RE: New 625hp BMW X5 and X6 M set for LA

RE: New 625hp BMW X5 and X6 M set for LA

Wednesday 2nd October 2019

New 625hp BMW X5 and X6 M set for LA

Is third time a charm for M Division's most divisive pair?



Believe it or not - like it or not might be more apt - the BMW M 'X' cars have been around for 10 years now, and as such are a mainstay of the range. For the third generation of X5 and X6 M, BMW believes it has made cars with class-leading "dynamism, precision and agility." It also talks of "flamboyant design", though you'd imagine that refers to one of these cars rather more than the other.

Anyway, like the previous iterations of M X5 (not like that) and X6, much is borrowed from the contemporary M5, from how the interior looks to what's underneath. So the twin-turbo 4.4-litre V8 is here, making 600hp as standard or 625hp in Competition trim. Also making use of the eight-speed Steptronic auto and M xDrive all-wheel drive tech, these mighty SUVs - oh, sorry, Sports Activity Vehicle and Sports Activity Coupe - are capable of, in their least powerful guises, 0-62mph in 3.9 seconds and 0-124mph in 13.7 seconds. Seriously. They'll do 180mph with the right option boxes ticked, otherwise 155 is your maximum.


Then, just to prove how silly this uber SUV thing is becoming, the press release mentions - with no apparent sense of irony - the "cooling and oil supply systems designed for track use." Remember these cars weigh 2,295kg each, before a driver has sat in one. Misguided focus or not, BMW has gone to the effort of fitting both X5 and X6 M with an extra elehard stint (if the engine has been turned off too soon, basically), an engine oil cooler in the right wheel arch, a dedicated transmission oil cooler, and a sump with a supplementary smaller sump - "that steps in when extra capacity is needed." It might seem absurd to be discussing, but BMW M really does appear to have gone to extraordinary lengths to make these cars as fit as they can be for track.

It goes further, too. Like the M5 from which they draw so much, the X5 and X6 M use the rear-biased xDrive with rear M diff, promising 'unruffled poise at all times" and torque distribution of "creamy smoothness". There's also the 4WD Sport mode that suits the saloon so well, here said to bring "extra intensity to the drive", though mercifully M Division has drawn the line at a drift mode. Adaptive suspension tuning was done at the Nordschleife, sharp dynamics are promised thanks to new suspension mountings, "extremely high" levels of camber, forged arms, strut braces for strengthening and bespoke kinematics, and there's active roll stabilisation as well. Phew.

BMW's new integrated braking system - which features on the M8 that we can't tell you about yet - is also standard fit on the X5 and X6, combining brake activation, brake booster and braking control into one module, but also offering 'Comfort' and 'Sport' as two brake pedal feel settings. The brakes themselves are 395mm at the front, grabbed by six-piston fixed calipers, with a 380mm rotor behind clasped by single-piston floating calipers. Somewhat staggeringly, ceramic brakes are not mentioned anywhere in the release; given these extremely heavy cars are apparently aimed at circuit use, and BMW's iron brakes still don't have the best reputation for stamina, that seems an oversight - let's see. The tyres and wheels in front of those brakes are 21s all around on the standard car (with 295/35 front, 315/25 rear tyres), with the Competition upgrading the rear wheels to 22s.


Many will no doubt already have their own opinion on the way these two look, though it would be remiss not to draw attention to what has been changed from standard for the X5 and X6 M. Air for all that cooling work is provided by larger intakes, the kidney grille is blacked out, the wing mirrors are "aerodynamically optimised" and there are, of course, bolstered arches and four exhausts - these are still M cars. But, really, let's be honest, all anyone is actually going to talk about is Urban Green being introduced to the colour charts. More BMW Individual colours are coming, fear not...

So that's your introduction to the F95 and F96 M cars, a vehicle concept that BMW says "reprises the classical M blueprint for dynamics, agility and precision; combines with the versatility, extrovert design and modern luxury for which BMW X models are renowned." They sound really quite good when put like that. Following a debut at the LA show in November - where else? - the X5 and X6 M will be launched together next April. Just in time for track day season...


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Roma101

Original Poster:

838 posts

148 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2019
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Your hate of BMW SUVs with big engines is now detracting from the actual articles. We get the point now. Try and be a bit more impartial.


dotgillingham

37 posts

96 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2019
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Both gopping in their own, unique way, but the 'coupe' takes the top prize.

Plate spinner

17,729 posts

201 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2019
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We’ll look back on cars like this in the same way we now look back at the American 1950s chromed finned land yachts: wasteful, inelegant, of their time and loved by a few.

Dapster

6,968 posts

181 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2019
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I may be in a group of 1 here, but the only thing standing between me and a 625bhp X5 is about £120,000. I'd love one of these!

9k rpm

521 posts

211 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2019
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X5 in black for me. Plenty of room for my AK47, RPG and few Kg of Columbian marching powder.

cerb4.5lee

30,734 posts

181 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2019
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I'd be one of the quickest on the school run in one of those...where do I sign! biggrin

FA57REN

1,021 posts

56 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2019
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Dapster said:
I may be in a group of 1 here, but the only thing standing between me and a 625bhp X5 is about £120,000. I'd love one of these!
What would you *do* with it though? They seem too huge and heavy for a B-road adventure, and totally overpowered for a boring motorway cruise where they'll be ticking-over at 2000rpm in sixth.

