RE: Skoda Octavia 4x4 | Spotted

RE: Skoda Octavia 4x4 | Spotted

Sunday 10th November 2019

Skoda Octavia 4x4 | Spotted

250hp in an Octavia estate? Perfect winter wagon, surely...



In the two decades of vRS Skodas the UK has now enjoyed, it would be fair to say there’s never been a truly exceptional one. All have been decent, worthy, accomplished fast cars, offering a power-and-practicality-to-pound ratio seldom beaten, but precious few - if any - have ever topped wish lists.

Perhaps that’s not the point of a fast Skoda, but on seeing this Octavia 4x4 it’s hard not to think that this was what the original vRS should have been. Only it’s been made, not by a marque specialist, but by one dedicated enthusiast.

Any advert for an 18-year-old car that’s listed for just a few thousand pounds yet features 1,200 words of description already has the attention. That it’s for a Skoda Octavia estate only increases that - clearly somebody cares about it very much.


This is not just any old Octavia, though. Using a combination of three cars - the Cayenne Orange Octavia 4x4 shell, an MoT fail Octavia vRS and a similarly classified Audi TT - the seller has created what they’ve described as “my interpretation of the ultimate roadgoing, daily drive Mk1 Octavia estate”. Looking at the spec and the end result, it’s a statement that’s very hard to argue. It may well sell the car short.

Where the original vRS estate was 180hp and front-wheel drive, this Octavia - thanks to the 4x4 running gear and lightly tweaked BAM 1.8 from the TT - is now sending 250hp to all four wheels. Given how much lighter this car would be than a modern equivalent (the Octavia first emerging more than 20 years ago, don’t forget), that should be more than enough to be getting along with. The six-speed gearbox, clutch and flywheel have all been carried over the from the TT, too.

But this Octavia is so much more than a 4x4 with a bit more power - it’s a full overhaul. The Skoda now has a Blue Haldex controller to better manage power distribution, a TT steering ratio, Golf 4Motion springs, dampers and bars, Leon Cupra R brake calipers grabbing bigger discs, Audi S3 wheels and matching Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S tyres. None of those vehicles are remembered as truly great driver’s cars, but the mods will surely sharpen things up a great deal.

The attention-to-detail goes way further than under the skin. That aforementioned vRS had its body parts harvested, resprayed and grafted on to the 4x4 for an authentic look - the steering wheel and headlining have gone in, too. It has heated Recaro leather seats from a Mk4 Golf, the smart aluminium pedals from a TT, retrofitted cruise control and an upgraded stereo system that is DAB and Bluetooth compatible. It’s perhaps the most PH amalgamation of parts that could be cobbled together from this era of VW, and a really intriguing project as a result. As the seller says: “It’s a little bit lairy, it whooshes and hisses and bangs and farts and is a real laugh to drive.” To have that in something as sombre as a Skoda, with a ton of supporting chassis hardware and service history, sounds like something approaching the ideal cheap, fast estate.


Of course, it’s not perfect. The car is approaching 130,000 miles and showing some signs of wear, though that’s surely to be expected. There’s a small problem with one of the headlights. And that’s about it. Some will whinge that it’s not factory standard, a Frankenstein mismatch of bits and bobs that might make it tricky to maintain, but nothing here is pinched from a truly exotic car. And nobody is going to mourn the demise of an MoT failure TT or Octavia. Particularly not when this is the end result.

And it’s £4k. This much effort, expense and commitment can be yours for not much money at all. An offer in the ad to take away the Blue Haldex controller and brakes means it could cost the next owner £3k. In the grand scheme of car buying, that’s an inconsequential sum of money - isn’t it?

With winter closing in rapidly, and the promise here of punchy four-wheel drive performance and Skoda practicality with a wealth of history behind it, the 4x4 vRS looks a canny buy. If the budget can be released for a new PH Sunday Service wagon, perhaps we can find out exactly how canny…


SPECIFICATION - SKODA OCTAVIA VRS
Engine: 
1,781cc, turbocharged four-cyl
Transmission: 5-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 180@5,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 173@1,950-5,000rpm
MPG: 35
CO2: 192g/km 
First registered: 2001
Recorded mileage: 130,000
Price new: £17,995
Yours for: £3,000 (see advert)

(Spec for standard Octavia vRS)

See the original advert here.

