RE: Jaguar XFR-S Sportbrake | Spotted

RE: Jaguar XFR-S Sportbrake | Spotted

Sunday 20th October 2019

Jaguar XFR-S Sportbrake | Spotted

The new T-Roc R is a fast, roomy car for today; here's an example of the old school answer



It took all of about five minutes for a PHer to question the relevance of the new T-Roc R when the Golf R estate already exists. Same powertrain, near identical performance and closely aligned claims for practicality, simonbamg’s point is a valid one. But there’s also no questioning which car will be more desirable to the mainstream; the T-Roc is by far the more attention-grabbingly fashionable offering. 

If it’s that combination of practicality and head-turning ability that you seek, why restrict your search to crossovers, though? There exist many more options at this price point capable of garnering attention as you roll down the high street with the family and dog aboard. Granted, the properly flash stuff from AMG and BMW costs a lot more, but on the used market you can get a big-booted estate with bags of character and even an injection of the exotic for under £40k, no problem. A longstanding favourite of ours is the Jaguar XFR-S Sportbrake, a car which turns head in the very best way: with a burbling V8 soundtrack.


This is a supercharged 5.0-litre model, which has a frankly enormous 1,675-litre boot (with the seats down) that shames the T-Roc by a big margin and beats the Golf R estate by 55 litres. And it has 550hp. That’s passed exclusively to the rear wheels, too, making for a hairy chested brute that’s more than capable of burning off a few millimetres of rubber in seconds or getting properly sideways through the bends. We really like the T-Roc R and its 300hp EA888 ilk, but the Jag’s got them pipped on that front a million times over.

There is, of course, the slight issue of fuel economy. The Jag’s official 22.2mpg combined comes from the NEDC days, so you can knock 10 per cent off that and probably another 10 per cent for good measure to get to the real-world figure. An XFR-S Sportbrake will burn a hole in your wallet with its thirst for hydrocarbons, but did we mention that is has a supercharged V8? It has 502lb ft of torque from just 2,500rpm, you know, and peak power comes from 6,400rpm so there’s lots of fun to be had here.


The chassis is great as well, with the body control and clever damping of a sweetly sorted modern Jag coupled to those never-boring steer-it-with-the-throttle traits provided by the motor. And as a car that cost from £82.5k new, even a few years of age can’t hamper the XFR-S’s feeling of luxuriousness. The cabin has a small infotainment screen, but there are lovely leather seats with R-S etched into them and every time you drive past a shop window you’ll see yourself in a Jaguar XFR-S Sportbrake. Which will never stop being brilliant.

There’s one for sale here for a tenner under £36k, with only 26,000 miles on the clock and a visibly healthy interior and exterior. It comes well-specced with a list of options too long to mention here, but in short, you’re looking at a rather fine example of a practical (space wise), head-turning estate and – now that the next XF is destined to become an EV – an extinct species. 


SPECIFICATION - JAGUAR XFR-S SPORTBRAKE

Engine: 5,000cc, supercharged V8
Transmission: 8-speed automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 550@6,400rpm
Torque (lb ft): 502@2,500-5,500rpm
MPG: 22.2
CO2: 297g/km
First registered: 2015
Recorded mileage: 26,000
Price new: £82,495
Yours for: £35,990

See the original advert here.

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TdM-GTV

Original Poster:

290 posts

217 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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I have an SV8 which will have slightly worse fuel economy. Fuel economy IS bad but you'll find it not too far from official figures on a combined run. On the motorway it's actually quite decent, around town it's appalling. It's actually not so bad when fast road driving either, definitely more efficient than town driving.

If you hit a traffic jam on your way home expect to see somewhere in the region of 6-10mpg.

It's reliable. Can be expensive to fix when something does go wrong though. Very very nice car to drive and be in and wonderful for long distances.

fatboy b

9,493 posts

216 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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TdM-GTV said:
I have an SV8 which will have slightly worse fuel economy. Fuel economy IS bad but you'll find it not too far from official figures on a combined run. On the motorway it's actually quite decent, around town it's appalling. It's actually not so bad when fast road driving either, definitely more efficient than town driving.

If you hit a traffic jam on your way home expect to see somewhere in the region of 6-10mpg.

It's reliable. Can be expensive to fix when something does go wrong though. Very very nice car to drive and be in and wonderful for long distances.
The only expensive bit is under the bonnet. The rest is pretty reasonable to sort.

Chain tensioners are becoming a bit too common, and I also had a tappet go bad that wore a valve-guide, which is non-serviceable. So a £5.88 part ended up being an £11k repair under warranty. Still epic cars though, and last of the big-engined Jag saloons and estates that we’ll we’ll see.

