RE: Bugatti Chiron goes 304 mph!

RE: Bugatti Chiron goes 304 mph!

Monday 2nd September 2019

Bugatti Chiron goes 304 mph!

Production car record smashed, Brit Andy Wallace driving - and PH has already spoken to him about it



This has to be one of the most stylish mic drops in automotive history. Bugatti has smashed the production car speed record, taking it beyond 300mph for the first time, but has also confirmed that it won't try to defend the title if anybody does manage to beat it. "We have shown several times that we built the fastest cars in the world. In future we will focus on other areas," company boss Stefan Winkelmann said in the official statement confirming the Chiron's 304.773mph, "Bugatti was the first to exceed 300mph - it's name will go down in the history books and it will stay that way forever."

Ever since the Chiron was launched - with a 261mph speed limiter - the big question has been what it could manage if let off the leash. We've had to wait nearly two years for an answer, with the record set during a week at the Ehra-Lessien test track in Germany. Fittingly, the driver was factory test pilot Andy Wallace, the British sportscar veteran whose CV highlights include having previously set production car records in both the Jaguar XJ220 and McLaren F1.

The car used for the record was in what is described by Bugatti as "near production" spec, with safety modifications and some slightly aerodynamic changes plus a taller seventh gear. It also had a 1600hp version of Bugatti's monstrous quad-turbocharged W-16, 100hp more than the regular Chiron and the same output as the recently announced Centodieci. PH believes the firm will be selling a celebratory limited edition car built to pretty much the same spec.


The record attempt took a huge amount of planning, with a team of engineers from Bugatti, Dallara - which makes the Chiron's body and developed the record car's aero kit - and Michelin, which constructed tyres capable of dealing with the astonishing forces involved in turning up to 4100 times a minute.

"I had a massive amount of trust in all the engineers and a lot of respect for them, likewise the guys from Dallara and Michelin," Wallace says, "when the project started we sat down and went through the risks, drawing a pyramid with the big ones at the bottom and trying to work out ways to eliminate them. But you can never get rid of them completely, and at the top you've still got 'sod's law' - something you just can't control. If you did this enough times it would get you. But if you trust the people you're working with, which I did 100 percent, then in the end you just do it."

To minimise the risk of failure the specially designed Pilot Cup 2 tyres were X-rayed before being fitted to the car. "Inside the tyres you've got all these thin metal strands that go radially around the edge and which are sort of equidistant from each other," Wallace explained, "on quite a lot of tyres there are one or two spots where these strands touch. It's not normally a problem, certainly not at the mandated speed limit, but when you start to go really fast with the huge gravitational force it's possible to get movement there and temperature - which you don't want."


Building up speed was done gradually, with steady-state running to help test that the car's aerodynamics were behaving as they had been predicted too; it was too big and fast for any full-size wind tunnel. The team aimed to exactly balance lift and downforce, but that still meant huge forces running through the Chiron's structure.

"Net zero downforce front and rear sounds easy, as you've got the static weight of the car pushing it down and that's more than heavy enough," Wallace explains, "but it doesn't mean the air is having no effect, it means that there is close to 2000kg on the top surface of the body trying to pick the car off the ground, and another 2000kg under the car trying to pull it back down. So two fighting forces that come to four tonnes roughly, trying to separate the car. So you've got to be absolutely sure that everything on the car is secure enough to go this fast."

Wallace says that the gyroscopic effect of the rotational speed of the tyres was another big issue. "At 200mph you can barely feel it, but at 300mph it's absolutely enormous," he says, likening it the effect of a spinning top, "it's felt mostly on the front wheels and therefore the steering, like a spinning top when it starts to move it wants to continue to move... and when you're doing 136 metres a second there's not much room to play with.


