RE: H.R. Owen's Ken Choo | PH Meets

RE: H.R. Owen's Ken Choo | PH Meets

Tuesday 17th September 2019

H.R. Owen's Ken Choo | PH Meets

The H.R. Owen CEO on deciding the spec of Gordon Ramsay's Ferrari and overseeing every single sale



There isn't a petrolhead alive who hasn't dreamt of buying a supercar at some point; deciding on a spec, visiting an immaculate dealership, the agony of waiting for collection. For a select few H.R. Owen is one of the places you go to make that dream a reality. It's the world's biggest retailer for Bugatti, Bentley, Rolls-Royce and Lamborghini - and its ambitions do not stop there either. The firm has just opened a swanky new Mayfair Ferrari dealership, presenting PH with the ideal opportunity to sit down with CEO Ken Choo and talk shop.

Choo is an interesting guy, obviously brimming with energy for what is, by anyone's measure, a considerable workload (he's also CEO of Cardiff City FC and FC Kortrijk in Belgium, as well as heading up H.R Owen since the start of 2017). He speaks quickly and at length about everything from his 812 Superfast - "superb" - to charity dinners, hybridisation and the changes afoot in supercar buying.

Given our location, Choo is predictably keen to discuss the ongoing relationship with Maranello: "Ferrari as a company, even as a small company, know exactly what they want to do, exactly how to get there, how to sort their strategy and management." The potential, he reckons, is huge even after eight decades, and intrinsically linked to its considerable investment in R&D. "They're always trying to improve", notes Choo, who sees the SF90 Stradale as hugely important for the brand - and has bought one, of course - because of its ability to run emissions-free in a city without sacrificing the "soul of an engine" when its needed. Apparently lots of buyers in this realm aren't willing to embrace electric just yet - though HRO's recent acquisition of Pur Italia and Rimac franchises for the UK may soon change that - the majority preferring a best of both worlds compromise. "It's a no-brainer", the Malaysian says.


This being 2019, SUVs are inevitably part of the discussion as well. While he won't be drawn on any Ferrari 'FUV' conjecture, Choo says that H.R. Owen has seen that between 60 and 70 per cent of Lamborghini's Urus customers are new to the brand. But how do manufacturers retain the mystique that comes with low volume supercar production as numbers continue to rise? Choo sees the solution as fairly simple, at least in certain instances. "There's always exclusivity if you limit a production run"; he points to a Portofino that shares showroom space with the F8 and says: "If we said this was limited to 100 cars, it would sell out tomorrow."

Maranello is considered the exemplar at doing this, carefully managing supply and demand to keep customers content - "they protect the brand very well" - and ensure the demand is there for upcoming models. Choo mentions that not every HRO customer was interested in the latest Monza car at debut, yet the moment they were all gone those same clients were desperately keen to get hold of one. "If you don't want it, there's always someone else who does" is his view on limited run cars, which seems to hold especially true for Ferrari.

Aston Martin is a fascinating discussion point, the brand obviously facing a few issues at present following its IPO. Choo talks of the cycles every manufacturer faces, as demand ebbs and flows with product launches and how investment takes time to yield results. Having visited St Athan the week before our chat, where £60m is being spent, don't forget, Choo says Aston "is really doing the right thing." Interestingly, HR Owen was once a public company before going back into private ownership, the boss noting that it's easier to pursue a long-term vision when you don't have shareholders to keep happy. However, as the Aston range diversifies, the effects of the product cycle will be felt less harshly, he believes. That DBX, surely, can't come soon enough...


So those are some of the brands - Choo has "not much comment at this time" on Bugatti - but how do you actually go about selling supercars to the rich and (sometimes) famous? Unsurprisingly buyers aren't cajoled or coerced; the majority know what they want and how they want it before they arrive at the showroom. The personal touch remains essential, though - supercar buying solely from a website is deemed unlikely for now. Instead Choo talks of relationships, networking and portfolios; the building of a rapport beneficial to all parties. Clients are encouraged to get more from their purchases through one-to-one attention and tailored events. The level of trust can quickly become implicit: his team are responsible for Gordon Ramsay's cars to the extent that all paint and trim decisions are left in H.R. Owen's hands. "We're so pleased to be associated with Gordon", is the CEO's view, "though we do sometimes think: 'Oh sh*t, what if we've got this one wrong!'"

Both the personalisation side of speccing and manufacturer-sponsored drive experiences are said to be more popular than ever, customers keen to have something unique but also eager to use it, which is heartening news when so many supercars seem solely destined for collections. "More clients are demanding more events to drive their cars more", says Choo, "as they are bored of buying to put in a garage."

