RE: Shed of the Week: Audi A6 3.0

RE: Shed of the Week: Audi A6 3.0

Friday 12th April 2019

Shed of the Week: Audi A6 3.0

The latest 3.0-litre A6 is a diesel supersaloon; but why bother with that, though, when this V6 is £1,250?



'Quality skips... maximum displacement for minimal coin'. PHer Derestrictor could easily have been describing Mrs Shed when, in early 2008, he set out the parameters for a new forum thread.

In fact, he was inviting other PHers to put up links to great value used motors at between £1k and £5k. He struck a chord there because, eleven and a bit years later, Best Smoker Barges 1-5 Large is sailing majestically into volume 14.

Clearly there is still plenty of love among tightwads like us for luxury motors at a fraction of their new price. Although Shed's choice is always restricted to vehicles that are actually put on sale in the PH Classifieds, a concept still not fully understood by every reader, some might still say that Shed of the Week hasn't been pulling its smoker barge weight recently. We did have that Mercedes W220 S500 luring us onto the rocks of low-entry price bankruptcy a few weeks back, but other potential candidates have been frozen out by a sudden rush of affordable sporting tackle, so it's nice to be able to reacquaint ourselves now with the low-key attractions of a well-specced and spangly-looking six-cylinder Audi A6.


To Shed at least, the looks of the gen-two 4B A6 have matured nicely. Inside this bright SE example we have lovely, progressive-padding seats that, Shed can attest, are as comfy as they are stylish. To give the A6 a chance against the equivalent Merc and BMWs, these 4Bs were loaded to the gills with gizmos to help you stay between the lines.

As far as Shed recalls, the saloon (built on the C5 platform between 1997 and 2004) didn't have the Allroad's air suspension, which is good because that wasn't good. What's also handy about this example is that it was registered in September 2002, which means it was a facelift model with the 3.0 30-valve V6 replacing the old 2.8 lump.

Although the heavy-flywheeled 3.0's 217hp wasn't developed until 6,300rpm, its 221lb ft maximum torque came in at a much more accessible 3,200rpm. Flowing through a five-speed Tiptronic auto with upchanges on the forward shove and the Torsen four-wheel drive system nullifying the front-wheel-driveness of the basic A6, it's a smart recipe for a relaxing all year-round drive.


The last MOT test was in January. Advisories included some steering play, a corroded exhaust, and 'various corrosion to rear suspension components'. The tester hasn't been massively helpful here. What rear suspension component does he mean? A damper, a control arm, or something else? And in the corrosion rankings, where does 'various' stand? Is it somewhere between 'rich tea biscuit' and 'skidmark'?

You'd want to get better answers to these questions for yourself. Some keen testers will point up any sort of corrosion, even if it's the sort that will routinely occur on just about any vehicle beyond a certain age. You'll find scrappers happily selling complete rear suspension kits with a fair blobbing of visible rust so it needn't be a major concern. Whatever level we're talking about here, it once again proves the point that rust, like the big C, is not class- or marque-conscious.

Running costs? The road tax will be £325 a year, or about £27 a month, you can expect fuel consumption figures in the mid-20s in moderate use (down to the teens in immoderate use), and you'll be able to run it on cheap classic car insurance.


Those costs don't include surprise bills of course. Nothing is certain in life, and that goes especially for 17 year-old cars with negligible service histories, but visually at least it does appear that this one has escaped most of the slings and arrows of outrageous motoring. Apart from a small cluster of parking dints on the offside rear bumper panel, it looks remarkably clean and a rolling testament to the valeting section of Halfords.

The sort of stuff that can go wrong can be readily copied from the diary of any German smoker barge owner, i.e. electrics (coil packs, windows), bodywork, suspension, brakes. Specific to this model you might encounter faulty fuel filters, ever-lit EML lights and blocked oil passages or poor electrical connections in the torque converter department. At least the Multitronic auto box that was the bane of many an FWD Audi is not present here: instead, this quattro should have the less aggravating ZF unit, though even that had its own shifting problems.