As speeds rose during testing so another sizeable challenge arrived: with the realisation that even the smallest bumps were having a big effect. "They had resurfaced one end of the track at Ehra, and once you come off the banking you're building speed on the 8.8km main straight," Wallace says, "at exactly 477km/h [277mph] the car would go from the new surface to the old surface and I got to calling this 'the jump' - a bump that you'd barely notice in a normal car, but at that speed it felt huge. If you go over that and land and there's a bit of sidewind then you lose feeling and suddenly lose confidence."

After four days on the track the Chiron had managed a peak speed of 482.5km/h - 299.8mph, tantalizingly close to the 300mph barrier - but progress seemed to have stalled with fractional changes to the car's suspension to improve stability. But Wallace remembers feeling much more confident after taking 'the jump' on what turned out to be the record run. "After it landed and had a bit of a weave about I thought it's the best it's been, the cross wind was a bit less and I just kept it pinned," he says, "the strange thing is that there's a radar speed display half way down the straight, but it's obviously never been calibrated for something so fast, I went past it and it flashed up 502km/h! I looked at my gauge and it was only doing 476km/h on the GPS, so I kept my foot in and saw it get past 490km/h, but then I was running short on room."

Slowing down at such huge speeds requires more than just dropping the anchors. "You have to do it gently," Wallace says, "you don't want to shift the aero too much and lose control of the car, even when all your instincts are telling you to stand on the brakes."


But having slowed enough for the banked turn, Wallace was the only one who realised that the record had fallen for several minutes; the Chiron had gone so fast the telemetry system relaying speed had failed to keep up.

"I saw the speed on the GPS and I was thanking everyone on the way back to the pit area over the radio," he says, "they couldn't work out why I was so happy - the fastest they'd seen was 479km/h, and we'd already gone faster than that. Then I stopped and they dived into the recording equipment on the car and looked through it, found the speed and they all went mental."

Yet if it hadn't run out of space on the world's longest test track, Wallace confirms the Chiron would have gone quicker. "The speed trace hadn't leveled out, it was still climbing," he admits. Ehra-Lessien is also just 150ft above sea level, at higher altitudes - like those on the roads used by Koenigsegg for its 277.9mph real world record in 2017 - it would encounter much less air resistance.


"A lot of people will just say 'you drove a Bugatti at 300mph, whoever you put in it could have done that' and maybe that's even true," Wallace says, "if you win at Le Mans or Daytona then there's a lot more of that being down to the driver, I'm well aware of that. But when you think about it, it's still pretty bloody cool. If somebody said to me two years ago that I was going to go over 300mph I'd have thought they were out of their mind."

This might be a record that Bugatti won't try to better, but it could still last a very long time given the huge effort the company put into setting it. Does it also mark the end of Wallace's record setting? "I can safely say I've had enough excitement to last me for a while, thanks very much," he says, "but you should never say never... Just as an aside I spent the next week after doing the run driving around really slowly and being quite happy - doing 10 or 15mph under the speed limit everywhere."


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itlab

142 posts

64 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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Top gear have just posted a vid of a Chiron doing 304mph

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkiyAZ63RT8

crazy, so who will be the next brand to break 300mph?

Nickbrapp

5,277 posts

131 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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That’s a amazing feat of engineering. I didn’t think I would ever see that

Dave Hedgehog

14,584 posts

205 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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wow

a production car that can go 230 mph over the speed limit

now that would be an interesting conversation in court lol

Byker28i

60,295 posts

218 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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Dave Hedgehog said:
wow

a production car that can go 230 mph over the speed limit

now that would be an interesting conversation in court lol
in the UK... now think about other places where there are unrestricted limits.

More to the point - whats the fuel consumption at that speed. Didn't Clarkson test a car that would only do 20 mins flat out

Equus

16,980 posts

102 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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Impressive in as much as it did it on 'only' 1,500 horsepower and in something you could notionally drive to the shops... but Sir Malcolm Campbell did the the same speed, wheel driven, almost exactly (anniversary tomorrow) 84 years ago.