Search for a Skoda Octavia vRS here

 

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2smoke

Original Poster:

216 posts

111 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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Looks and sounds great. Any advice on insuring such a modified car?

Arsecati

2,309 posts

117 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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I thought this was an interesting prospect at first, before seeing you can get a myriad of younger, similar powered Audi A4 & A6 Avant Quattro's with lower mileage for half the price.

Plate spinner

17,698 posts

200 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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Arsecati said:
I thought this was an interesting prospect at first, before seeing you can get a myriad of younger, similar powered Audi A4 & A6 Avant Quattro's with lower mileage for half the price.
Yeah I agree. I feel that modified cars are great yet very personal creations.

It’s a bugger to maintain / repair someone else’s home-brew project. Worth the agro for something special like a Caterham / TVR / Defender, but not an ageing daily hack.

Much respect for the work done, but not for me I’m afraid.

Arsecati

2,309 posts

117 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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Plate spinner said:
Yeah I agree. I feel that modified cars are great yet very personal creations.

It’s a bugger to maintain / repair someone else’s home-brew project. Worth the agro for something special like a Caterham / TVR / Defender, but not an ageing daily hack.

Much respect for the work done, but not for me I’m afraid.
100% bang on.

Etypephil

724 posts

78 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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2smoke said:
Looks and sounds great. Any advice on insuring such a modified car?
Just be an old git. cool

Augustus Windsock

3,368 posts

155 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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Seller offers to take away the brakes and the car will be £3k
New owner drives away with no brakes and the car is, moments later, £300 of scrap

Seriously though, I’d want all of the brakes and suspension that have been upgraded to remain.
And at least the builder of the car hasn’t stuck the useless cream carpets in from a vRS

I’ve been in a very similar car, a 4x4 estate that was track prepped and stripped inside
It too had a blue Haldex controller although it was circa 350bhp iirc and went like a train (I seem to recall the car or at least the engine had been built by JB AutiDesigns in Chesterfield
Sadly and for reasons unknown to me the car was broken, the engine and gearbox sold off separately to other bits
The only thing this car is missing for me is a 1.9tdi badge on the tailgate to confuzzle others....

A1VDY

3,575 posts

127 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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Arsecati said:
I thought this was an interesting prospect at first, before seeing you can get a myriad of younger, similar powered Audi A4 & A6 Avant Quattro's with lower mileage for half the price.
This.
Good work by the owner but plenty of factory cars out there at half the price and with a simple remap of the 1.8 20v engine would match it.
Unless of course its a Q car you're after..



XRMike

213 posts

126 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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A real credit to the owner for creating such a cracking motor. I love stuff like this. The VAG owners don't realise how easy they have it with the parts that can interchange between various models.

Well executed and most defo something I would own.

A build sheet would be ideal for the new owner with a list of parts and where they originated from for ease of future maintenance.

Veeayt

3,139 posts

205 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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This car is quite simply beautiful

Augustus Windsock

3,368 posts

155 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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A1VDY said:
Arsecati said:
I thought this was an interesting prospect at first, before seeing you can get a myriad of younger, similar powered Audi A4 & A6 Avant Quattro's with lower mileage for half the price.
This.
Good work by the owner but plenty of factory cars out there at half the price and with a simple remap of the 1.8 20v engine would match it.
Unless of course its a Q car you're after..
The difference being in the engine of a 4x4 or vRS and a TT225. Providing the build had included the twin inter coolers or a larger one etc etc it’s a better / easier base line to build bigger power

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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So 4k. I would rather an S3.