So what comes next? Well, more boutique dealerships like the Ferrari one, actually. The man in charge is adamant that their intimate atmosphere suits sales of these cars better than a sprawling showroom. New ones for Bentley and Aston are coming, and you'd imagine for the EV brands also. Almost business as usual then - just with more of it going on than ever. Which seems to be just how Ken Choo likes it.


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Paddy78

Original Poster:

208 posts

147 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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Is this the one that was on Broke Britain? They weren't paying their cleaners the living wage... I guess you have to cut corners somewhere when you have a massive showroom in Mayfair.

Absolute scum.

Chubbyross

4,551 posts

86 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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Paddy78 said:
Is this the one that was on Broke Britain? They weren't paying their cleaners the living wage... I guess you have to cut corners somewhere when you have a massive showroom in Mayfair.

Absolute scum.
Ooh, that’s the PH naughty step for you!

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

124 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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Paddy78 said:
Is this the one that was on Broke Britain? They weren't paying their cleaners the living wage... I guess you have to cut corners somewhere when you have a massive showroom in Mayfair.

Absolute scum.
It was the cleaning agency who were underpaying them.

https://www.thecanary.co/uk/2017/11/03/one-britain...

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,070 posts

99 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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Must be a busy guy. Sounds like you only spoke for 5 minutes from the actual content of the article

oilit

2,634 posts

179 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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Must be a quiet news day - or someone who spends a fair bit on advertising has asked for a bit of free PR

LOL

rserwata

7 posts

57 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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Can see it now, Gordon's showroom nightmares coming to a TV near you soon😭😭

sidesauce

2,490 posts

219 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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BlackLabel said:
Paddy78 said:
Is this the one that was on Broke Britain? They weren't paying their cleaners the living wage... I guess you have to cut corners somewhere when you have a massive showroom in Mayfair.

Absolute scum.
It was the cleaning agency who were underpaying them.

https://www.thecanary.co/uk/2017/11/03/one-britain...
@Paddy78 - where's your big mouth now?

Truckosaurus

11,346 posts

285 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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Article said:
...his team are responsible for Gordon Ramsay's cars to the extent that all paint and trim decisions are left in H.R. Owen's hands...
This might be the single most disheartening sentence of motoring journalism I have read in a long time.

Jilted John was right.

Plate spinner

17,739 posts

201 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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oilit said:
Must be a quiet news day - or someone who spends a fair bit on advertising has asked for a bit of free PR

LOL
Agreed, utter cringe.

Buster73

5,071 posts

154 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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Truckosaurus said:
This might be the single most disheartening sentence of motoring journalism I have read in a long time.

Jilted John was right.
After a few beers the other week , we started singing that song , well it was more than a few ...

TobyTR

1,068 posts

147 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
Must be a busy guy. Sounds like you only spoke for 5 minutes from the actual content of the article
Indeed.

And a celebrity chef known for his creativity, work ethic and passion, yet he can't be bothered to spec his new Ferraris... Disgraceful.

chelme

1,353 posts

171 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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anonymous said:
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Speaking from experience?

cookie1600

2,132 posts

162 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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Perhaps getting HRO to spec the paint and interior is just another way of optimising resale value.

I mean Gordon Ramsey seems to be constantly off around the World, swearing in some poor gits face. He can't be home much to drive what he buys. More speculation just for accumulation?

147lusso

173 posts

143 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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Paddy78 said:
Is this the one that was on Broke Britain? They weren't paying their cleaners the living wage... I guess you have to cut corners somewhere when you have a massive showroom in Mayfair.

Absolute scum.
Corbyn, is that you?!

TartanPaint

2,992 posts

140 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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oilit said:
Must be a quiet news day - or someone who spends a fair bit on advertising has asked for a bit of free PR

LOL
Are we going to have this nonsense every time PH speak to somebody interesting?

PH is a business. HR Owen is a business. Even if this is promotion (and I don't care if it is or not) it still benefits us, the readers. So who cares?

Paddy78

Original Poster:

208 posts

147 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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sidesauce said:
BlackLabel said:
Paddy78 said:
Is this the one that was on Broke Britain? They weren't paying their cleaners the living wage... I guess you have to cut corners somewhere when you have a massive showroom in Mayfair.

