RE: Mercedes-AMG S65 saloon to bow out

RE: Mercedes-AMG S65 saloon to bow out

Wednesday 6th March

Mercedes-AMG S65 saloon bows out: Update!

The most mega of mega barges will meet its maker - but not before a Final Edition is launched



UPDATE - 06.03.2019

It's all happening too fast. Only a few days after we found out Mercedes-AMG was to cull the V12 S-Class, the Final Edition version has been revealed in Geneva. The runout model is little different to the recently revealed SLC Final Edition: it gains top-spec kit and several unique features, so might potentially become a bit of a collectors' favourite. Particularly if this turns out to be the resting place of that colossal engine...

Painted exclusively in Obsidian Black metallic, the AMG limo gets a contrasting silver front grille and matte bronze alloy wheels with matching side skirts, while there's a bronze finish on the front bumper's lower grilles and the back bumper's lip. Eye-catching stuff, but it won't be to everyone's taste.


Additionally, there are also black exhaust tips and a plaque with the words 'One Man - One Engine' on the V12 under the bonnet - which remains unchanged, by the way. Like the 'regular S65, the Final Edition's twin-turbocharged 6.0-litre motor produces 621hp and 738lb ft of torque, enough to carry the 2.2-tonne four-door to 62mph in 4.1 seconds and onto a 186mph top speed.

Inside you get black leather upholstery and bronze trim to match the exterior's theme, as well as copper-coloured stitching and carbon fibre tinted with the same shade. In the Final Edition, a panoramic roof, adjustable rear seats and even a matching car cover are thrown in for free.

We're yet to find out what premium will be added to the standard car's £189,685 starting price in this departing model. We'd assume something that surpasses the £200k mark is inevitable - and probably justifiable for what is one of the world's last and most extravagant V12 models...

Sam Sheehan






ORIGINAL STORY - 25.02.2019


While we all knew the end was near, nobody quite expected the flagship Mercedes S-Class to disappear with such a whimper. In Mercedes' official release about the upcoming Geneva motor show, where the merits of the CLA Shooting Brake, GLC and Concept EQV are proudly proclaimed, there's a throwaway sentence about the S65. Look away now if you're feeling emotionally vulnerable on a Monday morning...

"S 65 Final Edition (combined fuel consumption: 14.2 l/100 km, combined CO2 emissions: 325 g/km), which crowns and brings to an end the long success story of the 6.0-litre V12 biturbo engine in the S-Class Saloon." That's it. Under 'Attractive special models' at the bottom of the release, mentioned after the SLC and SL Grand Edition, the final installation of the twin-turbo 6.0-litre V12 in the S-Class saloon. And, well, there's not likely to be another V12 in an S-Class now, is there?


While the demise was somewhat inevitable - the SL65 and G65 having already succumbed - it does seem a shame that the S65 must disappear almost without trace. Yes, it was always a difficult car to make a case for - the AMG V8 cars typically better to drive and more pleasant to listen to - but for the ultimate in ultimate luxury, nothing quite beats 12 cylinders. S63s almost became commonplace in some areas; seeing an S65 was always a noteworthy spot.

There aren't any details yet on just what the Final Edition modifications will comprise, though you'd have to hope for something modest and restrained in the best light-under-a-bushel S65 fashion. Certainly we'll be making a fuss about it from the Geneva show floor, even if nobody else will. And, finally, for those desperate to pay personal respects to the V12's demise, check this out - a 2015 S65 AMG, with just 8,000 miles, for sale at £84,995. Current new price? £189,260. Sounds like a bargain to us...





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mrclav

Original Poster:

748 posts

162 months

Monday 25th February
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Truly the end of an era for MB - I guess those well-heeled enough to purchase such a car have RR as a viable alternative?

kambites

56,113 posts

160 months

Monday 25th February
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Isn't the S600 still a V12?

Equus

5,468 posts

40 months

Monday 25th February
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mrclav said:
Truly the end of an era for MB - I guess those well-heeled enough to purchase such a car have RR as a viable alternative?
Hmmm... not sure about that.

I run an S-class (albeit only a V8, and not new) as one of my daily drivers. I can turn up to the house of one of my domestic clients in it and to most people its just a big German saloon, which draws very few comments. I couldn't do the same in a Rolls Royce or Bentley, without being thought extravagant: they lack the relative subtlety of the Mercedes.

myhandle

872 posts

113 months

Monday 25th February
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kambites said:
Isn't the S600 still a V12?
And also the S650 Maybach? I would imagine they would continue as V12s, for this generation at least.

E65Ross

22,049 posts

151 months

Monday 25th February
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A real shame frown
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AdamAJP

123 posts

116 months

Monday 25th February
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This shape S class looks the best resolved to my eyes - especially with those (alpina-esq) turbine wheels.