4x4skoda

7 posts

103 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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Nearly Deja vu. Had a 51plate saloon in cayenne, over the 16 yrs and 114k miles I owned it, it gained milltek exhaust, ap coilovers + bushes etc, bigger TT brakes, remapping to 237 with super unleaded and suitable other mods for reliability. Still get weird twinge when I see it around.

donkmeister

8,164 posts

100 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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Hmmm... Original monocoque, 5 pts.
Suspension, steering, axles, engine, transmission all transplants, 0 pts. Doesn't meet the 8 point criterion.

I love the concept, but how does he get away without a Q-plate?

ETA I see the axles are original, but that's still 7 points total.

Edited by donkmeister on Sunday 10th November 13:48

Turkish91

1,087 posts

202 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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Augustus Windsock said:
Seller offers to take away the brakes and the car will be £3k
New owner drives away with no brakes and the car is, moments later, £300 of scrap....
If you read it fully it says for £3k it will come on some rebuilt OEM VRS 312mm brakes, instead of the LCR Brembos.

Turkish91

1,087 posts

202 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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donkmeister said:
Hmmm... Original monocoque, 5 pts.
Suspension, steering, axles, engine, transmission all transplants, 0 pts. Doesn't meet the 8 point criterion.

I love the concept, but how does he get away without a Q-plate?

ETA I see the axles are original, but that's still 7 points total.

Edited by donkmeister on Sunday 10th November 13:48
Please elaborate? News to me that a modified “production” car would have to be a Q plate?

MC Bodge

21,628 posts

175 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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Good car.

I had a 52 reg vRS (180bhp engine) with an APR? remap from Awesome (and some improvements to the intercooler airflow). It was quite quick at the time.

Handling wasn't great, ride was crashy, and it had a very slow steering rack for some reason.

Good fun, though.

Augustus Windsock

3,368 posts

155 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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donkmeister said:
Hmmm... Original monocoque, 5 pts.
Suspension, steering, axles, engine, transmission all transplants, 0 pts. Doesn't meet the 8 point criterion.

I love the concept, but how does he get away without a Q-plate?

ETA I see the axles are original, but that's still 7 points total.

Edited by donkmeister on Sunday 10th November 13:48
Just a guess but I’m thinking he ‘forgot’ to inform the Dvla
Used to see loads of ads some years ago that read something like ‘Sierra Cosworth engine and running gear but still says Sierra 3dr 1.6L on the log book...

Arsecati

2,309 posts

117 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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Augustus Windsock said:
The difference being in the engine of a 4x4 or vRS and a TT225. Providing the build had included the twin inter coolers or a larger one etc etc it’s a better / easier base line to build bigger power
I was thinking more along the lines of a 3.0TDi. Mine is mapped to about 280bhp and 440ft/lb's torque and has been up to a GPS timed speed of 154mph with a bit more to go (and mines an A6 tank instead of a lighter A4!). Cost me a fair bit of money 10 years ago when I bought it, and due to the fact I now have about 206,000 miles on the clock, is barely worth a pack of Planters - but has never let me down, still looks like a car with a third of the miles, and still allows me to carry or tow all my crap, while allowing the dogs plenty of fresh air in their gobs when they stick their heads out the window! I have other vehicles for kicks - but can't see myself getting rid of this for years yet. wink

aka_kerrly

12,418 posts

210 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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Turkish91 said:
donkmeister said:
Hmmm... Original monocoque, 5 pts.
Suspension, steering, axles, engine, transmission all transplants, 0 pts. Doesn't meet the 8 point criterion.

I love the concept, but how does he get away without a Q-plate?

ETA I see the axles are original, but that's still 7 points total.

Edited by donkmeister on Sunday 10th November 13:48
Please elaborate? News to me that a modified “production” car would have to be a Q plate?
If you follow the dvla rules to the letter then yes you should notify them and ask for guidance prior to arranging an iva. However in the real world, my view is if it's insured appropriately, passes an MOT then it's arguably better built that the majority of skoda Octavias with 20 year old original shocks, springs, steering an so on..

helix402

7,859 posts

182 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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The car looks great though Skoda wheels would be more subtle.