RE: Ferrari 458 Italia: Spotted

RE: Ferrari 458 Italia: Spotted

Saturday 2nd March

Ferrari 458 Italia: Spotted

F8 Tributo left you wanting a mid-engined V8 berlinetta? Here's a nearly new example of grandad



Although Ferrari calls its freshly revealed F8 Tributo a new car, it is essentially a heavily reworked version of the 488 GTB. That much is clear from the car’s technical layout, which includes a midship V8 of 3.9-litres mounted within an aluminium monocoque and a familiar skin wearing extra fins and intakes. It’s a menacing thing and the accompanying numbers speak for the pace on offer - but make no mistake, this is a major revamp rather than a next-gen Ferrari.

Of course, this was also true of the 488, itself having evolved from the 458. Its monocoque and dimensions were very similar to its predecessor’s, as were the design details, while the way it drove was very clearly ‘458 plus’ – well, ‘plus a lot’. The hyper-responsiveness was quickened further still in the 488 and we all know how trading the older car’s normally aspirated 4.5-litre V8 for a turbocharged unit affected its performance.


But did it make the car more special? If you live by numbers than it’s likely each successive mid-engined Ferrari has appealed more than the last. But by other measures, the 458 is arguably the most remarkable; it’s Maranello’s last series production atmospheric V8 berlinetta after all. Certainly many buyers have thought as much, as evidenced by the number of barely used 458s on the classifieds. In order to cash in on the car’s illustrious title, they have suffered only minimal mileage since they were registered.

The owner of today’s Spotted has gone one step further. Their right-hand drive car was built in 2012 for the UK market but survived off the DVLA’s books for four years, meaning it is – as far as we can tell – the last registered 458 in Britain. Evidence of its late entry into the database comes with its 66 plate, prior to which it had only covered a handful of miles. And while a now seven-year-old car that spent the first half of its life in stasis before travelling only 600 miles might be a cause for concern, this one has been serviced annually, which suggests it could genuinely be in like-new condition. For someone with a couple of hundred grand to spare, it really could be a choice of this or the new F8.


Which would you choose? The new car would undoubtedly walk away from our 458 in a straight race, be it on a drag strip or a circuit. Plus, we might assume it’d be easier to live with thanks to improved cabin technology, the latest damping hardware and a more seamless seven-speed dual clutch gearbox. But the theatre of the 458’s 4.5-litre engine and its unadulterated breathing apparatus is unbeatable. Nothing builds and builds towards a 9,000rpm crescendo so gloriously. When everything’s electrified and muted by the next CO2-cutting tech, it’s this what we’ll miss the most.


SPECIFICATIONS - FERRARI 458 ITALIA

Engine: 4,497cc, V8
Transmission: 7-speed dual-clutch, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 570@9,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 398@6,000rpm
MPG: 21.2
CO2: 307g/km
First registered: 2016 (built in 2012)
Recorded mileage: 600
Price new: £178,390 (2009)
Yours for: £199,995

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Esceptico

Original Poster:

1,594 posts

48 months

Saturday 2nd March
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Yes to buying a 458 rather than a 488 but no to paying 488 money. Just buy one with a few more miles.

Guybrush

4,019 posts

145 months

Saturday 2nd March
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If you buy it you have to consider: use it a bit and flush thousands in value away, but a great chance to get as new if you missed the chance first time, or garage it and look at it. I'd rather go for one with just a few more miles on it.

Sandpit Steve

124 posts

13 months

Saturday 2nd March
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Given the quoted original list price before options, it’s quite probable that the owner has sat in this for seven years hoping for a profit, only to now be selling at a loss. He clearly didn’t buy it to drive.

The new owner is going to have to want a museum piece too, because actually going anywhere in this one would cause it to lose nearly half its value overnight. Pointless.

Vee12V

770 posts

99 months

Saturday 2nd March
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458s are known for being able to suck op the miles. No point in buying this one in boring resale black.

AdamV12AMR

1,135 posts

95 months

Saturday 2nd March
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After the F8 article I went straight to the classifieds to check out 458 prices.

Was absolutely staggered by the number of Speciales for sale. Felt like it was one Italia for every two Speciales, with the performance model still commanding at least +60% price point.

I assumed they were built in much lower numbers than the base car, which is what accounted for their value. But the used market suggests not.

They just must be a LOT better or, more likely, Ferrari transcends the laws of supply and demand scratchchin
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Amanitin

200 posts

76 months

Saturday 2nd March
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Ferrari should build cars that are a couple years old to begin with and pocket the extra 20k

Esceptico

Original Poster:

1,594 posts

48 months

Saturday 2nd March
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AdamV12AMR said:
After the F8 article I went straight to the classifieds to check out 458 prices.