The lack of service history and the admitted ignorance about when the timing belts and water pump were last replaced obviously counts against this car - the price of peace of mind being around £600 at an independent, or twice that at a main dealer - but the compensation is that you won't have to fork out for new tyres, battery and handbrake any time soon as they've all been replaced this year. As noted earlier, the only other major unknown is the MOT tester's definition of corrosion. Unencumbered by today's too-big alloys and too-hard suspension setups, this A6 will be as comfy as an old boot, and hopefully a bit less smelly.

Here's the ad.

Author
Discussion

alorotom

Original Poster:

11,939 posts

187 months

Friday 12th April 2019
quotequote all
This generation of A6 hasn’t aged well at all imo and looks much older than it actually is and that rear is gopping.

The C6/A6 variant can occasionally be had for similar money too - a much better deal in my eyes

paradigital

863 posts

152 months

Friday 12th April 2019
quotequote all
alorotom said:
This generation of A6 hasn’t aged well at all imo and looks much older than it actually is and that rear is gopping.

The C6/A6 variant can occasionally be had for similar money too - a much better deal in my eyes
Agreed. The rear end of the C5 saloon is awful. I'd either hunt out an avant C5 or as you say a C6 even if that means leggier mileage. I would however shy away from the 2.0TFSI in the C6 as not only did mine suffer from oil pump failure, it was also under powered for the size/weight of vehicle!

I keep getting urges to buy into an C6 S6 Avant.

Numeric

1,396 posts

151 months

Friday 12th April 2019
quotequote all
The dashboard dial set up in this Audi is pretty much perfect - as it is in all BMW till the latest models.
Clear concise information - why are we moving now to stupid graphic displays - the new BMW dials I find awful - or is it just me with my tired and jaded eyes?

sgtBerbatov

2,597 posts

81 months

Friday 12th April 2019
quotequote all
Numeric said:
Clear concise information - why are we moving now to stupid graphic displays - the new BMW dials I find awful - or is it just me with my tired and jaded eyes?
I'm too busy cursing BMW drivers not using their indicators to even contemplate their dials to be honest.

alorotom

Original Poster:

11,939 posts

187 months

Friday 12th April 2019
quotequote all
paradigital said:
alorotom said:
This generation of A6 hasn’t aged well at all imo and looks much older than it actually is and that rear is gopping.

The C6/A6 variant can occasionally be had for similar money too - a much better deal in my eyes
Agreed. The rear end of the C5 saloon is awful. I'd either hunt out an avant C5 or as you say a C6 even if that means leggier mileage. I would however shy away from the 2.0TFSI in the C6 as not only did mine suffer from oil pump failure, it was also under powered for the size/weight of vehicle!

I keep getting urges to buy into an C6 S6 Avant.
I had an S6 saloon and loved it - it was an urgent purchase when my TT was written off and I needed something larger with an incoming baby - wish id never sold it tbh.

Limpet

6,309 posts

161 months

Friday 12th April 2019
quotequote all
alorotom said:
This generation of A6 hasn’t aged well at all imo and looks much older than it actually is and that rear is gopping.

The C6/A6 variant can occasionally be had for similar money too - a much better deal in my eyes
I was actually thinking the opposite. I reckon this is more handsome than any of its successors. Eye of the beholder, and all that. smile

Riley Blue

20,955 posts

226 months

Friday 12th April 2019
quotequote all
"...be able to run it on cheap classic car insurance." A 2002 Audi diesel?

J4CKO

41,558 posts

200 months

Friday 12th April 2019
quotequote all
Limpet said:
alorotom said:
This generation of A6 hasn’t aged well at all imo and looks much older than it actually is and that rear is gopping.

The C6/A6 variant can occasionally be had for similar money too - a much better deal in my eyes
I was actually thinking the opposite. I reckon this is more handsome than any of its successors. Eye of the beholder, and all that. smile
Yeah, like how these look and this looks very tidy for its 17 years, bet its a nice enough drive, very comfy and aside from ta and fuel not that expensive to run.Reminds me on the old Audi 100 I had, especially the interior.

