Re : Pricier Volkswagen Up GTI back on sale in UK

Re : Pricier Volkswagen Up GTI back on sale in UK

Thursday 9th January 2020

Pricier Volkswagen Up GTI back on sale in UK

The best fast city car has been reintroduced for 2020, alongside a new R-Line model



You might recall that when Volkswagen's 115hp Up GTI went on sale last year, demand for right-hand-drive models was much higher than expected. So much higher in fact that the manufacturer had to temporarily close the UK order books just six months in. 1,451 GTIs were ordered in those early months, meaning the model represented 17 per cent of all Up sales for the whole year. Resounding affirmation of VW's decision to badge the car as a GTI (word is that not everyone was onboard with the idea), but bad news for anyone wanting a downsized hot hatch in time for Christmas.

Consequently, today's announcement that sales have now re-opened ought to go down well; as will VW's assurances that it has maximised the possible supply of right-hand drive Up GTIs. The returning sub 1.1-tonne car remains available in three and five door forms, with 115hp and 148lb ft of torque from its turbocharged three-pot sufficient to hit 62mph in 8.8 seconds and a top speed of 122mph. The one difference for 2020 that might hurt those who weren't able to snap up a GTI last year is a lift in price, with the new starting figure now £15,895 - £2k more than before.


The near 15 per cent hike in price obviously incorporates a larger step-up than inflation alone can account for (its popularity has clearly left an impression on Volkswagen) although it's worth pointing out that it's still comfortably cheaper than something like a Ford Fiesta ST-Line, which is three grand more in 100hp format. A Suzuki Swift Sport is still £18k. The latter has the overall performance advantage, but evidently there's more demand for tiny, well-specced, German-made city cars than lightweight hot hatches from Japan.

Indeed, VW has bolstered the availability of exactly that sort of Up variant with the addition of a new R-Line trim, which talks the talk with 17-inch wheels - the same diameter as the GTI's - black exterior details and bumpers specific to the trim. The Up R-Line even gets lowered suspension and a higher specification cabin, so you'd imagine that some buyers who would have otherwise gone for the GTI might be tempted. If they're not concerned about GTI bragging rights, the R-Line saves a healthy sum, starting at £14,280.


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Augustus Windsock

Original Poster:

3,369 posts

155 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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15% price hike?
Is that so that, if Brexit goes tits up for Ze Germans and import tax is levied on every car they import, they can ‘drop the price’ by 15% on paper but then blame the subsequent 15% increase on our government (if you follow me?)
Personally I’d love one of these and would have one if I were to justify a small, fast and fun city car

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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I'm sure there could be room for an 'R' model, perhaps with a mighty 1.5 TSI engine?

Mr-B

3,780 posts

194 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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That's a big jump in price for nothing! Same power as before, the "new" VW badge and, er, no, can't see anything else they have changed/improved. A low mileage 2019 car with remaining warranty has to be a better bet to save a few grand.

Roboticarm

1,452 posts

61 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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I was all set to order one this weekend, appointment booked and everything.
However not only has the price gone up significantly since 2018 the finance deals are significantly worse too.
Like for like spec is now £50 a month more on PCP than last time.
Every review from 2018 says how good a car it is but the key factor in its success was the low price.
I can't see them selling many at this price. Hopefully they will see sense and offer come incentives and a decent finance offer next quarter

andrewparker

8,014 posts

187 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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Roboticarm said:
However not only has the price gone up significantly since 2018 the finance deals are significantly worse too.
To be fair the introductory finance offer (4.9% APR, £500 dealer contribution) was only available from the 6th February 2018 (when the order books opened) until the 6th March 2018 (when they presumably realised they were going to sell plenty). It then went up to 6.5% APR with no contribution. They could have perhaps been a bit more ambitious with the GFV this time round.

SCEtoAUX

4,119 posts

81 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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Must admit that when I test drove one of these I thought it was brilliant.

Not in the same size/price bracket than the Cooper S I was also considering, but it's certainly the one I'd have bought if my plans hadn't changed.

Macron

9,876 posts

166 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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SCEtoAUX said:
Must admit that when I test drove one of these I thought it was brilliant.

Not in the same size/price bracket than the Cooper S I was also considering, but it's certainly the one I'd have bought if my plans hadn't changed.
Specifically what made it brilliant? Genuine question btw, on paper it’s hardly quick so what makes it good?

wab172uk

2,005 posts

227 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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VW Board room.
Blimey, we are selling these Up GTI's to those brits so fast that we can't build enough of them. Really. Well in that case stop production for a bit, then slap a £2000 price hike on one. Brits are stupid. They'll just pay it.

For anyone not able to buy one outright, and with discount's on Fiesta ST being good. And the fact Ford only charge 2.9% for finance, you'll probably be able to drive off in an ST for less a month than the up. I know which one I'd have.

ukaskew

10,642 posts

221 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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Macron said:
Specifically what made it brilliant? Genuine question btw, on paper it’s hardly quick so what makes it good?
I have a bog standard 59hp model and it's brilliant, best 'family car I've owned. Great to drive, feels way bigger on the inside than it has any right to.

