TVR Sagaris | Spotted

Sunday 22nd December 2019

TVR Sagaris | Spotted

It's been 15 years since the Sagaris' introduction. Still nothing has matched its impact



On the brink of a new year and a new decade, it's inevitable that we gaze back wistfully over the preceding years for significant events and anniversaries. And, well, this is PistonHeads, so there seemed no better occasion to celebrate than a TVR birthday.

It was at the Birmingham Motor Show - remember those? - back in 2004 that the Sagaris first made its debut, sending the automotive world into a delirious frenzy with its wild styling and performance claims. It entered production the following year, as you'll probably know, which means that 2020 marks 15 years since the Sagaris first hit the road. Fifteen!


Time has done nothing to diminish the Sagaris. If anything, its presence is now even greater, as TVR then disappeared from the automotive world and regular sports cars - i.e. those at less than six-figure sums - have become tamer and more sensible. Even with TVR returning to the arena, the Griffith - whenever it might arrive - is surely a less dramatic sports car, all these years later. For sheer attention-grabbing theatre, there's still not much to match a Sagaris a decade and a half on.

The recipe was familiar TVR, with a rampant straight six providing power to the rear wheels - and very little beyond a throttle pedal and steering wheel between them. Even in a time of less safety obsessed cars the TVR was pretty intense, so to drivers spoilt by modern machinery it may feel like juggling grenades on a skateboard.

Only the Sagaris was a bit different. Less lethal than previous TVRs, far more sorted and thus much more enjoyable, it arguably realised the genius of the TVR idea better than any other model, which made it such a shame that production was so short lived. Of course, the Sag still demanded considerable respect, and it was very far from perfect, but this was a TVR that felt the most like a sports car - rather than simply a UK muscle car - than any other before it.


That reputation, the incredible styling and the cruelly curtailed production run have ensured the Sagaris has remained in demand ever since its demise in 2006. This particular car is a later one, fantastically menacing in black and with 11 service stamps to support its meagre 24,000 recorded mileage. With a new clutch and set of tyres, it's surely ready to enjoy to the full in its anniversary year. Only maybe not in January or February. Perhaps March, too. And hope April isn't too wet...

At £70,000, today's Spotted is neither the most nor the least you'll pay for a Sagaris in 2019; while still the most expensive of the TVRs, it's surely also one of the very best and one of the most significant, signing off as it did that era of Blackpool bruisers. While the Griffith will likely be the car people look to when its reimagined namesake arrives, the Sagaris will be worthy of attention as well, because it's the act to follow. If the next TVR is a car as thrilling, exciting and demanding of attention as the Sagaris was, both for those inside the cabin and out of it, the new era will be off to the best start possible. Let's hope 2020 brings more of the news we want to hear about it...


SPECIFICATION - TVR SAGARIS
Engine:
3,996cc, straight-six
Transmission: 6-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 412@7,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 349@5,000rpm
MPG: Next...
CO2: 406g/km
First registered: 2006
Recorded mileage: 24,000
Price new: £49,995
Yours for: £69,995

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sidesauce

Original Poster:

2,490 posts

219 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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For the most part, I like the styling of this car but the perspex spoiler always looked like a cheap aftermarket add-on to me.

Mike 83

50 posts

61 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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I remember when these came out I wanted one so badly still do. in 2006 my 3 favourite British cars where the tvr sagaris the marcos tso gt2 and Aston Martin db9

coppice

8,639 posts

145 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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I have never owned a TVR, nor wanted to , but I've loved them since seeing Tony Bancroft's (aka Spotty Smith ) quad Webered Tuscan V8 hillclimbing in the 70s. The most recent Griffiths now look surprisingly understated but the Sagaris still looks sensational - as does the now near forgotten Tamora

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

262 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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If only Newco TVR had said they were going to build these again.

That doesn't look remotely like a 15 year old design.

DeejRC

5,825 posts

83 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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Ah the Sag. Specced every single detail of mine, every panel of leather, carpet, piping, gearbox, paint, seats, etc...

Dynamics wise - different league to my Griff.

And yet...and yet...I always feel I never quite gelled with her like I did the Griff.

650spider

1,476 posts

172 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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I don't do 'regrets', but not having the minerals to buy TVRs back in the day comes close....the potential reliability issues, occasional bits falling off and the scarce dealer network just out balanced the stunning looks, colours, sounds and the 'nothing can touch the speed' aspects...

Ended up going the Porsche, Ferrari and AMG route like a sheep.

Whizz forward and i decided i will not miss out ever again due to the peanut brain trying to be sensible...am loving the McLaren life now...all the similarities are right there on the check list!

