RE: McLaren Automotive builds 20,000th car

RE: McLaren Automotive builds 20,000th car

Monday 13th May

McLaren Automotive builds 20,000th car

Less than eight years after the first McLaren was built at Woking, the firm hits a major milestone



Hand on heart, did you see McLaren Automotive reaching this sales volume this soon? In the grand scheme of vehicle building, 2011 is not all that long ago; in the history of the automobile it's barely a long sigh. And yet since July of that year 20,000 cars have been made at Woking by McLaren Automotive; 20,000 cars, lest it be forgotten, of at least 540hp, at least £140,000 and never more than two seats.

To be this successful as a new player in such a rarefied niche of the automotive market is worthy of some considerable praise; goes to show that demand for supercars remains strong, too. The 20,000th car produced at the McLaren Production Centre was a 600LT Spider, right-hand drive and Chicane Grey. Fitting perhaps (and in no way staged, of course) given it's probably the best car yet made by McLaren Automotive - as exciting and rewarding as the incredible 600LT Coupe, with seemingly no penalty for its convertible roof.


McLaren now makes more than 20 cars a day, with sales in more than 32 markets and a total revenue for last year of £1.2bn. Which is all well and good - bravo McLaren. What it also means, though, is a plethora of secondhand McLarens available as the total run has reached the impressive 20k milestone.

As has been discussed previously on PH, the original 12C looks like something of a bargain at present. There's so much of what continues to define modern McLaren in it - the 3.8-litre V8 still sees service in the 600LT, as does the gearbox; every single car has used a carbon tub and the dim-witted IRIS system will be familiar to all - yet really nice examples are comfortably less than £100k. This 12C is the cheapest in our classifieds at £77k and looks fantastic - how much further can they fall?

The 650S represented a more significant leap from the 12C than it was really given credit for (with coupes and convertibles now available at £100k), but the introduction of the Sports Series cars - 540C and 570S, now joined by the GT and LT - that really opened McLaren up to a wider audience. Cars in the classifieds that caught our eye included this well travelled (and nicely specced) GT, this Vermillion Red S at less than £100k, and this rather fetching Spider - Vega Blue having been introduced for the 570S Spider.


While those cars, and the current 720S, are those that have built the volume for McLaren, it's probably the limited-run models that have really forged its reputation among buyers, public and press as makers as some of the best supercars around. Unsurprisingly given their limited availability, values have held up strongly, though versions of all McLaren's specials are available on PH. See this UK-supplied P1, in Graphite Grey with Oxblood interior, barely driven with 365 miles and up for £1.2m. Those with mere six-figure budgets might be tempted by a Burton Blue Senna, this one with 800 miles to match its 800hp and 800kg of downforce at £849,950.

Finally, the LTs. While it's too early for 600 Spiders to be on the market, seven equivalent Coupes are for sale, all at around £200,000. As for its iconic 675LT predecessor, it really depends on variant; early coupes are nearing £200,000, with Spiders commanding more cash, right up to this MSO Carbon Series car at £585,000...

Across just a few years, that's quite some model range. With cars like the Speedtail and GT set to join them soon, expect that 20,000 figure to be added to pretty rapidly - and the plaudits to follow not long after.





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mrclav

Original Poster:

791 posts

164 months

Monday 13th May
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Congratulations McLaren - confounding the PH naysayers complaining about the same engine and tub being used in every car... I think that's a pretty amazing achievement!

RacerMike

2,265 posts

152 months

Monday 13th May
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mrclav said:
Congratulations McLaren - confounding the PH naysayers complaining about the same engine and tub being used in every car... I think that's a pretty amazing achievement!
I think about 10,000 are still in stock at McLaren dealers across the world aren’t they? (Said tongue in cheek before anyone starts getting ‘offended’)

wab172uk

1,298 posts

168 months

Monday 13th May
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mrclav said:
Congratulations McLaren - confounding the PH naysayers complaining about the same engine and tub being used in every car... I think that's a pretty amazing achievement!
It's is one hell of an achievement given most other would be supercar makers fall by the wayside very quickly. A success story for once.

However given every car has the same tub, same engine, and pretty much the same design, I wouldn't buy one. OK, maybe a 570S as that appeals more than the others, but going forward I really do hope McLaren get some new designs.

Their new GT car (for me) should have been front engine like a 812 or a DB11. Then bring out a 4 seater like a GTC4 Lusso or Panamera.

As currently to me a 540 is the same as a 720. Both will get from A-B at pretty much the same time. It just depend how much money you have / want to spend depends on what model you go for.

Julian Thompson

905 posts

179 months

Monday 13th May
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wab172uk said:
mrclav said:
Congratulations McLaren - confounding the PH naysayers complaining about the same engine and tub being used in every car... I think that's a pretty amazing achievement!
It's is one hell of an achievement given most other would be supercar makers fall by the wayside very quickly. A success story for once.

