RE: 2020 Hyundai i30 N to get DCT and new exhaust

RE: 2020 Hyundai i30 N to get DCT and new exhaust

Tuesday 14th April 2020

Dual-clutch auto lined up for i30 N | Update

Hyundai has announced a new eight-speed automatic for the Veloster N. Expect it to be shared elsewhere...



The Hyundai i30 N’s exclusive use of a six-speed manual has only ever added to its enthusiast appeal, but in a world where DSGs and EDCs outsell their equivalents, the introduction of an automatic has always seemed an inevitability. The Veloster N in America has just received its first auto option, suggesting that three years into its life the hot i30 will also soon be given a two-pedal setup – probably the same eight-speed dual clutcher that’s gone into the Veloster.

Hyundai has made no secret of its intent to add such a transmission to the i30 N – everyone up to R&D boss Albert Biermann having confirmed it – but it is a surprise that it’s taken this long. Perhaps the brand had some technical difficulties mating the 275hp turbocharged T-GDI motor with a dual-clutch ‘box, or maybe it wanted to cement the N brand’s enthusiast focus before adding this paddle shift version.


Either way, the talents of 21st century gearbox tech mean the NDCT car will almost certainly be quicker off the mark, more fuel efficient and cleaner than the manual. Dual clutch ‘boxes are notoriously heavy, so we can expect a slight increase on the i30’s 1.4-tonne kerb weight, but with eight speeds to the manual’s six, the auto should hold an advantage for overall pace. As shown by lesser Hyundais with autos, the Korean brand also knows how to tune refinement and comfort into its transmissions, so a more broadly talented package ought to give the Golf GTI a closer run for its money.

Setting the i30 N auto apart from its rivals will be the car’s N mode, which we already know from the manual to have one of the most antisocial exhaust notes on sale. Expect Hyundai’s N division boffins to maintain the gargles, crackles and pops in the auto, with the quicker shift times helping to enhance the car’s wannabe BTCC character even more. Don’t necessarily expect any more power from the engine, though, the brand having said at the i30 N Fastback’s launch that the i30’s evolution is to centre around chassis improvements instead.

Hyundai UK hasn’t yet been able to confirm to PH whether the auto option will be headed here for sure (it’s chasing an official answer from Europe HQ as you read this), but with Britain being one of the marque’s strongest markets, it does look to be an inevitability. And with the hard work of tuning a two-pedal setup for N division tastes done, you might imagine Hyundai will kick-off the launch of its next-gen i30 N – a car that’s already in the works – with both manual and auto options available from the get go.

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Original story: 15.10.2019


The Hyundai i30 N will be three years old next year (how time flies!) which means a mid-life facelift is due at some point soon; while we're expecting the usual minor tweaks here and there, there will also be some pretty substantial new additions beneath the skin. Top of the expected list is Hyundai's DCT automatic, which Albert Biermann has previously confirmed will make it to the i30 N. But there'll also be further tweaks to the chassis in anticipation of new rivals - another Golf GTI isn't far off, for example - and, somewhat surprisingly, it looks like a new exhaust system is coming, too.

Before we get to the prospect of that likely even more anti-social setup, the seven-speed DCT stands out as the most significant new arrival for 2020. For starters, it'll broaden the i30 N's appeal, while also slightly quickening straight-line performance and knocking a gram or two off the CO2 figures. And it means for the first time the i30 N can join the likes of Ford's Focus ST and VW's Golf GTI in coming with a choice of two transmissions.


The i30 N Fastback was given new bushes and slightly revised suspension settings to match when it launched early this year, improving ride comfort and refinement. Those tweaks will be added to the hatch in 2020, but we're expecting a second batch of chassis updates to accompany them - PH understands Hyundai is keen to rival the Golf's broad chassis talents so this has been high on the agenda during development. While it's not like the i30 N is far from stiff in normal modes (that excludes the teeth shattering N mode!), there's certainly scope for a slackened off comfort.

