RE: McLaren Mercedes SLR: Showpiece of the Week

RE: McLaren Mercedes SLR: Showpiece of the Week

Monday 15th July 2019

McLaren Mercedes SLR: Showpiece of the Week

McLaren would probably prefer to forget the SLR these days - but like all black sheep, it's wildly likeable



Compared to the ordeal it endured with Honda, McLaren's former relationship with Mercedes looks like one of long held happiness. The British Formula 1 team and German engine supplier might have only secured three constructors titles during their 19-year partnership, but it was a period of consistent competitiveness that vastly contrasted the midfield performances of McLaren's successive alternatives. It's somewhat surprising, then, that the pairing didn't produce more road cars beyond the SLR, in actual fact, though, their sole road-going project did involve its own fair share of conflict and disagreements.

McLaren was, as it is now, obsessed with the efficiency of its machinery, with its technical boss in at the time, Gordon Murray, being the biggest advocate for keeping things lightweight and naturally aspirated. The SLR was for Murray an opportunity to produce an ultra-slim supercar with a midship atmospheric engine in the spirit of the F1; Mercedes, on the other hand, wanted to produce something more forgiving, comfortable and regularly usable. The car that was born out of the project would leave Murray dissatisfied and, almost two decades later, see him announce his own, true successor to the lightweight naturally-aspirated supercar.


Back in 1999, however, we were given the Vision SLR concept, which set the agenda according to Mercedes's demands. Five years later, the production model followed, weighing in at 1.7 tonnes and using AMG's 5.5-litre V8 with supercharging up front, driving the rear wheels through a five-speed automatic gearbox. The design was handled by AMG with McLaren's input focussing largely on aerodynamics and optimising the form; inside there were part-leather sports seats and familiar Mercedes switchgear leaving the SLR feeling familiar and easy to use, although some didn't think it exotic enough for this very reason.

Many argued the car wasn't sporting enough, either, because while a 626hp output ensured rapid progress, the SLR felt less naturally athletic than similarly exotic alternatives such as the Porsche Carrera GT and Ferrari Enzo. But the McLaren Mercedes was priced at just over £300k back in 2004, which meant it did undercut the highest realms of exotica. And it seems that many people were convinced of its talents, because sales were strong from the off, encouraging the production of several special edition variants that were priced considerably higher.


Much of the SLR's flexibility came from the strength of its base, a carbon fibre tub, which you could say was a technical precursor to the shared architecture of McLaren's present-day line-up. While the production of a carbon part was still exceptionally expensive even at a time when the material had become commonplace in motorsport and supercars, the lack of a roof section in the structure's design meant its rigidity would be unaffected by drastic body alterations that left the base intact. Its inherent stiffness also enabled the use of softer passive damping rates to give all versions of the SLR some of the most forgiving rides in the class. Mercedes's intention to produce a range of ultra-fast but comfortable supercars was achieved.

Still, enthusiasts complained about its faults. The SLR was given a torque convertor auto back in the days when dual clutches were the in thing, its carbon brakes lacked feel unless stood on and the steering rack felt too quick for the application - not to mention the hefty kerbweight that was at odds with its motorsport-esque tub. Yet, despite these supposed flaws, the SLR was an extremely loveable machine. Its M155 engine, a dry-sumped evolution of the supercharged M113 5.5-litre, was butch, burly and tough, as well as being considerably less attention-seeking than the powerplants of rivals, going 10,000 miles between services. That's in a proper supercar with a carbon tub that can crack 200mph.


McLaren's engineering know-how was most evident in the way the SLR was both savagely fast and completely on your side. With none of the spiky supercar stuff you would get in rivals, the SLR was a thunderously vocal (thanks to side exit pipes) pussycat. You could go for miles and miles without feeling tired and then, presented with a twisting road, charge along as if you'd just hopped in and revel in the performance it so willingly offered. It took some time, but slowly more and more came around to the SLR and the shift in opinions was only helped as McLaren produced even more focussed versions, which ditched some GT features for motorsport-infused raciness.

Today, the SLR's reputation is as good as ever, helped somewhat by its old school simplicity (in the context of today's supercars) but also the fact that it remains a genuinely usable high-performance offering. That being said, even a car with an extended service schedule like this will often be subjected to infrequent use, like today's Showpiece, a 3,000-mile 2008 car that's lived most of its life garaged in Jersey. It looks as fresh as the day it left Woking and at £340,000, it's priced as such as well. For someone wanting to relive an era when McLaren regularly did battle with Ferrari on the track, there are few better places to start than its Mercedes supercar.