Would love to get a Sag also though as time is running out for these kind of cars...driving

alpha channel

1,387 posts

163 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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Always loved these and I would if I could (even though I've vowed to never buy a black car again), though for me the Sagaris really needs a more outlandish paint job to compliment the design... I wouldn't say no to a T350 either... or a Chim... well any TVR really. One of only two makes that I could voluntarily chop the XK in for.

Equus

16,980 posts

102 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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sidesauce said:
For the most part, I like the styling of this car but the perspex spoiler always looked like a cheap aftermarket add-on to me.
...and then there's the 'gills' on top of the front wheelarches, that really aren't. vomit

fausTVR

1,442 posts

151 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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Most expensive of the TVRs ...except some of the classics and the Typhon.

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

262 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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Equus said:
sidesauce said:
For the most part, I like the styling of this car but the perspex spoiler always looked like a cheap aftermarket add-on to me.
...and then there's the 'gills' on top of the front wheelarches, that really aren't. vomit
The plan was to have them open, but they discovered that it's a good way of pebble dashing your paintwork and windscreen. Being TVR, they patched the mould 'shut' rather than make a new mould. Not cheap minded at all, right?

m3jappa

6,442 posts

219 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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Tyre Smoke said:
If only Newco TVR had said they were going to build these again.

That doesn't look remotely like a 15 year old design.
I think the sagaris and tuscan are the two best tvr designs ever, both still look modern in a retro way, the tuscan has a very classic shape and the sag just looks from the future but still that classic shape.

Some very minor alterations would mean that if these cars were released for the first time today people would still be wowed!

Augustus Windsock

3,374 posts

156 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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I’m one of the ‘wish I’d owned one’ group.
I’d owned a 5.0 Chimera and despite derision from my work colleagues (until I took them for a ride in it) concerning reliability and build quality, I never had an issue with the car in either department.
However, I’ve looked round a couple of Sagarii and despite them being absolutely outlandish, the build quality didn’t seem up to snuff. Of course they may well not have been representative of them as a whole but it put me off, which is perverse as I’d love one if it was ‘right’
As an aside, I’m sure at least one owner cut open the grills on the tips of the wings and fitted mesh of some sort to prevent stones being fired out like shells from an 88mm flak gun

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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Tyre Smoke said:
The plan was to have them open, but they discovered that it's a good way of pebble dashing your paintwork and windscreen. Being TVR, they patched the mould 'shut' rather than make a new mould. Not cheap minded at all, right?
Missing the point somewhat, what’s next, no parking sensors?

Fabulous cars.

Equus

16,980 posts

102 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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Tyre Smoke said:
Being TVR, they patched the mould 'shut' rather than make a new mould. Not cheap minded at all, right?
Wouldn't have been so bad if they'd filled them altogether.

Fake vents is just so... well... fake.

chunder

735 posts

247 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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Tyre Smoke said:
Equus said:
sidesauce said:
For the most part, I like the styling of this car but the perspex spoiler always looked like a cheap aftermarket add-on to me.
...and then there's the 'gills' on top of the front wheelarches, that really aren't. vomit
The plan was to have them open, but they discovered that it's a good way of pebble dashing your paintwork and windscreen. Being TVR, they patched the mould 'shut' rather than make a new mould. Not cheap minded at all, right?
Wouldn't it have been better to put some wire mesh across the bottom to stop the stone issue ?

rigga

8,732 posts

202 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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Love my Griff, and very unlikely to ever sell it, but I would so like a Sag or a T350, look fabulous, the new proposed Griffith has had some adverse comments regarding its stying, I personally think the Sagaris knocks it for six, and would be received well if it was released now.

dinkel

26,966 posts

259 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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In 2006 I joined the owner of this 1st LHD car:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Shame my Photobucket hamsters have a day off today...

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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Equus said:
Wouldn't have been so bad if they'd filled them altogether.

Fake vents is just so... well... fake.
Why, would you have bought one, I mean isn’t this the same chap who couldn’t handle a Griff and routinely slates everything TVR rofl

The reason the vents were filled was mainly due to water ingress.

Biggriff

2,312 posts

285 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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Having had five TVRs including a Sagaris it still remains one of the biggest disappointments. It never inspired me to just drive it, take the long way home or wring it’s neck through the twisties.

Don’t get me wrong it looked mental but for me it never delivered.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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Biggriff said:
Having had five TVRs including a Sagaris it still remains one of the biggest disappointments. It never inspired me to just drive it, take the long way home or wring it’s neck through the twisties.

Don’t get me wrong it looked mental but for me it never delivered.
Interesting. What was your favourite?