RE: PH takes on the CBT

RE: PH takes on the CBT

Tuesday 7th May 2019

PH takes on the CBT

Learning to ride a motorbike shouldn't be that difficult, right? Enter Matt Bird...



I should have done my CBT yonks ago; when mates were doing it as they turned 16, when there was spare time and cash during university summers, when I started doing this job half a dozen years ago. And I didn't. Why? An assortment of reasons. While the idea of riding a bike has always intrigued, I've never yearned desperately to do it as I did with driving. As such, getting the CBT done, or saving money for a bike, was never prioritised, because cars were always number one. Plus there's the fact I was a bit scared: scared I wouldn't understand it, scared I'd fail.. just scared, to be frank.

Still, when the offer came - full disclosure and all that - from Honda to get a few car journalists behind the handlebars (I still have a lot of lingo to learn), it seemed like the ideal opportunity to scratch that two-wheeled itch. Or at least begin to, given there are still the A2 and A tests to do beyond the CBT. Here's what happened.


The CBT day began with the elementary stuff; this is Compulsory Basic Training, after all. So your vision is checked, as is your awareness of, y'know, wearing a helmet all the time and wearing flip flops none of the time. Once that's out of the way, the practical element can begin. In addition to getting familiar with which thing does what on a bike - like teaching the other guys in attendance to suck eggs, but useful when you really don't know - there's a lesson on daily and weekly bike maintenance. Again, it will seem painfully obvious to those in the know, but worthwhile to proper novices.

While it would be nice to tell a story of taking to a motorbike like a duck to water, the truth was anything but. Such was my chronic lack of experience (and, seemingly, aptitude), that I received one-on-one tuition while the other attendants made progress as a trio. Balance wasn't too tricky, given it is ultimately a bike, but combining that with my making hands and feet do things they've never really done before, while keeping myself from looking down at what they're doing, was really difficult. And that was just going in a straight line.


To say it clicked in the car park manoeuvring section would be exaggerating quite significantly, but things did gradually begin to make sense. In first gear, that is. Handily, some things were (and are) similar to learning to drive a car: keeping eyes up, making inputs smooth, thinking as far ahead as possible. Some of it, though, really took some concentration. Slipping the clutch to aid slow speed turns really makes no sense after a decade of driving, finding second at a stop happens as often as neutral and the initial first-to-second changes are jerky to say the least.

Just prior to lunch, though, when practising T-junctions, the whole process begins to flow a little, bringing together all that had been learnt in the morning about observation, pulling away, gearchanges and turns. But then everything seems easier in a controlled environment, right? After lunch is when it all becomes a lot more real, with a compulsory minimum of two hours riding on the road before qualification. Having not exactly mastered getting around cones in a car park, I was hardly brimming with confidence.


Especially after struggling with hill starts. (I promise some of the riding was good, honest.) But using the rear brake under my right foot as a handbrake while slipping the clutch in and adding the right amount of throttle felt like attempting keep-ups with a ping pong ball while juggling coconuts. And balancing a beanbag on your head. Perhaps that's an exaggeration. But be in no doubt that riding a motorbike isn't as simple as it might seem.

Bizarrely, when released from the confines of the car park and onto the open road, the process seemed a lot more logical. The gearchanges came together more cohesively, acceleration and deceleration was less jerky and - dare it be said - the whole experience was a lot more fun. Really, really good fun, actually. The sense of speed, immediacy and freedom was like nothing available on four wheels, even with just 125cc. Then it started to rain. Then it started to hail. Then riding a bike was less fun.


Still, despite some rather adverse conditions, some quite considerable panic at roundabouts and one or two iffy gearchanges, a solid chunk of the two hours on the road was immensely enjoyable; a realisation that the good bits of riding a bike were even better than hoped for. Oh, and I passed, by the way.

So yes, with presumably quite tedious predictability for those already on two wheels, the bike bug has bitten - I think it's great. There's everything you want in the best driving experiences, even while never going beyond 60mph: as a rider you're an integral part, the bike only as good as your inputs. In a lot of cars the driver can get away with being quite lazy; the demands of a bike mean that's never possible, but also that the rewards are on another level.

The next step is the theory test, then the two practicals; to say I'm enthusiastic would be accurate, certainly. For now, I'm all ears on any advice and tips that PHers may have, because goodness knows they're needed. More - hopefully - to follow soon!