Big GT

1,812 posts

92 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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For a long time Jag have lead the way in performance saloons because what I love about these as well as the wonderful chassis, the ride never suffers and the interior is a great place to be.

Added bonus of the estate and the thunderous V8.

Downside is traction especially in the wet.



fatboy b

9,493 posts

216 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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Big GT said:
For a long time Jag have lead the way in performance saloons because what I love about these as well as the wonderful chassis, the ride never suffers and the interior is a great place to be.

Added bonus of the estate and the thunderous V8.

Downside is traction especially in the wet.
Yeah traction is an issue in the wet hehe especially now it’s cooling down.

ali_XF

385 posts

171 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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Echo the comment about chains/ tensioners. I had an XFR for 3 years. Chain snapped/slipped half way through its time with me and it lead to a £17k bill for a replacement engine- thankfully the warranty covered it.

The RS, especially in estate form is a handsome beast. If all you need is a great thundering V8, and load lugging ability it’s a cracking option. Set of winter tyres on a spare set of alloys and you can even use it year round. Just don’t expect it to compete when it comes to in car tech. But then again who needs top of the range infotainment when you have a supercharged V8?!

A1VDY

3,575 posts

127 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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It might be quick but £82k for Mondeo looks??

gt6

1,424 posts

185 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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Looks good, sounds good, goes good. The perfect family car, But if you do not have a family start one soon and they will be even cheaper by the time you need it.

fatboy b

9,493 posts

216 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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A1VDY said:
It might be quick but £82k for Mondeo looks??
Pretty sure it’s £36k, and it doesn’t have Mondeo looks. That was a joke peddled some ten years ago. HTH

Arsecati

2,310 posts

117 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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Hell yeah!!!!

Reciprocating mass

6,030 posts

241 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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gets my vote thumbup

Brian_the_Snail

96 posts

254 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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I thought that the tensioner issues was fixed from late 2012 onwards for this engine. My Range Rover Sport 5 litre supercharged has this engine and the problem was claimed as solved from MY2013 due to a redesigned tensioner.

fatboy b

9,493 posts

216 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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Brian_the_Snail said:
I thought that the tensioner issues was fixed from late 2012 onwards for this engine. My Range Rover Sport 5 litre supercharged has this engine and the problem was claimed as solved from MY2013 due to a redesigned tensioner.
Mine’s 2015, and has had all three done.

Initforthemoney

743 posts

144 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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T-roc vs estate car.

Excellent comparison.

ducnick

1,784 posts

243 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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Is the 5litre jag block a modular ford coyote by any chance? I seem to remember ford owned jlr during this period. If so then I see no reason why it would cost the earth to maintain and even to improve / add big power...

Turkish91

1,087 posts

202 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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Awesome and scarcely seen estate, I’m sure they didn’t make very many? So much cooler than the saloons too... I hope to own one some day!

forzaminardi

2,290 posts

187 months

Monday 21st October 2019
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What I don't understand is why they made a XF-RS estate but not a XF-R estate?

SweptVolume

1,091 posts

93 months

Monday 21st October 2019
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ducnick said:
Is the 5litre jag block a modular ford coyote by any chance? I seem to remember ford owned jlr during this period. If so then I see no reason why it would cost the earth to maintain and even to improve / add big power...
Don't believe so. I believe the AJV8 was designed from the ground-up by Jaguar. They had very specific requirements in the original 4.0 variant, namely to be as refined as the outgoing i6 and V12, and more powerful than both.

Lots of info here: https://www.aronline.co.uk/engines/engines-jaguar-...

The 5.0 was another big redesign, but using the 4.2 AJV8 as a base.

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

230 months

Monday 21st October 2019
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Great Spotted, but you've failed to mention quite how rare the XF-RS Sportbrake is - I don't think I've ever seen more than 5 for sale at one time and it's usually only one or two. I'm guessing they didn't sell many, but also that those who own them, love them.

I had Jag's presser for a week when they were new and absolutely fell in love with it. Sure it has fitfalls and issues, but it has something seriously lacking in any car with that EA888 engine - character. (and i say that as a Leon Cupra owner).

Zumbruk

7,848 posts

260 months

Monday 21st October 2019
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I have an XF-R and would have loved one of these, but they're like rocking horse poo. When I was looking, the only one for sale was a 500 mile round trip to go and look at. TBH, the XF-R really doesn't need any more power, but the estate car configuration would fix my single biggest complaint about the XF - access to the boot, which is miserable, and not having a rear wash/wipe. Hopefully, they've also fixed the pitifully small fuel tank, which I assume was sized for all the 2.0d's out there.

Luke.

10,995 posts

250 months

Monday 21st October 2019
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Lovely things. But would you take one over a C63S or E63S?