RE: Shed of the Week | Fiat Panda 100HP

RE: Shed of the Week | Fiat Panda 100HP

Friday 21st June 2019

Shed of the Week | Fiat Panda 100HP

Every year the Panda's 100hp looks smaller and its suspension a little stiffer - but it still gives great Shed



We had one of these Panda 100HPs almost exactly a year ago, a 2007 one in red from a dealer in Sheffield. Today's one is from t'other side o' t'Pennines, in Lankyshire. Odd that these hard-riding little rollerskates should be so popular Oop North, what with all the cobbled streets they've got up there. Driving a 100HP up there must play merry hell with your Farmers.

That could actually be the reason for sale in this case, as the vendor is flogging this 100HP to make way for another Panda. We don't know if the new one is a softer-riding model to ease his chuckle grapes (he could have softened up the 100HP's ride by bunging in a set of Fiat Coupe bumpstops) but we can at least deduce from his buying pattern that he's got nothing against Pandas.

And why should he? Anything that can take the pounding that this car's Fred Flintstone-hard chassis imposes on it must be pretty well screwed together. Ordinary Pandas are built for Italians who don't have enough money to buy the car they actually want, i.e. an Alfa Romeo at least and ideally a Ferrari. Because they don't have the money, they are angry, and they take out that anger on their car. Which therefore has to be able to take all kinds of abuse. It's all quite logical.


Shed is fully in favour of rustic proletarian transport like the Panda, and that affection ramps up to something not far short of love when you add a sporting tinge to what is an otherwise humble package, in this case a 100hp normally aspirated 1.4 rammed into the frontal zone of what has now become a 975kg buzzbomb.

These cars are fun, and a challenge. Conveniently for the vendor, an alternative motoring publication has just nominated the 100HP as the Most Fun Best Buy For Under £3k Car. You might receive a copy of the mag with the car, but don't try and read it while you're going along. Not without a magazine stand featuring some sort of highly advanced computer-controlled suspension anyway. Hit a bump mid-corner and your carefully modulated throttle position will be blown to hell. A less than brilliant driving position and slightly over-servoed brakes don't help to ensmoothen fast driving, but last year PHer DippedHeadlights came through with a nifty tip for 100HP owners. 'If your shoe size is more than 9 then spend a few minutes with a sharp knife carving away at the plastic to the left of the clutch pedal. Your foot will then fit on the footrest transforming the driving position.' 

At £975, last year's red 100HP was cheaper than this year's silver one. Shed can't remember the red car's mileage but he does recall that it had a fairly nasty case of lacquer pox on its bonnet and that its MOT history indicated an entirely appropriate life of up and at 'em driving.


Today's car is a few months older, but the paint looks OK and the mileage is sub-100k. Its MOT history indicates a sudden increase in problems between February 2016 and July 2017, when the car accumulated nearly 15,000 miles. Whoever was owning it in Feb 2017 didn't get around to renewing the ticket until five months after its expiry. The advisories when it was tested in July 2017 then mentioned the exhaust, front discs, ARB and an insecure bump stop.

Another year and 14,000 miles later, the fail and advisories lists had grown to include another wobbly bump stop, corroded front coil springs and dodgy wheel bearings all round - a common 100HP failing. The brake discs were still worn, too. This March, four months before it was due (preparation for a sale?) another test was taken and failed, this time on a seriously leaking front shock, a rusty brake pipe, rubbish wipers and a weak handbrake. Even after the work was done to get it past the retest, the nearside front tyre was still showing uneven wear.

Maybe the owner got fed up with pumping money into it, who knows, but what we can say is that even Pandas will fall to bits if they're hammered hard enough or insufficient attention is paid to basic maintenance. Despite all that, apart from a worn front seat bolster this game little Panda still presents well enough. The looks are a bit Marmite, but most seem to like the bluff chunkiness. The engines and gearboxes are strong. Faults in the electric power steering system can often be sorted simply by replacing the battery.


The bodywork is pretty resistant to rust, but the persistent mentions of corrosion on those MOT reports suggest that the rear beam and suspension cups might need a scrub-up and repaint. Given that 100HPs routinely fetch over £2000, five quid for some Hammerite, thirty quid on wheel alignment and another hundo for a couple of tyres doesn't seem that big an ask on top of the £1300 (or less) asking price. Parts are cheap, and so is the insurance: one PHer commenting on last year's 100HP dug up a premium that was lower than the one he got for a 1.25 Fiesta Style.

The boot is just about big enough for a large cod and chips, but even if you only use it as a station car then it should be tutto va bene, as they possibly say down Napoli way. Invest in a rubber ring first, obviously.


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Billy_Whizzzz

Original Poster:

2,015 posts

144 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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Epic.

Cambs_Stuart

2,886 posts

85 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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Nice little shed. Fun to drive and practical.

Redline88

399 posts

107 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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Haven’t driven one but most people seem to give them a pretty good review. I always imagined them to be a bit like a lower powered Suzuki swift sport?

Anyway, cracking car for the price although this particular one does appear to be a bit riddled with problems from the article.

mrpenks

368 posts

156 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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I really want one of these but have no use for it at all. Reminds me of my old Seicento Sporting which was crap and brilliant all at the same time.

HeMightBeBanned

617 posts

179 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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Are there suspension options available to improve the ride quality?