 

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BFleming

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3,606 posts

143 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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This brings back happy memories of doing my CBT and test back in 2000. I did my CBT at some place in Vauxhall on a Saturday. It was comedy, as it was all on premises in a school playground back then, no on-road use. One lad kept falling off, so he failed. My subsequent training with with BMF in Bromley; dirt cheap way to learn, and great tuition. I passed on a CB125 which felt tiny. I did my test in Sidcup, and the only tricky part was the U-turn. But I honestly reckon doing my bike test made me a better car driver (more awareness of things around me). Passing on a 125 gave me an A2 licence for 2 years, so I was restricted to 25KW/34PS. I bought a BMW F650 (X262OEV) which Bracken on the Old Kent Road fitted the restrictor to. The restrictor was a funny old thing - basically a big block of rubber that restricted the air intake massively. I've read of people that removed the restrictor, cut out the restricting rubber with a stanley knife & reinstalled it (giving full power) but I doubt I ever did that. Definitely not. The restrictor block had writing on the edge of it, so an inspection would say it was definitely restricted.

After my 2 year probation I bought a ZX6R G1 (R586VEY), then a SV1000S (HF03NVC) a couple of years after that. There hasn't been anything in the garage for many years now though, and I do miss bikes. I don't miss commuting on one, but I've recently considered a ZX10R for those sunny days. Maybe...

PistonBroker

2,419 posts

226 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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Did mine in November 1994, having cycled a 12-mile round trip post GCSEs to my summer job 6 days a week to save the money. A lad used to pass me on his DT50 and it turned out to be the lad I bought mine off - he was doing them up and then selling them on to trade up.

Turns out he wasn't doing them up well enough! I had to bow out of my first CBT attempt early as the indicators failed! Needless to say, having not long owned it and with the amount of spares he had in his garage, the lad I bought it off was my first port of call and I went back a week later to try again.

This time I got the intercom and the lead. But the intercom was rubbish and being a silly 16yo I elected to say nothing and muddle through. Which didn't work.

The instructor stopped the 3 of us at the end and asked the other 2 if they felt they were happy to ride home on their own - he was going to have to follow me home as there was no way he could give me my certificate. So off they went and the instructor and I set off on the 3-mile journey home. Which wasn't as alien to me as the council estate we'd been riding around earlier.

Trust my Dad to choose this moment as the one to be ultra proud - he ran out onto the drive to see how I'd got on. Well, I don't know Dad, it didn't seem to be very positive a little while ago! Thankfully the instructor declared my riding to be transformed and I had passed my CBT. Phew!

EvoBarry

1,903 posts

265 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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Matt gets it. Be like Matt.

I started riding back when Part1&2 test were still around, and was a very early CBT participant (it overlapped Part1 at that point). I had a moped at 16 but by 17 I'd saved enough for a CB100N. The feeling of freedom and being part of the environment you're travelling through stays with me to this day, nearly 30years later. I ride to work most days, year round (where feasible), and still enjoy weekend/fun runs. Bikes rule.

ps: I enjoy driving, and class myself as a motoring enthusiast, but cars aren't the same (not worse/better, just not the same over all satisfaction for me).

Mr Dendrite

2,315 posts

210 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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17th Birthday, slap the L plates on a 250 and away I went. Rock up at the Test centre 6 weeks later. It was simple back then, but of course we all died in horrible accidents.

I think the system is much better from a safety and training aspect but it does seem to discourage people from motorcycles.

Murphy16

254 posts

82 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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I'm surprised more 'car people' aren't into bikes. They offer the analogue and engaging experience car enthusiasts seem to bemoan the loss of in modern cars, even at low speeds and small capacity bikes.

kiethton

13,895 posts

180 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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Daily and weekly maintenance - what is this?

getmecoat

ChesterUK

37 posts

157 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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Go on Matt!

Once you start to relax and the controls become second nature, i.e. you think about them as much as you don't in a car, then build on observation. Observing everything around you in all directions, particularly if you're making a right hand turn.

When you jump onto a 400 (or whatever) for the first time, it will feel like you just won't ever need any more power! Even restricted. That sensation is quite something. I still remember it vividly from just over 20 years ago.

For now, practice makes perfect (read better!). Remember what the instructors told you because it will probably safe your life one day. And enjoy it. There's nothing else quite like it and it's so much fun.

Maybe see you at the MCN Festival of Motorcycling...

cybersimon

199 posts

169 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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Look where you are going and you will go where you look.

(Because you are the steering mechanism)

BFleming

Original Poster:

3,606 posts

143 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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Mr Dendrite said:
I think the system is much better from a safety and training aspect but it does seem to discourage people from motorcycles.
My mum did all she could to discourage us from bikes as kids - but as I was into everything mechanical, a bike remained the holy grail. Even when I passed my test at age 30ish & bought my first bike, I couldn't tell her.
A few of the kids near us had Suzuki TS80's. They must have been incredibly slow, but definitely quicker than a 10 speed racer, and something to lust after.
My brother's mate turned up at school one day with a low riding Yamaha 250. He let us all have a go on it, which was a memory that will stick with me forever. He came out of school one day & the bike was gone. When asked if he reported it stolen, he replied that it may not have been his to begin with redcard

Roy m

198 posts

213 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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I'd be interested in the costs which would be involved in getting through all the tests etc if Honda weren't paying.

