RE: BMW 2 Series Gran Coupe spied
Wednesday 20th February 2019
BMW 2 Series Gran Coupe spied
The 2 Series family is growing, in every way - here's the latest
With what appeared to be an M2 Gran Coupe spotted only last month, it was only a matter of time before more ordinary variants of the four-door 2 Series emerged.
Here's the latest; given the M-branded wheels, blue brake calipers, twin exhausts and spoiler, we'd hazard a guess at this being an M Performance 2 Series GC, an M240i or similar. Given architecture is expected to be shared with the current car - it's all a little confusing, what with another 1 Series on the way - you would have to hope that the straight six and rear-drive is carried over, though the situation is unclear at present.
These latest shots do at least reveal more of the Gran Coupe shape, which is, well, as to be expected. It's like a four-door BMW, with a Hofmeister kink and stance suggesting rear-wheel drive, albeit a little swoopier than usual. Note as well the 3 Series-style headlights rear lights with some 8 Series influence.
With so much still in disguise, and relatively little known of this 2 Series at the moment, there are still a lot of gaps to fill in. At present the Gran Coupe is due in 2020, so a motor show debut at the end of the year - Frankfurt in September, for example - seems likely.
Images: S. Baldauf/S.B. Medien
Discussion
sgtbash said:
But isnt the 2 series a smaller 3 series (which is also a 4 series gran coupe) but in 2 door style, surley this is now back to 3 series?
Series
BMW's numbering is starting to get a bit confusing, but my understanding is the 2-series gran coupe is based on the 1 series. So basically you have:Series
1 series
Conventional Hatchback (3 door or 5 door)
Coupe "2-series"
Convertible "2 series"
Gran Coupe "2-series"
3 series
Saloon
Tourer
Coupe "4 series"
Convertible "4 series"
Gran Coupe "4-series"
Personally I quite like the Gran Coupe concept of having saloon styling with a practical hatchback. I drive an Audi A5 Sportback, which is the same concept.
sgtbash said:
But isnt the 2 series a smaller 3 series (which is also a 4 series gran coupe) but in 2 door style, surley this is now back to 3 series?
Series
The 4 series is for people who wanted a 3 series but also wanted a coupe. The 4 series gran coupe is for those who want a 3 series but also want 4 doors, but also want a coupe style. But who didn't want the extra size of the 6 series gran coupe. Which is for people who want a 5 series but also want a coupe style. But also want the 4 doors of the 5 series. The 2 series is for those who want something smaller than a 3 series. The 2 series gran coupe is for those who want the coupe looks of the 4 series, but with the 4 doors of a 3 series, but with the small size of the 2 series, but not as small as the 1 series.Series
It's all pretty simple.
I am waiting the 4 door version of the new 8 series, which is for those people who want the 4 doors of a 7 series, but the coupe looks of the 6 series, but with the size of the 8 series.
Squirrelofwoe said:
sgtbash said:
But isnt the 2 series a smaller 3 series (which is also a 4 series gran coupe) but in 2 door style, surley this is now back to 3 series?
Series
The 4 series is for people who wanted a 3 series but also wanted a coupe. The 4 series gran coupe is for those who want a 3 series but also want 4 doors, but also want a coupe style. But who didn't want the extra size of the 6 series gran coupe. Which is for people who want a 5 series but also want a coupe style. But also want the 4 doors of the 5 series. The 2 series is for those who want something smaller than a 3 series. The 2 series gran coupe is for those who want the coupe looks of the 4 series, but with the 4 doors of a 3 series, but with the small size of the 2 series, but not as small as the 1 series.Series
It's all pretty simple.
I am waiting the 4 door version of the new 8 series, which is for those people who want the 4 doors of a 7 series, but the coupe looks of the 6 series, but with the size of the 8 series.
Jimi.K. said:
BMW's numbering is starting to get a bit confusing, but my understanding is the 2-series gran coupe is based on the 1 series. So basically you have:
1 series
Conventional Hatchback (3 door or 5 door)
Coupe "2-series"
Convertible "2 series"
Gran Coupe "2-series"
3 series
Saloon
Tourer
Coupe "4 series"
Convertible "4 series"
Gran Coupe "4-series"
Personally I quite like the Gran Coupe concept of having saloon styling with a practical hatchback. I drive an Audi A5 Sportback, which is the same concept.