Monkeylegend

26,479 posts

232 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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Acceleration from 450 up to 490 was pretty leisurely smile

Unsorted

298 posts

63 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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Dave Hedgehog said:
wow

a production car that can go 230 mph over the speed limit

now that would be an interesting conversation in court lol
Proving you cant outrun the radio?

(Old line I know.)

smithyithy

7,260 posts

119 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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itlab said:
crazy, so who will be the next brand to break 300mph?
My money would be on Koenigsegg.

Amazing thing though, 300mph seemed unfathomable at one point..

BrabusMog

20,192 posts

187 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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490kph, jesus! Surprised they didn't go for 500 just to make it a round number biggrin

WCZ

10,545 posts

195 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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Absolutely nuts, the eb110 tribute thing has an extra 100hp too and let’s not forget the supersport isn’t out yet either, can see that hitting 310+ !

Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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Was hoping Koenigsegg would be the first.

Chrismawa

553 posts

101 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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Koenigsegg: "Hold my beer...."

Zarco

17,916 posts

210 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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Byker28i said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
wow

a production car that can go 230 mph over the speed limit

now that would be an interesting conversation in court lol
in the UK... now think about other places where there are unrestricted limits.

More to the point - whats the fuel consumption at that speed. Didn't Clarkson test a car that would only do 20 mins flat out
Now think about doing 300mph on the public road unrestricted or not. You're probably doing twice what even the typical autobahn user is 'expecting' you to be doing.

Mental feat of engineering. Hats off to Bugatti.

Fonzey

2,066 posts

128 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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Incredible!

Jimi.K.

238 posts

78 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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Byker28i said:
More to the point - whats the fuel consumption at that speed. Didn't Clarkson test a car that would only do 20 mins flat out
Mercedes McLaren SLR if I remember correctly

Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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Byker28i said:
More to the point - whats the fuel consumption at that speed.
I think you're missing the point! wink

kambites

67,618 posts

222 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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Byker28i said:
in the UK... now think about other places where there are unrestricted limits.
I don't think the German police would think much of you doing 300mph on the autobahn either. hehe

Velox56

Original Poster:

170 posts

80 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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So does this actually count as a production car? as it states its near production spec. But either way that is mental smile !

Love the colour too.

Harry_S

26 posts

151 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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Amazing achievement and a real testament to the Bugatti/Dilara/Michelin engineers endeavour cannot see this record ever being beaten. You can tell the skill level Andy Wallace has just by listening to his words after the run. Epic

The Hypno-Toad

12,292 posts

206 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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Amazing engineering, fantastical brave driving, incredible achievement.

Utterly pointless.

1.) Where apart from on that track can you do it?
2.) I know a lot of billionaire car collectors have done a lot of driver training and might even have done some racing but how many of them could hang onto that going that quickly?
3.) How much preparation would it need to do that speed? Presumably you need to borrow bods from the factory to make sure the car is safe to do that speed, the weather to be right and everything to be organised in your private life to have the one day when the stars align and you can give it a go.

Don't get me wrong, I love cars and always have done but this car is just designed for that select group of billionaire buyers who rock up in London once a year and to get brag about the fact "they have the worlds fastest car," even though it will probably never see the wrong side of 150mph. It also fuels the fire of the like of the climate change and speed campaigners bellowing about dangerous cars are and how much fuel this car gulps. This then in turn will make life more difficult for the rest of us to enjoy driving in our MX-5s, BMWs, Audis, Astons or even Mclarens, which have might have worked bloody hard for as it will help trigger more ill-feeling against people who love driving.

(and no this isn't jealously because even if I win the £107million tomorrow, I wouldn't be buying a Bugatti anyway. I know my limits and the interior as always been too chintzy for me. I am sure VAG group will be devastated they won't get my potential custom. hehe )

As I said at the top, what a brilliant achievement but in this day and age it is utterly pointless & will only speed up the decline of opportunities for drivers who like to put their foot down every now and then. If you don't believe me wait until you see the headlines when a Bugatti has even the mildest fender-bender in central London.





Edited by The Hypno-Toad on Monday 2nd September 09:33