Was absolutely staggered by the number of Speciales for sale. Felt like it was one Italia for every two Speciales, with the performance model still commanding at least +60% price point.

I assumed they were built in much lower numbers than the base car, which is what accounted for their value. But the used market suggests not.

They just must be a LOT better or, more likely, Ferrari transcends the laws of supply and demand scratchchin
I did the same and was also surprised. However could be a difference between advertised price and what they actually sell for.

Schermerhorn

3,542 posts

128 months

Saturday 2nd March
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Amanitin said:
Ferrari should build cars that are a couple years old to begin with and pocket the extra 20k
They can make the extra £20,000 by selling some options like caliper paint and a stitched Ferrari logo in the headrests.

HardtopManual

1,098 posts

105 months

Saturday 2nd March
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I'll be amazed if it sells for anywhere close to that asking price.

GranCab

1,397 posts

85 months

Saturday 2nd March
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Regardless of mileage it is still a 2012 car.

Its true value is around £150K.

F1GTRUeno

4,024 posts

157 months

Saturday 2nd March
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They've aged extremely well haven't they?

I was never quite sure about it when it was launched but that just looks lovely.

big_rob_sydney

2,239 posts

133 months

Saturday 2nd March
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As an investment, its a pretty poor return.

Why buy it then if you're not going to drive it? This should be ragged to within an inch of its life, surely. And even then, if you REALLY want to go fast, buy a much cheaper track specific car (e.g. ex formula car), or something like a GTR or GT3 and lots of tires and track days, and set aside money for maintenance, etc.

It's a nice enough willy waver, but beyond that, I don't really see the point (and I'm Italian myself; sacrilege / apostasy? ).

Derek Chevalier

2,031 posts

112 months

Saturday 2nd March
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Assuming they can handle the mileage is this good value with the 2 year warranty?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

greenarrow

1,557 posts

56 months

Saturday 2nd March
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This article brings home how much has changed in a decade. When the 458 was launched in 2010 it won every single road test. The following year McLaren launched the MP4-12C and it was beaten by the 458 in pretty much every comparison test. This 458 is significant for not only being the last mid engined Ferrari to be launched with a n/a engine, but the last that topped its class with ease. The 488 has unfortunately for Ferrari been completely over-shadowed by the McLaren 720S. The 488 Pista didn't exactly get rave reviews last year and the 812 Superfast similarly didn't win any COTY awards.

Ferrari really needs to get its mojo back with the new model.

For now, the 458 Italia is likely to go down as one of the greats so I'm not surprised at the asking price. Its my favourite Ferrari of recent times although purely as an armchair fan!!

big_rob_sydney

2,239 posts

133 months

Saturday 2nd March
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greenarrow said:
This article brings home how much has changed in a decade. When the 458 was launched in 2010 it won every single road test. The following year McLaren launched the MP4-12C and it was beaten by the 458 in pretty much every comparison test. This 458 is significant for not only being the last mid engined Ferrari to be launched with a n/a engine, but the last that topped its class with ease. The 488 has unfortunately for Ferrari been completely over-shadowed by the McLaren 720S. The 488 Pista didn't exactly get rave reviews last year and the 812 Superfast similarly didn't win any COTY awards.

Ferrari really needs to get its mojo back with the new model.

For now, the 458 Italia is likely to go down as one of the greats so I'm not surprised at the asking price. Its my favourite Ferrari of recent times although purely as an armchair fan!!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 488 is the entry level Ferrari. Is the 720S the entry level McL?

Darren1101

79 posts

88 months

Saturday 2nd March
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big_rob_sydney said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 488 is the entry level Ferrari. Is the 720S the entry level McL?
California T is the entry level Ferrari. Ok, not midship, but comparable on price to the sport series McL.

GranCab

1,397 posts

85 months

Saturday 2nd March
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Do keep up at the back ...

The Cali T was replaced by the Portofino last year smile

MitchT

12,274 posts

148 months

Saturday 2nd March
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Derek Chevalier said:
Assuming they can handle the mileage is this good value with the 2 year warranty?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Much prefer the standard wheels on that one. The option wheels on the car that the article highlighted (that pretty everyone has specced on their 458s) have spokes that look too thin and "brittle" for my liking. Just a shame that the standard ones aren't left- and right-handed like the wheels on the 348 are.

Edited by MitchT on Saturday 2nd March 16:12

Motorsport3

266 posts

131 months

Saturday 2nd March
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Amazing it's been 10yrs since this was launched...

saxy

150 posts

63 months

Sunday 3rd March
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The problem about buying a supercar with no miles is that you’re pressured to not drive it at all or else it’s no longer a no miles car. If you want to drive a 458, you buy one that has miles on it so that it doesn’t cost you drive.

Such a shame such a car will only be bought for the sake of being a garage queen.