Absolute scum.
It was the cleaning agency who were underpaying them.

https://www.thecanary.co/uk/2017/11/03/one-britain...
@Paddy78 - where's your big mouth now?
It's here. The programme covered the incident in fairly high detail. Agency or not, HR Owen doing nothing to intervene except when they had a couple of hundred people protesting outside of their showroom. You could argue that this wasn't HR Owen's issue, but when you are trying to pass yourself off at the highest end of luxury, the least you could do is make sure your 2 cleaners were getting paid fairly... or put some pressure on the agency when you knew they'd been sacked for having the temerity to ask for £10.55 an hour. HR Owen could have resolved the issue in 10 minutes without even noticing the increase in overhead, but they chose to do nothing until they caught some heat - hence scum.

S1KRR

12,548 posts

213 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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Paddy78 said:
It's here. The programme covered the incident in fairly high detail. Agency or not, HR Owen doing nothing to intervene except when they had a couple of hundred people protesting outside of their showroom. You could argue that this wasn't HR Owen's issue, but when you are trying to pass yourself off at the highest end of luxury, the least you could do is make sure your 2 cleaners were getting paid fairly... or put some pressure on the agency when you knew they'd been sacked for having the temerity to ask for £10.55 an hour. HR Owen could have resolved the issue in 10 minutes without even noticing the increase in overhead, but they chose to do nothing until they caught some heat - hence scum.
I assume that you will be now giving everyone underneath you a £2 per hour pay rise biggrin

After all. I daresay you wont notice the increase....


They aren't breaking the law at anything over NMW. The cleaners in this case knew the pay BEFORE they signed up. I don't see how guilting a dealer into a pay rise works out well in the long run. Someone has to pay for it. Probably the rest of their permanent staff who don't get a pay rise, since it wont be their customers.

chelme

1,353 posts

171 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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anonymous said:
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No, I am not cross. I just pity people like you, all passive aggressive, narrow minded and sad, who bring nothing but negativity to any subject that falls outside their remit of appreciation.

Live and let live I say.

Paddy78

Original Poster:

208 posts

147 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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S1KRR said:
Paddy78 said:
It's here. The programme covered the incident in fairly high detail. Agency or not, HR Owen doing nothing to intervene except when they had a couple of hundred people protesting outside of their showroom. You could argue that this wasn't HR Owen's issue, but when you are trying to pass yourself off at the highest end of luxury, the least you could do is make sure your 2 cleaners were getting paid fairly... or put some pressure on the agency when you knew they'd been sacked for having the temerity to ask for £10.55 an hour. HR Owen could have resolved the issue in 10 minutes without even noticing the increase in overhead, but they chose to do nothing until they caught some heat - hence scum.
I assume that you will be now giving everyone underneath you a £2 per hour pay rise biggrin

After all. I daresay you wont notice the increase....


They aren't breaking the law at anything over NMW. The cleaners in this case knew the pay BEFORE they signed up. I don't see how guilting a dealer into a pay rise works out well in the long run. Someone has to pay for it. Probably the rest of their permanent staff who don't get a pay rise, since it wont be their customers.
I like to think that anyone who works for me gets paid fairly and that pay gets reviewed regularly. I'm not fitting the bill personally, but the department has a budget for remuneration. I presume you knew the pay before you started your last job, so does that mean you'd be happy if you never got an increase? They aren't breaking the law, but to me it is morally wrong for clearly wealthy companies to not pay their staff fairly, especially when these are some of the poorest working people in the UK. I would find this reprehensible in a less affluent part of the UK, but it really doesn't sit well with me in one of the richest. I'm sure HR Owen are far from alone in this practice, but the article was about them and it incensed me. smile

S1KRR

12,548 posts

213 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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Paddy78 said:
.. I presume you knew the pay before you started your last job, so does that mean you'd be happy if you never got an increase?...


They aren't breaking the law, but to me it is morally wrong for clearly wealthy companies to not pay their staff fairly, especially when these are some of the poorest working people in the UK. I would find this reprehensible in a less affluent part of the UK, but it really doesn't sit well with me in one of the richest. I'm sure HR Owen are far from alone in this practice, but the article was about them and it incensed me. smile
1) Yes I did. And I got a mild increase in line less than inflation. My role has evolved so I guess I'm underpaid relatively speaking. Do you know what I'll do? I'll change employer. Not whinge to the media.

2) They paid their staff what the job role required. So far as I can see the cleaners were doing EXACTLY the same job, so they didn't require an increase in pay. If they are not happy they can always go and work elsewhere. That's the free market. Odd that they didn't, which suggests they were already being paid more than other cleaning companies.

3) How much money do you ACTUALLY think HR Owen make per car sold? It's probably less than £1500. Regardless of the ticket price And they aren't banging them out 10 a day are they.