I can understand the argument for removing it from the range but I do wonder whether we will marvel at the engineering of whatever power unit replaces it in the same way.

pSyCoSiS

2,389 posts

144 months

Monday 25th February
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This is indeed an end of an era.

I am hankering to buy another W140 600 SEL V12 - the car which started the V12 love affair in the S Class.

No doubt BMW will also stop the V12 soon in their 7 Series.

Equus

5,468 posts

40 months

Monday 25th February
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kambites said:
Isn't the S600 still a V12?
The S600 is no longer listed as a current model.

The Maybach S650 is still listed, but if the AMG S65 is being canned, one has to question how much longer the the Maybach will be offered.

Twoshoe

449 posts

123 months

Monday 25th February
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One reason for its demise might be that the S65 is actually slower than the current S63 iirc (or at least slower- accelerating).

greghm

435 posts

40 months

Monday 25th February
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mrclav said:
Truly the end of an era for MB - I guess those well-heeled enough to purchase such a car have RR as a viable alternative?
I never owned any of these two: is the RR that reliable ?

Buster73

3,126 posts

92 months

Monday 25th February
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greghm said:
I never owned any of these two: is the RR that reliable ?
Range Rovers are fine man , don’t believe all you read about them.

Cambs_Stuart

416 posts

23 months

Monday 25th February
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£100k depreciation in 8000 miles? Really?

GranCab

1,397 posts

85 months

Monday 25th February
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Cambs_Stuart said:
£100k depreciation in 8000 miles? Really?
It's 4 years old ... and at a non-franchised dealership ......

Cambs_Stuart

416 posts

23 months

Monday 25th February
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GranCab said:
Cambs_Stuart said:
£100k depreciation in 8000 miles? Really?
It's 4 years old ... and at a non-franchised dealership ......
Oh yes. That's ok then.

BIRMA

2,477 posts

133 months

Monday 25th February
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Fabulous engines, I had a CL65 (documented in readers cars under CL65 a fast barge) with this engine. Once on the move the power delivery was cartoon like, no fuss or noise just the scenery flashing by in a way to get you into serious trouble very quickly.
Not sure about having ceramic discs on a car this heavy though, it will be an even greater bargain a few more years down the road.
To maintain this vehicle properly will cost a small fortune, the combination of ceramic disc replacement and a major/spark plug service will make someone even with deep pockets cry.

E65Ross

22,049 posts

151 months

Monday 25th February
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BIRMA said:
Fabulous engines, I had a CL65 (documented in readers cars under CL65 a fast barge) with this engine. Once on the move the power delivery was cartoon like, no fuss or noise just the scenery flashing by in a way to get you into serious trouble very quickly.
Not sure about having ceramic discs on a car this heavy though, it will be an even greater bargain a few more years down the road.
To maintain this vehicle properly will cost a small fortune, the combination of ceramic disc replacement and a major/spark plug service will make someone even with deep pockets cry.
Cost aside, I'm not sure why carbon ceramic discs DON'T make sense because of the weight (as you say)... Surely they make MORE sense with a heavy car?

BrabusMog

13,288 posts

125 months

Monday 25th February
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Cambs_Stuart said:
GranCab said:
Cambs_Stuart said:
£100k depreciation in 8000 miles? Really?
It's 4 years old ... and at a non-franchised dealership ......
Oh yes. That's ok then.
I'd imagine it was leased or PCP by the previous owner at £3k + a month, so whilst it seems like heavy depreciation, it is plausible.

GranCab

1,397 posts

85 months

Monday 25th February
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Cambs_Stuart said:
GranCab said:
Cambs_Stuart said:
£100k depreciation in 8000 miles? Really?
It's 4 years old ... and at a non-franchised dealership ......
Oh yes. That's ok then.
Big Mercs tend to drop like a stone in value.

I'd rather pay more and buy a younger car from a genuine dealership - unless you think a " 3 month warranty *Exclusions apply " .... is good enough.

e.g.

https://stock.mercedes-benz.co.uk/used/vehicle-det...

Prinny

1,132 posts

38 months

Monday 25th February
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I’m no stranger to a challenging look, I have a Bangle 7 series, but is this PH picture compression, or have Mercedes-Benz gone to town on the front of the S-class?

The sides & back are fine, but I think this is awful. (Please tell me it’s the article)



A quick google - it’s the AMG design. Here’s an ordinary one:



Those lower grilles need colour-coordinating, or something. (I think the ordinary one is much better!)

kambites

56,113 posts

160 months

Monday 25th February
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Cambs_Stuart said:
Oh yes. That's ok then.
It's obviously a hell of a lot in absolute terms, but losing 55% of list price in four years is probably fairly average.