It won't all be about plushness, however, as illustrated by the new exhaust and wheels fitted to the spied test cars. The twin pipes are of bigger bore and those wheels look ever so racy, suggesting the 2020 i30 N might be even more vocal in its more focussed drive modes - and could be wearing aggressive new details under all that cladding. Such changes would certainly help extend the i30 N's USP against rivals; although it won't necessarily mean more power from the T-GDi 2.0-litre at this stage. Further into the future, however, we're still optimistic of a more powerful option - as previewed by the recent Time Attack carand its larger turbocharger...





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BlackPorker

Original Poster:

378 posts

175 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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Last time I spoke to a Hyundai dealer they were adamant there would be no DCT. Ever.

Portrait

240 posts

186 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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BlackPorker said:
Last time I spoke to a Hyundai dealer they were adamant there would be no DCT. Ever.
Of course they would say that. They want to sell you what's available at that very moment

housen

2,366 posts

192 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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Portrait said:
BlackPorker said:
Last time I spoke to a Hyundai dealer they were adamant there would be no DCT. Ever.
Of course they would say that. They want to sell you what's available at that very moment

Sport_220

233 posts

174 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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Very interested to see how this turns out, lets hope they can keep the price point similar to the current model with just a few tweeks. DCT will ruin the whole point of this car, aka fun!

But most importantly of all lets pray it comes with silver alloys, black alloys look ste and are so last year!

Reciprocating mass

6,030 posts

241 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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BlackPorker said:
Last time I spoke to a Hyundai dealer they were adamant there would be no DCT. Ever.
The mistake you made there was to ever believe any crap that comes out of a salesman’s mouth

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

179 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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As long as the six-speed manual stays, I suppose it's ok!

I think that DCT will take the bulk of sales though, unfortunately

Big Robbo

319 posts

146 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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I just wish they would stop fannying about and sort out the i20 N

Kev_Mk3

2,771 posts

95 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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Don't listen to the dealers a lot of the time they don't have a clue, only a few actually do the research to what the car is and what it comes with.

Around the Nurburgring there is talk of 300bhp and 4pot breaks on the next model. DCT has been talked about for a long time and lets hope it doesn't sound like a fart cannon like on all other DCT boxe's.

Also hope the build quality is better than the current model. My passenger door handle snapped off within 3 weeks and the first time using it............................ I know that they have rejected others under warranty but as my car is so new they haven't said a thing

GTiWILL

780 posts

78 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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I’m sorry to go off on a tangent here, however I feel I need to stick my head above the parapet here and respond to some of the posts above.

For background, I’ve worked in a main franchised motor dealer (in sales) for 12 years.

I doubt very much the salesperson was thinking of his own pocket when saying Hyundai would never do an i30N with a DCT. Chances are, they were just repeating the last bit of information given to them by Hyundai, or repeating something another colleague had said. Manufacturers do tend to keep their cards close to their chest, and often inform the centres of updates to vehicles long after the rumour mill has been going.

The reason for me getting into this job was due to being a petrol head. It’s not because I’m a liar, a cock or whatever other negative name you care to call me. It’s because I like cars and enjoy talking to people. Believe it or not, I pride myself on my customer service. I’m not the only salesperson with this outlook either, although I accept any industry will have a few bad apples.

It’s therefore quite disheartening when you come on here to see the same old drivel spouted by keyboard Nigel and his internet chums. I would suggest you grow up and refrain from saying anything if you can’t say anything nice. It’s boring now, really, it is.

Ta, GTiWILL.

BigDave3243

30 posts

97 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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Sport_220 said:
But most importantly of all lets pray it comes with silver alloys, black alloys look ste and are so last year!
Thanks for your insightful and balanced opinion.

Oh yeah, I forgot this is PH. Idiot comments are mandatory here.

Sport_220

233 posts

174 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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BigDave3243 said:
Thanks for your insightful and balanced opinion.

Oh yeah, I forgot this is PH. Idiot comments are mandatory here.
So people slag off the salesmen and dct's and you have an issue with a comment about the colour of wheels laugh

Black wheels kinda work on hatchbacks if it's something like a CTR or A45 but something with understated looks like the I30, black wheels look odd (obviously depending on body colour).