SD_1

7,265 posts

158 months

Friday 12th April 2019
quotequote all
Numeric said:
Clear concise information - why are we moving now to stupid graphic displays - the new BMW dials I find awful - or is it just me with my tired and jaded eyes?
I agree, I don't see the appeal of a massive bright screen in a car at all. They are an utter nightmare at night too, one of the stupider fads with new cars.

Rob175kks

169 posts

152 months

Friday 12th April 2019
quotequote all
This is a car for people who's favourite passtime is yawning.

J4CKO

41,558 posts

200 months

Friday 12th April 2019
quotequote all
SD_1 said:
Numeric said:
Clear concise information - why are we moving now to stupid graphic displays - the new BMW dials I find awful - or is it just me with my tired and jaded eyes?
I agree, I don't see the appeal of a massive bright screen in a car at all. They are an utter nightmare at night too, one of the stupider fads with new cars.
New cars ? been around since the nineties !

You can turn them off by and large, most have a night mode that dims the screen and uses darker colours.

Better get used to them, dont think car makers will be going for a Steam Punk theme any time soon.

J4CKO

41,558 posts

200 months

Friday 12th April 2019
quotequote all
SD_1 said:
Numeric said:
Clear concise information - why are we moving now to stupid graphic displays - the new BMW dials I find awful - or is it just me with my tired and jaded eyes?
I agree, I don't see the appeal of a massive bright screen in a car at all. They are an utter nightmare at night too, one of the stupider fads with new cars.
New cars ? been around since the nineties !

You can turn them off by and large, most have a night mode that dims the screen and uses darker colours.

Better get used to them, dont think car makers will be going for a Steam Punk theme any time soon.

DailyHack

3,174 posts

111 months

Friday 12th April 2019
quotequote all
the avant A6 is alot better, and little more timeless imo

Genuine Barn Find

5,784 posts

215 months

Friday 12th April 2019
quotequote all
I agree (ref the avant). I ran an Allroad 2.7 Twin Turbo which was a lovely wafty thing. The C5 saloon has not aged well at all. The C6 is a very graceful looking car, even better in the Avant (not that I am biased...…)

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Friday 12th April 2019
quotequote all
Limpet said:
alorotom said:
This generation of A6 hasn’t aged well at all imo and looks much older than it actually is and that rear is gopping.

The C6/A6 variant can occasionally be had for similar money too - a much better deal in my eyes
I was actually thinking the opposite. I reckon this is more handsome than any of its successors. Eye of the beholder, and all that. smile
I agree - this is a much more elegant design to my eye. Each to their own, thankfully they made plenty. biggrin

Barchettaman

6,308 posts

132 months

Friday 12th April 2019
quotequote all
Riley Blue said:
"...be able to run it on cheap classic car insurance." A 2002 Audi diesel?
Eh? It's a petrol.

I agree however that classic car insurance for a 17-year-old car seems unlikely. What's the starting age for a classic policy? 15 years old?

Jon_S_Rally

3,406 posts

88 months

Friday 12th April 2019
quotequote all
The only thing I can really think to say about this is "yawn".

What a monumentally dull car. Dull to look at, dull interior, not that fast, not economical either. It's a bit of a nothing car to me. I'm out with this one.

gkeele

17 posts

61 months

Friday 12th April 2019
quotequote all
Brother had one of these for a while. I think he quite liked it, until the 'Venturi pump' took a crap and cost him thousands. He realised the perils of old Audi ownership and moved it along.

DailyHack

3,174 posts

111 months

Friday 12th April 2019
quotequote all
1.9tdi, then we have a good shed engine!

Riley Blue

20,955 posts

226 months

Friday 12th April 2019
quotequote all
Barchettaman said:
Riley Blue said:
"...be able to run it on cheap classic car insurance." A 2002 Audi diesel?
Eh? It's a petrol.

I agree however that classic car insurance for a 17-year-old car seems unlikely. What's the starting age for a classic policy? 15 years old?
Beg your pardon, so it is. It was the word diesel in the heading that threw me. Even so, I'd be very surprised if it's insurable as a classic, one leading insurer I checked with stipulated pre-'98.