiggrin

viggyp

1,917 posts

135 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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PhantomPH said:
I think if I was in a position to pay the money, I would have to ask them to do something about the headlights...but that's literally all I would change. biggrinbiggrinbiggrin
I know what you mean although the angle goes well with the arches. I think it looks better in the original black it came out in.

RemyMartin81D

6,759 posts

205 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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Blimey the AliItalia livery. cloud9

P.s just me who used to read it in their head as Alligator when they were a kid?

Alfahol Addict

1,350 posts

165 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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I want that so badly it almost hurts.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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Nice, don't know much about them, nor even heard much about them before tbh.

My money would go here though.... one day hopefully cloud9

https://www.listerbell.com/


RemyMartin81D

6,759 posts

205 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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Jesus Christ. That link....

Cotty

39,540 posts

284 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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RemyMartin81D said:
Blimey the AliItalia livery. cloud9
Does look bloody lovely

matrignano

4,370 posts

210 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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PhantomPH said:
I think if I was in a position to pay the money, I would have to ask them to do something about the headlights...but that's literally all I would change. biggrinbiggrinbiggrin
They are F430 headlights.
Apparently making bespoke head/taillights is incredibly expensive as they need to be homologated.

Using the donor car's headlights solves that problems and it least you retain some "authenticity". And I think they look ok

Miserablegit

4,021 posts

109 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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RemyMartin81D said:
Blimey the AliItalia livery. cloud9

P.s just me who used to read it in their head as Alligator when they were a kid?
No, I thought it was Italian for Aligator as a child!
I had a really bad rc car of an Alitalia liveried one as a child. The remote control consisted of a metal clicker in a pistol grip. When you pressed the trigger it made a loud click and reversed the motor direction. It had a freewheel in a curved tracked underneath so that when it went forward the wheel sat in the straight bit and the car went forward. In reverse the freewheel moved along the track in the chassis and caused the car to turn. Possibly the worst way to control a toy known to man.
one of these : https://www.vectis.co.uk/eagleton-hong-kong-sonic-...

Amirhussain

11,489 posts

163 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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Looks like it’s having a ‘moment’ laugh


big_rob_sydney

3,402 posts

194 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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I just wish FCA would bring the car back in a modern form from the factory.

Considering all the "retro" cars we've seen so far, you would think there would be a market for this. Just look at all the great raw materials they have at their disposal. They could raid the Ferrari back catalogue and position this pretty much wherever it suited them. As long as it didnt cannibalise sales??

viggyp

1,917 posts

135 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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big_rob_sydney said:
I just wish FCA would bring the car back in a modern form from the factory.

Considering all the "retro" cars we've seen so far, you would think there would be a market for this. Just look at all the great raw materials they have at their disposal. They could raid the Ferrari back catalogue and position this pretty much wherever it suited them. As long as it didnt cannibalise sales??
Agreed. FCA are a weird company. They replace Ferrari models at a greater rate then they do Fiats and Alfas.

I'd love to see this, a new Fulvia and a new Integrale but that will never happen.

DeejRC

5,793 posts

82 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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FCA have done. It’s called the 4C. Something that takes a whole 2 mins of driving a 4C to realise if you are even vaguely a Lancia geek.

flatso

1,240 posts

129 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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Its getting to be an event that a sports car gets a manual box...sad!
Lovely looking machine

cramorra

1,665 posts

235 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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what a swansong for NA V8
want - and if it's the last drop of V-Max that would be a good place to pour it.....

Leggy

1,019 posts

222 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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10 years in development, take note TVR deposit holders!

JMF894

5,504 posts

155 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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Shame flip up headlights are no longer allowed

_Leg_

2,798 posts

211 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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JMF894 said:
Shame flip up headlights are no longer allowed
I thought they had just gone out of fashion? Not allowed? Damn you Health and Safety, damn you.

(I have a 96 Esprit V8, when I drive it I'm the politest driver on the roads as I look for any opportunity to flash people out of junctions etc just so the lights pop up hahahaha, really should grow up).

Esceptico

7,467 posts

109 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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A Lancia Stratos? Yes please

430 Scud? Yes please

A butchered 430 Scud made to resemble a Stratos? No thanks

Cold

15,247 posts

90 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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JMF894 said:
Shame flip up headlights are no longer allowed
There is no legislation specifically outlawing pop-up headlights.