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E65Ross

Original Poster:

35,080 posts

212 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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Absolutely love these cars, although I'd prefer a coupe if I were given the choice.

WCZ

10,526 posts

194 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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beautiful cars, the market is picking up for these now as people recognize them for what they are

the 722 is the one to go for or an mso

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

gigglebug

2,611 posts

122 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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Not overly keen on the MSO myself, apart from the revised diffuser which look a whole lot better than the standard car's. The 722 always looked the business though.

ntiz

2,340 posts

136 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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It says a lot that there are a lot more of these with high miles than almost any other of this bracket of car.

scottygib553

531 posts

95 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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Were these so maligned back in the day? Aside from the interior they still look fantastic. Silver coupe with turbine wheels please.

Chestrockwell

2,627 posts

157 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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ntiz said:
It says a lot that there are a lot more of these with high miles than almost any other of this bracket of car.
There’s a lady in my village who drives her LHD version daily, well I haven’t seen it for a while but I used to see it all the time, a real presence on the road with the silver and the turbine wheels. G2 AUD, on 19k miles at last MOT.


gigglebug

2,611 posts

122 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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She would struggle to be driving a RHD version to be fair. Still one of my favorite engine notes.

Water Fairy

5,504 posts

155 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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These haven't aged well in my humble opinion and the interior looks really ordinary, dated, 90s Merc.

IF i had the money I'd be going elsewhere without doubt. Great engine of course.

Arsecati

2,310 posts

117 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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Absolutely 100% yes. Loved these then - love them now. Gorgeous.

juice

8,534 posts

282 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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WCZ said:
beautiful cars, the market is picking up for these now as people recognize them for what they are

the 722 is the one to go for or an mso

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
I went up to avantgarde in clevedon to enquire about some work on my car. In the workshop was a 722S convertible. It looked absolutely incredible lick

belleair302

6,843 posts

207 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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Back in the day I remember the back office at McLaren cars moaning about the poor interior design, many parts lifted straight out of existing M-B cars and too much plastic. I think they were right as the dash and centre console are very cheap looking close up. Epic noise but isn't easy to drive fast or slowly.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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Always loved these.
Still remember seeing an entire street come to a standstill in Bradford as a silver one made its way to Khans when he was still down at the showroom in the centre, had an F50 in the window at the time too.
Stunning in the flesh.

swisstoni

16,997 posts

279 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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always looked badly proportioned to me

E65Ross

Original Poster:

35,080 posts

212 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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belleair302 said:
Back in the day I remember the back office at McLaren cars moaning about the poor interior design, many parts lifted straight out of existing M-B cars and too much plastic. I think they were right as the dash and centre console are very cheap looking close up. Epic noise but isn't easy to drive fast or slowly.
I thought they were touted to be very easy to drive, almost ordinary. The ride was slated but I don't think it was ever said to be difficult to drive?

r159

2,261 posts

74 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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I was lucky enough to be involved in the development of these, the engineering was something very special at the time especially the production of the carbon components.

samoht

5,715 posts

146 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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Water Fairy said:
IF i had the money I'd be going elsewhere without doubt. Great engine of course.
+1

Ferrari F12, or stretch to a Lexus LFA ? Or a low-mileage SL55 AMG? AM V12V? Lots of great choices, especially for a third of a million.


ralphrj

3,528 posts

191 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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belleair302 said:
Back in the day I remember the back office at McLaren cars moaning about the poor interior design, many parts lifted straight out of existing M-B cars and too much plastic. I think they were right as the dash and centre console are very cheap looking close up. Epic noise but isn't easy to drive fast or slowly.
The interior was supposed to be supplied by McLaren but was rejected by Mercedes very late in the design process as unacceptably poor.

The production interior was a last minute Mercedes design and whilst generally criticised as cheap looking was actually quite expensive to produce (£8.5k per car).

ralphrj

3,528 posts

191 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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article said:
The British Formula 1 team and German engine supplier might have only secured three constructors titles during their 19-year partnership
They only won one constructors title (1998).

They did win three drivers titles (1998, 1999 and 2008).

soad

32,896 posts

176 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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They were only £120k (for an early coupe) in ~2013 iirc? And roadsters £30k more...

And don’t forget 722 GT!! Those looked super angry! smokin

RobEB

96 posts

95 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
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Money no object i would have one of these. However, thanks to idiotic footballers, we have been left with a few of these munters.