Not hard to see why the warm version is generating rave reviews.

sxmwht

1,562 posts

59 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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How the fk do they fit 5 doors on an Up!?

1974foggy

676 posts

144 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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Will they make an Up RS ? snigger.

ZX10R NIN

27,607 posts

125 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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I wasn't overly impressed with these first time round (I felt the Fiesta was a better warm hatch) apart from it's size (which would have to be a real issue)I don't see why for the same money you'd buy one of these over a Fiesta ST Line/ST Line X which handle better & have more go.

SwUp

5 posts

62 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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Picked one up two months old (900 miles) in Feb for £12k. 5 door with options. Would be nearly £17k at these new prices.

At the risk of smugness, it is a £12k to £14k car not a £17k one.

Still, great fun and cheap to run.

Having had a previous Swift Sport for 5 years before they too went crazy with pricing the Mk3, I'd go with one of those over a full price Up - several available in S Yorkshire at £13,995 brand new at the moment.

Either way - both are pretty rare sights on the road and make far more sense than a £40k 320d!

f1nn

2,693 posts

192 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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I’d much prefer one of these over a Fiesta.

When they first came out a red 3 door pulled up in front of me at a motorway services, the door opened and out a slid a lady with the most amazing legs and arse I’ve ever seen.

I’m a fan.

thel33ter

62 posts

62 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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Roboticarm said:
I was all set to order one this weekend, appointment booked and everything.
However not only has the price gone up significantly since 2018 the finance deals are significantly worse too.
Like for like spec is now £50 a month more on PCP than last time.
Every review from 2018 says how good a car it is but the key factor in its success was the low price.
I can't see them selling many at this price. Hopefully they will see sense and offer come incentives and a decent finance offer next quarter
£50 X 24 is £1200 so less than the amount they bumped the cash price up by.

Besides, get a few out the door at big £, then drop it to the same price as before and everyone will go wow what a bargain!

Basstronic

11 posts

75 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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The up gti was on my wife’s short list ,she ended up getting a brand new swift sport for just over£14000 at that money the swift just made more sense five seats and quite a bit quicker.

Court_S

12,937 posts

177 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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wab172uk said:
VW Board room.
Blimey, we are selling these Up GTI's to those brits so fast that we can't build enough of them. Really. Well in that case stop production for a bit, then slap a £2000 price hike on one. Brits are stupid. They'll just pay it.

For anyone not able to buy one outright, and with discount's on Fiesta ST being good. And the fact Ford only charge 2.9% for finance, you'll probably be able to drive off in an ST for less a month than the up. I know which one I'd have.
Pretty much; we’ve very much bought into the German quality thing even, even when you can buy a VAG stable mate with a different badge for less.

andrewparker

8,014 posts

187 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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Court_S said:
wab172uk said:
VW Board room.
Blimey, we are selling these Up GTI's to those brits so fast that we can't build enough of them. Really. Well in that case stop production for a bit, then slap a £2000 price hike on one. Brits are stupid. They'll just pay it.
Pretty much; we’ve very much bought into the German quality thing even, even when you can buy a VAG stable mate with a different badge for less.
Pretty much, apart from the fact that the car was removed from sale in every country, and every country has been hit by the price rise.

andrewparker

8,014 posts

187 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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ZX10R NIN said:
I wasn't overly impressed with these first time round (I felt the Fiesta was a better warm hatch) apart from it's size (which would have to be a real issue)I don't see why for the same money you'd buy one of these over a Fiesta ST Line/ST Line X which handle better & have more go.
I had a 2018 ST-Line 140 before my up! GTI and it really disappointed me. On the plus side it was far better than any other Fiesta I'd driven previously, but it really felt like Ford had dumbed it down. The engine felt gutless which was really frustrating considering a three cylinder should be full of character, and the steering felt very light and glassy making it hard to feel any connection between you and the front tyres. It felt slow too, much slower than the up! For sure the Fiesta is a far more grown up car, but to it's detriment in my eyes.

Tin Hat

1,371 posts

209 months

Thursday 9th January 2020
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Macron said:
SCEtoAUX said:
Must admit that when I test drove one of these I thought it was brilliant.

Not in the same size/price bracket than the Cooper S I was also considering, but it's certainly the one I'd have bought if my plans hadn't changed.
Specifically what made it brilliant? Genuine question btw, on paper it’s hardly quick so what makes it good?
I’ve got a 3 door, I would agree that it’s a great car, plenty quick enough, in fact I would say it can hustle along at quite an impressive rate , and bags of room inside with a tiny footprint. It feels solid and benefits from the usual VW seat cloth etc that feels durable whilst looking good. Mine has the Beats ICE and a sunroof.
I bought mine with a 1,500 miles on it for £12.4k, I think it offered outstanding value. Heater and AC are monumental, 44 mpg is the worst I have seen. Plenty of reviews moan about the gear change, but I think it’s fine.
Negatives? The sat nav/phone interface is beyond my brainpower, the suspension is a bit crashy, partially due to the concrete tyres that show little sign of wear at 5,500 miles. The wheels are a magnet for kerbs. The car has a soundaktor which is the work of the devil in my opinion, I had it disconnected.