Thanks for your insightful and balanced opinion. smile

Court_S

12,937 posts

177 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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The addition of the DCT is probably a good move - whether people like it or nor, auto's are popular these days.

Hopefully the prices won't increase too much.

GoodCompany

306 posts

63 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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The standard ones sound stupid for the lack of power, so strapping a pair of ridiculous tubas to the back has pushed it even further into sad territory. A sheep in outdated wolf's clothing.

Limpet

6,310 posts

161 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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GoodCompany said:
The standard ones sound stupid for the lack of power, so strapping a pair of ridiculous tubas to the back has pushed it even further into sad territory. A sheep in outdated wolf's clothing.
I really like these cars, and I actually hope they don't mess with it too much. It works really well on the road, and on the track, and is stupidly good value for money. Adding the DCT is fine with me as long as it is an option. The manual 'box is one of the nicest to use that I've experienced for a while.

I've been looking at them half seriously over the past few months, and have been offered a brand new one in Performance Blue through Carwow for £24,542! When you consider how it drives, and what you get spec (and warranty) wise, that is ridiculous value for money. The one cost option, apart from colour, was the winter pack (heated seats and wheel) and they even throw that in as standard now. A refreshing approach compared with the Germans who hide all the good stuff in packs that force you to pay for three things you don't want in order to get the one thing you do.

It's still reviewing well too. There was a big 14 car hot hatch group test in Evo this month, where it placed 2nd, behind the CTR, but ahead of (among others) the A35, the Megane RS and Trophy, the Focus and Fiesta ST and the Golf GTI and R. A great all round package, very well developed, and somehow just incredibly likeable. Hampered mostly by the badge, and arguably a slight lack of straight line speed relative to the competition. It's certainly not going to win you any willy waving contests, but the chassis is a peach.



Edited by Limpet on Wednesday 16th October 10:03

beerexpressman

240 posts

137 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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These car bras are getting a bit OTT...

Oxyuris

15 posts

55 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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...and they will now follow Kia's market researched lead and make an I30N tourer too? Thought not.

Dale487

1,334 posts

123 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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Oxyuris said:
...and they will now follow Kia's market researched lead and make an I30N tourer too? Thought not.
Now you're talking!

Or A proceed with the i30N drive train (probably be a DCT not the manual I'd want).

I'll be happy if they keep the manual gearbox option.

df76

3,630 posts

278 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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Big Robbo said:
I just wish they would stop fannying about and sort out the i20 N
Agreed. Assume that this won't appear until the new i20 model is launched now. 2021??

Jon_S_Rally

3,406 posts

88 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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GoodCompany said:
The standard ones sound stupid for the lack of power, so strapping a pair of ridiculous tubas to the back has pushed it even further into sad territory. A sheep in outdated wolf's clothing.
What lack of power?

Court_S

12,937 posts

177 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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Limpet said:
I really like these cars, and I actually hope they don't mess with it too much. It works really well on the road, and on the track, and is stupidly good value for money. Adding the DCT is fine with me as long as it is an option. The manual 'box is one of the nicest to use that I've experienced for a while.

I've been looking at them half seriously over the past few months, and have been offered a brand new one in Performance Blue through Carwow for £24,542! When you consider how it drives, and what you get spec (and warranty) wise, that is ridiculous value for money. The one cost option, apart from colour, was the winter pack (heated seats and wheel) and they even throw that in as standard now. A refreshing approach compared with the Germans who hide all the good stuff in packs that force you to pay for three things you don't want in order to get the one thing you do.

It's still reviewing well too. There was a big 14 car hot hatch group test in Evo this month, where it placed 2nd, behind the CTR, but ahead of (among others) the A35, the Megane RS and Trophy, the Focus and Fiesta ST and the Golf GTI and R. A great all round package, very well developed, and somehow just incredibly likeable. Hampered mostly by the badge, and arguably a slight lack of straight line speed relative to the competition. It's certainly not going to win you any willy waving contests, but the chassis is a peach.



Edited by Limpet on Wednesday 16th October 10:03
I like them - when I looked the discounts weren't great which actually made them quite expensive compared to other cars. Agree that it's nice that the spec is pretty much the spec.