It's a bit more complex with new generation because the 1-series (and 2GT and almost certainly 2GC) are transverse engined primarily FWD cars based on broadly the same platform as the Mini; whereas the 2-series coupe and probably cabriolet are longitudinal engined cars based on a slightly cut-down 3-series platform. 1 series
Conventional Hatchback (3 door or 5 door)
Coupe "2-series"
Convertible "2 series"
Gran Coupe "2-series"
3 series
Saloon
Tourer
Coupe "4 series"
Convertible "4 series"
Gran Coupe "4-series"
Personally I quite like the Gran Coupe concept of having saloon styling with a practical hatchback. I drive an Audi A5 Sportback, which is the same concept.
In other words there will be far more in common between the 2-series coupe and the 3-series than between the 2-series coupe and 2-series Gran Coupe.
Chestrockwell said:
Squirrelofwoe said:
sgtbash said:
But isnt the 2 series a smaller 3 series (which is also a 4 series gran coupe) but in 2 door style, surley this is now back to 3 series?
Series
The 4 series is for people who wanted a 3 series but also wanted a coupe. The 4 series gran coupe is for those who want a 3 series but also want 4 doors, but also want a coupe style. But who didn't want the extra size of the 6 series gran coupe. Which is for people who want a 5 series but also want a coupe style. But also want the 4 doors of the 5 series. The 2 series is for those who want something smaller than a 3 series. The 2 series gran coupe is for those who want the coupe looks of the 4 series, but with the 4 doors of a 3 series, but with the small size of the 2 series, but not as small as the 1 series.Series
It's all pretty simple.
I am waiting the 4 door version of the new 8 series, which is for those people who want the 4 doors of a 7 series, but the coupe looks of the 6 series, but with the size of the 8 series.
cerb4.5lee said:
I also like the fact that the 4GC is a hatchback rather than a saloon opening. My 3 series was pants if you wanted to carry anything big.
It makes a lot of sense offering both. If the 2GC does end up transverse front engined arguably the closest competition for the cooking models will be the Skoda Octavia. 
Squirrelofwoe said:
The 4 series is for people who wanted a 3 series but also wanted a coupe. The 4 series gran coupe is for those who want a 3 series but also want 4 doors, but also want a coupe style. But who didn't want the extra size of the 6 series gran coupe. Which is for people who want a 5 series but also want a coupe style. But also want the 4 doors of the 5 series. The 2 series is for those who want something smaller than a 3 series. The 2 series gran coupe is for those who want the coupe looks of the 4 series, but with the 4 doors of a 3 series, but with the small size of the 2 series, but not as small as the 1 series.
It's all pretty simple.
I am waiting the 4 door version of the new 8 series, which is for those people who want the 4 doors of a 7 series, but the coupe looks of the 6 series, but with the size of the 8 series.
And the fact that the 6 series is only a 6GT now....there is no 6 coupe, cab or Gran Coupe...It's all pretty simple.
I am waiting the 4 door version of the new 8 series, which is for those people who want the 4 doors of a 7 series, but the coupe looks of the 6 series, but with the size of the 8 series.
cerb4.5lee said:
Chestrockwell said:
Squirrelofwoe said:
sgtbash said:
But isnt the 2 series a smaller 3 series (which is also a 4 series gran coupe) but in 2 door style, surley this is now back to 3 series?
Series
The 4 series is for people who wanted a 3 series but also wanted a coupe. The 4 series gran coupe is for those who want a 3 series but also want 4 doors, but also want a coupe style. But who didn't want the extra size of the 6 series gran coupe. Which is for people who want a 5 series but also want a coupe style. But also want the 4 doors of the 5 series. The 2 series is for those who want something smaller than a 3 series. The 2 series gran coupe is for those who want the coupe looks of the 4 series, but with the 4 doors of a 3 series, but with the small size of the 2 series, but not as small as the 1 series.Series
It's all pretty simple.
I am waiting the 4 door version of the new 8 series, which is for those people who want the 4 doors of a 7 series, but the coupe looks of the 6 series, but with the size of the 8 series.
SpeckledJim said:
3795mpower said:
Given the front brake calliper location I’m guessing FWD.
Genuine question: what about the brake calliper location is the giveaway?The callipers are generally at the opposite side of the upright to the track rod mounting points for packaging reasons; thus cars with the steering rack mounted on the bulkhead tend to have callipers at the front and cars with the steering rack in front of the front axle line tend to have the cappilers at the rear.
Mounting the rack in front of the axle line is "better" because it allows it to be lower down without ending up with a daft steering column angle and hence makes it easier to avoid bump-steer; however it's very difficult to route a steering column past a transverse mounted engine... the upshot of all of this is that generally speaking transverse front-engined cars have the steering rack at the back and hence the callipers at the front; cars with any other engine layout, vice versa.
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