I just don't get it. Why not a hot hatch + base X5 and still have money in the pension?

Dave Hedgehog

14,569 posts

205 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2019
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dotgillingham said:
Both gopping in their own, unique way, but the 'coupe' takes the top prize.
gopping is the primary design language of modern BMWs

T1berious

2,266 posts

156 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2019
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If (and it's a pretty monster sized if..) you needed one car to do it all, then OK, I can see the appeal of one of these. Is it for me? No but I accept that I'm not in the target demographic as I wouldn't, if I had 120 large, drop it on either of these. I'd be heading over to the Audi RS6 but it's not like the VW Group haven't got form in this market (Step up Cayenne Turbo S).

Then again in this changing times (or should that be charging times?) I'd take that cash and go to the Taycan and enjoy my high speed kicks guilt free. All the options at this market point are not about driving enjoyment anyway.

X5M + track day... yes.. of course.. makes perfect sense.

pb8g09

2,344 posts

70 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2019
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Sorry, take away my PH account, but I actually quite like the X5 and would have it over any other SUV....

The X6 is ghastly though.

gigglebug

2,611 posts

123 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2019
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FA57REN said:
What would you *do* with it though? They seem too huge and heavy for a B-road adventure, and totally overpowered for a boring motorway cruise where they'll be ticking-over at 2000rpm in sixth.

I just don't get it. Why not a hot hatch + base X5 and still have money in the pension?
Drive it and enjoy it presumably. Not sure why it would have to fall within your two very narrow criteria for using a car for it be relevant. You would also have thought that most folks spending 120K on this would be able to buy a hot hatch at the same time anyway and still have plenty left over for the pension if that's what they desired so your point is moot.

aeropilot

34,670 posts

228 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2019
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Perfect car for many people who's prime car buying reason is to 'make a statement'..........they'll sell loads of them in the USA.

I can't even buy a 'sensible' new spec G05 X5, as even those are 'fashion statement' spec by default and they can't even see the absurdity of offering a 'off-road' package' but no longer the option of even basic spec all-season tyres to make use of that and the 2-axle air suspension, not to mention a raft of other idiotic fashion statement options and tat......... rolleyes


sidesauce

2,480 posts

219 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2019
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Dave Hedgehog said:
dotgillingham said:
Both gopping in their own, unique way, but the 'coupe' takes the top prize.
gopping is the primary design language of modern BMWs
I'm biased but I think the i8 is an inspired piece of design - judging from the overwhelmingly positive reaction of the general public 5 years after it first came out, they would also agree...

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2019
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FA57REN said:
What would you *do* with it though? They seem too huge and heavy for a B-road adventure, and totally overpowered for a boring motorway cruise where they'll be ticking-over at 2000rpm in sixth.

I just don't get it. Why not a hot hatch + base X5 and still have money in the pension?
All about the image isn't it? Black out the windows, and even the most orange of wags or that short balding company director can have that trendy Gangsta look.

Sadly I suspect these will appeal to people who really don't have very much else going on of interest in their life outside their obsession with their own image. Getting one of these at least makes their lack of confidence feel less visible I suppose.

Anyway my god that X6 is ugly and as for testing a SUV at the Nordschleife, that's just plain ridiculous!

b14

1,063 posts

189 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2019
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Come on Pistonheads. I'm bored of car publications not actually saying what you think. They are clearly about as ugly as cars can get these days, but all you do is make a back handed comment re what other people might think. Please get off the fence and stop trying to avoid the ire of the hand that feeds you - it's not a good look.

gigglebug

2,611 posts

123 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2019
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Andy20vt said:
All about the image isn't it? Black out the windows, and even the most orange of wags or that short balding company director can have that trendy Gangsta look.

Sadly I suspect these will appeal to people who really don't have very much else going on of interest in their life outside their obsession with their own image. Getting one of these at least makes their lack of confidence feel less visible I suppose.

Anyway my god that X6 is ugly and as for testing a SUV at the Nordschleife, that's just plain ridiculous!
What sort of folks drive RS6's then? Is it just really cool people like yourself?

AmosMoses

4,042 posts

166 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2019
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Utterly ridiculous, not what BMW should be making, hardly the ultimate driving machine!

But forget all that, I'd have one laugh

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2019
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gigglebug said:
What sort of folks drive RS6's then? Is it just really cool people like yourself?
I've no idea as you really don't see that many around. Unlike a large, brash SUV it's fairly discreet. Not too shouty or flashy. Only those in the know seem to reaslise what it is. To most it's just some old Audi estate car, nothing special, and I quite like that.

vtecyo

2,122 posts

130 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2019
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Dapster said:
I'd love one of these!
Same, although I'd prefer a Trackhawk I think for the sheer lunacy.

C.MW

474 posts

70 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2019
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The 'coupe' can't get more hideous than that in the looks department. That may be the only achievement this abomination will be remembered for in 10 or 20 years time.