However given every car has the same tub, same engine, and pretty much the same design, I wouldn't buy one. OK, maybe a 570S as that appeals more than the others, but going forward I really do hope McLaren get some new designs.

Their new GT car (for me) should have been front engine like a 812 or a DB11. Then bring out a 4 seater like a GTC4 Lusso or Panamera.

As currently to me a 540 is the same as a 720. Both will get from A-B at pretty much the same time. It just depend how much money you have / want to spend depends on what model you go for.
That’d be more tubs and more cost, then.

The thing here is that they have managed to use the one platform to create several cars that by all accounts stand on their own merit. I haven’t driven one yet, but I can’t recall anyone saying the 720 feels like a 570?

BVB

613 posts

94 months

Monday 13th May
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Did Mclaren start making roadcars in the 90's? The F1, the Mercedes Mclaren thing aswell? Built at Woking.
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Julian Thompson

905 posts

179 months

Monday 13th May
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I don’t think you can dare include the F1 can you? That was a bit special...

mge.92

3 posts

13 months

Monday 13th May
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Just saw the new GT at the McLaren factory and have to say that it looks like Ferrari F430 from the front and Acura NSX from the rear with Ford GT door handles 😂 Looks cool but just 720 green house on 570 car.

robm3

4,585 posts

168 months

Monday 13th May
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I wonder, 10, 20 or 30 years down the track, if the 12C will be more desirable than the models that followed. Being the first 'relaunched' Mclaren?

Could be the one to buy, look after and then stick in a barn.

saxy

161 posts

65 months

Tuesday 14th May
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robm3 said:
I wonder, 10, 20 or 30 years down the track, if the 12C will be more desirable than the models that followed. Being the first 'relaunched' Mclaren?

Could be the one to buy, look after and then stick in a barn.
The 12C was notorious for breaking down while not even doing anything. My friend brought his to the repair shop 4 times in a month

coppice

5,190 posts

85 months

Tuesday 14th May
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BVB said:
Did Mclaren start making roadcars in the 90's? The F1, the Mercedes Mclaren thing aswell? Built at Woking.
Bit earlier - the M6GT was made in 1969 . Limited production -only three !

Love the F1 - the only hypercar (as we didn't call it in period ) that resonated with me , and so much nicer than the porky Veyrons etc which succeeded it

Well done for succeeding in making so many , of course, but am I the only one who finds them ..err..a bit samey ?

ghost83

2,929 posts

131 months

Tuesday 14th May
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Would love one, drove a 12c on a track about 7yrs ago and it blew me away!

And also out accelerated a 458 down a straight absolutely bloody epic

AussieFozzy

89 posts

69 months

Tuesday 14th May
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McLaren Automotive builds 20,000th car, insists it still counts as building a car even if they haven't finished sticking all the interior trim pieces down yet.

Sandpit Steve

154 posts

15 months

Tuesday 14th May
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Fantastic achievement McLaren, well done clap

Great to see a British company come from nothing, in less than a decade, to give a serious challenge to the established Italian manufacturers and now making some of the best sports cars on sale today.

I've been lucky enough to drive a couple of their creations, hopefully one day soon there will be one on the driveway.

Here's to the next 20,000 cars smile

big_rob_sydney

2,299 posts

135 months

Tuesday 14th May
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Mixed feelings.

Fast cars, yes.

But in an age where other manufacturers are pushing into other segments (eg SUV, etc), they seem to be excluding some niches that could be profitable. Still, they seem to be growing at a pace that is working for them, so well done in that regard.

I would, however, say that the management effort that has gone into the road car side, potentially distracted from their racing efforts. It's all well and good to simply hire more managers, but there comes a point where you want to have your best and brightest focused on what will, ultimately, become the firms legacy. Whatever that may be. And I fear that in Ron Dennis' pursuit of trying to do everything at the same time, they became a jack of all trades and master of none.

Lets be blunt; they have one platform. A good one, yes. But just one.

f1ten

1,807 posts

94 months

Tuesday 14th May
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Great achievement for sure and well done

Still not sure I will change into one though. If only they sounded better !

coppice

5,190 posts

85 months

Tuesday 14th May
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big_rob_sydney said:
But in an age where other manufacturers are pushing into other segments (eg SUV, etc), they seem to be excluding some niches that could be profitable. .
And I admire them for doing so ...

Boshly

2,743 posts

177 months

Tuesday 14th May
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Julian Thompson said:
I haven’t driven one yet, but I can’t recall anyone saying the 720 feels like a 570?
I have driven both, and they don’t. Both weapons, but 720 Super Series is something else.

Dr Interceptor

5,327 posts

137 months

Tuesday 14th May
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Well done McLaren. A 720S Spider is on my bucket list after I’ve finished fooling around with the Mustang.