TartanPaint

2,989 posts

139 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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I haven't logged in for ages, but I have to now.

Every car driver should do this. If you haven't done it, there's no petrol in your veins and you are an imposter.

Even if you have no intention of ever owning a bike (which is a whole different debate), I implore you, DO THE CBT!

What have you got to lose? It costs less than £100 and they'll lend you a helmet. Just book it and do it. Experience this for yourself. What other fun things can you do for a whole day for £100 with all equipment supplied?

Just do it. Now.

Reg Local

2,680 posts

208 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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Careful Matt - it can be addictive and expensive!

I did my CBT & theory in December 2017 just to “have a go & see if I like it”.

I did like it, so I did my mod 1 & mod 2 in January 2018, just to “see if I like riding bigger bikes”.

Of course, I liked it.

I’ve barely had a day off the bike since. First bike was a Fazer 1000 and I swapped that for a new BMW S1000XR after a few months. I’m now on 17,000 miles in 16 months & loving it.

Do I prefer bikes to cars? No, I don’t think so. I’ll never have the experience on bikes that I’ve got in cars and I still really enjoy a hard drive in a quick car, but it’s transformed my commute & probably made me a better driver in the process.

Snoggledog

7,030 posts

217 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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Murphy16 said:
I'm surprised more 'car people' aren't into bikes. They offer the analogue and engaging experience car enthusiasts seem to bemoan the loss of in modern cars, even at low speeds and small capacity bikes.
For me it's not the bike, it's the other idiots on the road who put me off ever riding a bike. I see too many people on their mobile phones, drinking mugs of coffee or yelling at screaming runts and generally not paying attention, to want to take the risk.

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

212 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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Why is this in BB? Are you trying to convert the choir?

bozzy.

780 posts

78 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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That feeling of opening up a big bike for the first time. You’ll never forget it.

poing

8,743 posts

200 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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Nice article and very well written!

I keep delaying mine with various excuses, mostly financial and suicidal, but also I'm a bit too old to get wet and cold and still consider it fun. Not to mention that despite being almost 45 years old my mother would still kill me!

Oh, just noticed this is in BB. Should be in GG if Honda are trying to convert people.

V8 FOU

2,974 posts

147 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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CBT? Wossat?
Passed my test in 1970. Ride around the block a few times in each direction, examiner jumps out in front of you for an emergency stop, couple of Highway Code questions. rip up L plates and off down the pub.
Thank gawd it's a bit more rigorous these days.........

Theoffshoredoc

148 posts

173 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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V8 FOU said:
CBT? Wossat?
Passed my test in 1970. Ride around the block a few times in each direction, examiner jumps out in front of you for an emergency stop, couple of Highway Code questions. rip up L plates and off down the pub.
Thank gawd it's a bit more rigorous these days.........
Same with me in 1980. Did the RAC/ACU training first, but life was less complicated back then!

Bungleaio

6,331 posts

202 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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I did my CBT almost 2 years ago then passed A test in sept 2017. Never looked back, I love being on a bike now. I wish I'd done it years ago.

Roy m said:
I'd be interested in the costs which would be involved in getting through all the tests etc if Honda weren't paying.
CBT is about £100, you don't need anything in way of PPE for this as the school will provide a jacket, gloves and helmet. I wore standard jeans and boots.

The next step is to go for the theory test about £30 then the full bike tests. It looks confusing if you don't know anything about how it works but provided you are over 24 you can do Module 1 which is certain manoeuvres in a controlled environment - manual handling, riding around cones, U turn, emergency stop and a swerve. Pass that then it's on to Module 2 which is an hour of riding around on the road. That will give you an A license and you can ride any bike you like. This is called direct access and this will cost around £600 for three days training and the tests. It's probably worth buying your own kit for this.

If you are less than 24 then it's the same tests but you are restricted to certain CC.

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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Reg Local said:
Do I prefer bikes to cars? No, I don’t think so. I’ll never have the experience on bikes that I’ve got in cars and I still really enjoy a hard drive in a quick car, but it’s transformed my commute & probably made me a better driver in the process.
Two totally different disciplines imho - both are immensely satisfying to get right though. Even just making good progress through traffic feels great on a bike.

I'm 32 and passed a couple of months ago, I should've done it 10 years ago!