LarsG

991 posts

76 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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All it is missing is an Abarth badge on the back.

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/fiat/fia...


only1ian

689 posts

195 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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HeMightBeBanned said:
Are there suspension options available to improve the ride quality?
Afore mentioned rubber ring

andyholli

27 posts

122 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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Red one is up to 111000 now. Laquer peel is a badge of Shed honour. Lovely looking SoTW.

stugolf

473 posts

204 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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I had one, I kept it for 18 month which was far longer than I expected!

A great car, surprisingly peppy and with a nice gear change, actually very good o the motorway as well, kept up with traffic nicely

The ride was terrible to the point where you were looking out for pot holes so you didn't have to visit the doctor with a back injury

I do miss it in a strange way, I don't know why I miss it but I do, I've had far nicer cars but the Panda 100HP definitely gets under your skin

bilo999

121 posts

100 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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Cracking motor still have a soft spot for one of these....great fun drive, and on the street when you see one, still somehow manage to look like an asbo Panda compared to normal Panda's (in a positive way!)

westernlancia

39 posts

166 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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HeMightBeBanned said:
Are there suspension options available to improve the ride quality?
If you need to ask that question, this isn't the car for you

TT1138

739 posts

135 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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I have one, bought as a fun,cheap petrolhead (ish) car to use after buying a house necessitated selling a much nicer machine. Have owned for 18 months.

I’m not going to do the car down, but be aware that it really is a marginally faster, more uncomfortable Fiat Panda. Luggage space with the seats down is very good, and practicality for a small car is high. Air con is excellent, lights are strong and build quality is pretty good for a small car, both inside and out. Insurance is very cheap as mentioned.

However... Don’t go in expecting a fun, petrolheads car. Every once in a while it gives you a small flash of excitement but these are few and far between. It really isn’t quick, and the handling is average. The ride is unbearable on a rough road, and very skittish in corners.

As long as you go in with eyes open then you’ll be fine, but these really aren’t the answer to fun, cheap motoring that everyone praises them to be. At £1k to £1.5k, it’s a low budget, easy to insure car with low running costs that will get you from one place to another with no frills (and no thrills). Just don’t replace the Fiat badges with Abarth. It’s completely undeserving of them.

bakerstreet

4,766 posts

166 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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I really like these. Red and blue are the best colours IMO. I nearly bought one of these earlier this year, but the boot isn't quite big enough for what I need, so it was off the table.

Dickie b

2 posts

59 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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I looked at these to relive memories of my old Fiat Punto Sporting - 1.2 16v that remains one of the most entertaining cars I have owned (which includes caterhams and suchlike). The ride was too harsh so went for a 500 1.4 Sport that also has the 100hp engine and 6speed gearbox .

Not as practical as the Panda.. but can be lobbed about with glee.. and much easier on the spine !

Paraicj

502 posts

142 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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I've had one for 3 years now, and I love it. It's not massively quick but it is a good drive and the 6th gear makes it bearable on the motorway. The discomfort stuff is overstated, I know she is...comedy....but it's not bad at all really. And incredibly practical for its footprint.

This week I've driven it 250 miles from Birmingham to Northumbria, with plenty of A and B roads, and it hasn't missed a beat. This is with 2 bikes on the roof, 2 more bikes in the back with the seats down, and all the gear needed for a week away. Still managed 40mpg.

I'd sell it for the right estate or smallish 4x4, but not for much else!


davyvee

295 posts

136 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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TT1138 said:
However... Don’t go in expecting a fun, petrolheads car.
I don't think you're driving it right.

I have one and it's hilarious fun imo. Half of the beauty is the fact the road suddenly becomes 50% wider when driving it which opens up lots of new lines. biggrin

rampageturke

2,622 posts

163 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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deserved the abarth name

AC43

11,499 posts

209 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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I think these look great. And it's a small, light, flat-sided four door hatchback with good visibility and Italian valve springs bouncing off the bonnet. Italians have always been brilliant at this sort of car.

However, it would the main car for my Mrs and she thinks they look awful and keeps insisting on a 500. Purely on the looks. Given the amount of shuttling kids & their friends around I think it would drive her nuts having just two doors.

Oh well :-(

davyvee

295 posts

136 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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HeMightBeBanned said:
Are there suspension options available to improve the ride quality?
Bilstein/Koni dampers and Eibach pro springs are supposed to improve things.


greenarrow

3,609 posts

118 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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Dickie b said:
I looked at these to relive memories of my old Fiat Punto Sporting - 1.2 16v that remains one of the most entertaining cars I have owned (which includes caterhams and suchlike). The ride was too harsh so went for a 500 1.4 Sport that also has the 100hp engine and 6speed gearbox .

Not as practical as the Panda.. but can be lobbed about with glee.. and much easier on the spine !
ahh, you had one of those too! I had a 1997 one in yellow, one of the first 1.2s registered, owned for nearly 5 years, brilliant car and an absolute blast to drive flat out. I red lined mine nearly every day. I can honestly say it still holds many A to B personal bests along the country lanes I used to use on the way to work. Before that I had the Cincequento Sporting and funnily enough I'm currently looking at cheap ones of these to buy as I wish I'd kept it longer.

I love small Fiats but I think the bone hard ride would put me off this one. I don't see the point of having a ride so harsh that it makes you slow down on the sort of roads this kind of car was built for....