RE: Tuned LS7 V8 surpasses 11,000rpm | Time for Tea

RE: Tuned LS7 V8 surpasses 11,000rpm | Time for Tea

Thursday 28th November 2019

Tuned LS7 V8 surpasses 11,000rpm | Time for Tea

After three years, this EFI Uni engineer has finally made a small block that revs to the moon without breaking up



In an automotive world dominated by turbos and torque, it’s great to see that enthusiasts’ hunger for naturally aspirated revs remains unabated. Both Porsche and Ferrari have production engines capable of revving to 9,000rpm to feed the undying appetite, while Cosworth’s Valkyrie V12 will have its limiter set at an astonishing 11,100rpm to hammer home the point. These fantastic creations are the work of automotive engineering giants, though, which makes this LS7 V8 re-engineered to rev beyond 11,000rpm by one man all the more impressive.

Ben Strader, founder of EFI University in Arizona, chose to use Chevrolet’s crate motor – which is famed more for its toughness and low-down grunt than stratospheric spins of the crank – for an obsessive rev-hunting project. In 2016, when he first set out to build an LS7 capable of withstanding the aforementioned revolutions, the task seemed near impossible thanks to the V8’s tendency to shake its valvetrain into oblivion once the standard 7,000rpm redline had been surpassed.

But in the third year, Ben joined up with Comp Cams (yep, a competition camshaft supplier) and began making significant ground with the small-block unit, edging towards that target – although not without a few failures on the way. In the video below he demonstrates for the first time what the finished product is capable of. Ben’s obsession for revs is made all the madder by his admission that the LS7 block, even in its revviest state of tune, produces a peak of 921hp at 9,300rpm, so the revs it now reaches (just over 11k!) are little more than a statement of toughness. The story itself is worthy of your attention, though – and the motor doesn’t half sound great at full pelt. We recommend the use of headphones…

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V8 FOU

Original Poster:

2,974 posts

147 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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Holy crap!!!

What a sound. Best thing I have seen in a very long time.

Thank you!

AmosMoses

4,042 posts

165 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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Awesome!

350Matt

3,738 posts

279 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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thats a great noise

Marvib

528 posts

146 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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Project Spinal Tap...nice

jet_noise

5,648 posts

182 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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Headline picture is not NA.
A considerable achievement in the YT vid though smile

In case of woosh parrot please apply here:

Scrump

22,004 posts

158 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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Link requires me to allow permission for Facebook to track my browsing before I can watch the video.

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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Scrump said:
Link requires me to allow permission for Facebook to track my browsing before I can watch the video.
YT channel here, but they haven't got the full viddy up yet: https://www.youtube.com/user/EFIUniversity1

FWIW I use Firefox with a facebook container plugin, so it can't track me outside that tab. smile

annodomini2

6,861 posts

251 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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Making an engine rev to those kinds of RPMs isn't the issue, it's still producing useful torque at those kinds of RPMs.

BogBeast

1,136 posts

263 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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Epic. Especially if it can hold 11k,,,

Would sound wonderful in my Ultima.

AdeTuono

7,254 posts

227 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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annodomini2 said:
Making an engine rev to those kinds of RPMs isn't the issue, it's still producing useful torque at those kinds of RPMs.

Yeah, what a complete waste of time. rolleyes

Won't be long before someone criticises the LS7 as a dinosaur for being a 2v, single cam pushrod engine.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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annodomini2 said:
Making an engine rev to those kinds of RPMs isn't the issue, it's still producing useful torque at those kinds of RPMs.
It depends a large amount on the valve train design. Cam-in-block engines do tend to struggle above 9k rpm. Stud mounted rockers often get swapped out for a shaft mounted system, and push rod design ends up leaning toward what we use in fuel engines. Anything to stop the tips getting mullered, and the push rod itself soon becomes anything but straight.

Sandpit Steve

10,040 posts

74 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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Marvib said:
Project Spinal Tap...nice
Turn it up to 11 (thousand), baby! biggrin

MParallel

82 posts

54 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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So what is exactly the deal? I mean, very cool for sure, but we've had F1 engines rev to 20k.

It's more of how long before a complete rebuilt is necessary?

AdeTuono

7,254 posts

227 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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MParallel said:
So what is exactly the deal? I mean, very cool for sure, but we've had F1 engines rev to 20k.

It's more of how long before a complete rebuilt is necessary?
F1 engines aren't generally single cam OHV's.

SturdyHSV

10,095 posts

167 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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AdeTuono said:
MParallel said:
So what is exactly the deal? I mean, very cool for sure, but we've had F1 engines rev to 20k.

It's more of how long before a complete rebuilt is necessary?
F1 engines aren't generally single cam OHV's.
Or 7 litres in capacity smile (haven't watched the video yet (no headphones) I'm just assuming it hasn't been de-stroked))

Escy

3,931 posts

149 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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I've listened to Ben Strader on the Power and Speed podcast talking about this project. That podcast is worth a listen if you are interested in technical aspects of tuning, good guests and they ask the right questions. When looking for the link, I noticed Ben Strader has his own podcast which I'll check out.

https://readingtondigital.libsyn.com/145-power-and...

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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MParallel said:
So what is exactly the deal? I mean, very cool for sure, but we've had F1 engines rev to 20k.

It's more of how long before a complete rebuilt is necessary?
The F1 engines that would rev as high as 20k rpm, used pneumatic valvetrains to do so. It's a struggle to get an engine to rev high with push rods. There's simply a large amount of moving parts that see large point loads, and have a tendency to stretch, bend and break when pushed beyond 8000-9000rpm. In addition, the rotating assembly weight of an LS7 is probably near the total weight of an F1 engine, so that gives an idea of the forces involved when trying to turn a heavy mass above the OEM expected limit.

Admittedly, for many years, Pro Stock has used a 10,500rpm limiter for the 500cid engines in that class, but they have full factory backing and large engine builder support; the man-in-a-shed engineering project rarely gets near that - mainly due to money (Pro Stock, at one point, was more expensive to run than Top Fuel, because of the dyno programme the teams had going to eek out every last rpm, and every last bit of power - similar to how F1 teams used to build bigger and bigger wind tunnels for aero development, and the richest guys tended perform better).

These things will rev beyond 11,000rpm, if you can afford it. Some will argue that it's pointless to make an old dog learn a new trick, but for some, that's the challenge.

MParallel

82 posts

54 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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Pneumatic valvetrains to close the valves. They still used cams to open them. But that on a sidenote.

It's cool people do these types of projects.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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I’d like to know precisely what it is about this noise that people like so much. I’m not interested in the implications of the sound, but the sound itself.

shinjuku

476 posts

81 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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Simonium said:
I’d like to know precisely what it is about this noise that people like so much. I’m not interested in the implications of the sound, but the sound itself.
I think it's the multitude of resonances. like multiple notes in a chord, harmonics. A choir, a symphony.

A lot of motorbikes also sound great (not all). Mine's a little interesting as 3 cylinder.