RE: Homolorated! | Forgotten Group B
RE: Homolorated! | Forgotten Group B
Thursday 2nd April 2020

Homolorated! | Forgotten Group B

Hero worship is easy. Let's hear it for the misfits...



Okay, you got us - a week and a bit into lockdown and PH is writing about Group B cars. Quelle surprise. However, hopefully this one is a little different. First off, this is obviously part of a series on homolgation cars in general, and that's surely a subject we can all huddle around like vagrants at a bin fire. Anyone interested in throwing in some more kindling is of course more than welcome.

Secondly, this list isn't the tired old rerun you'll see featured on a lesser car site. No, sir - this is PH; we can all take it for granted that an Audi Quattro or Lancia Delta are unassailably cool. Instead we've chosen to rundown the lesser creations which might have slipped from your memory banks. And if anyone has anything to contribute on the real oddball stuff of the era - cars like the Skoda MTX 160 RS, Lada Samara EVA and Moskvich Aleko 2141KR - then we're all ears...



6. Ford Escort RS1700T
Ford really had a torrid time of it in Group B, which no-one would have expected given its dominance with the rear-drive Escorts for so many years before.

You can hardly blame it, then, for continuing to pursue RWD with the Mk3 Escort body. Which was a front-wheel drive road car. It's a bloody-minded determination common in a few of these cars that makes you admire the end result, Ford persisting with Sierra this and Mustang that to make it work, even using old Escort bits in a desperate bid to make a competitive rally car. (As for the road cars, let's just say the 200 required never quite made it to showrooms and leave it there.)

And the Escort RS1700T would have been a competitive rally car... were it not for four-wheel drive. As it was the Escort just couldn't compete, so the manufacturer had to start again with something more appropriate that would become the RS200. And while the Escort would never be fondly remembered - most of all by Ford - that its engine and transaxle lived on in the RS200 certainly gave it a legacy. We all love a trier...


5. Opel Manta 400
Not as rare a groove as some others on this list, the Manta makes the Homolorated rundown for a couple of reasons: one, for making one of the coolest road cars of the period - see here for proof - and, two, because it might be most sideways rally car ever.

Look for Manta vids anywhere on YouTube and every single one features the old Opel coupe at some ludicrous angle of attack, the big four-cylinder up front barking along and drivers making it look like it's the only sensible way to go through a stage. It's absolutely superb, if not all that fast in the four-wheel drive era. That so many Mantas did eventually enjoy success in the British rally championship helped its reputation over here, though.

If you can find one today - just 245 were produced back in the 1980s - an Opel Manta 400 road car would surely be an experience and a half. We found one in the classifieds a couple of years back, all pent-up wheel arch attitude and jazzy decals. Perfect for the collection alongside a Sport Quattro and 037 Stradale...


4. Mazda RX-7
If the Manta was all about the way it cornered, the RX-7 deserves to be remembered for the way it sounded. Once more, this was never going to be a conventional legend of the era as it lacked four driven wheels (and just seven were built before Group B's demise), but what a damn sexy sounding way of going slower than everyone else.

In case you're not spotting the theme with the other cars, we love the RX-7 for defying all convention. Logic would surely dictate a strong, torquey turbo engine would suit a rally car best, especially when just 20 were required under the 'Evolution' rules. Not Mazda; it persisted with an atmospheric rotary, making peak power at 8,500rpm and 270lb ft at 7,500rpm. Most likely hopeless for hauling the car out of tight hairpin lefts, but what a noise it left behind. The wider rallying world might have forgotten the RX-7; those whoever witnessed it race, however, most surely did not.


3. Nissan 240RS
Another inclusion here for the silly and sideways school of Group B, the 240RS was an evolution of the S110 Silvia of 1979. The Nissan is notable in this group, however, and sneaks into third, for a trio of podiums; Timo Salenen came second in New Zealand (1983), Shekhar Mehta took third the year after in the Ivory Coast and Mike Kirkland snuck third on the 1985 Safari. So it did work, to an extent, and the Nissan was appreciated for its toughness, affordability and relative simplicity, thanks to lots of bits carried over from the Violet GTS Group 4 car.

Perhaps the 240 is forgotten because of everything else Nissan did in motorsport at the time (most notably in sports cars), and the fairly humdrum shape can't have helped with exotic silhouettes like the 037 and the Ferrari below also around. Today, though, there's something immensely appealing about its boxy, purposeful stance, again with arches giving it impact and the minicab origins juxtaposed with the rally equipment. Even the FJ24 engine looks exciting. A Japanese Manta perhaps? There can be no higher praise...


2. Michelotto Ferrari 308 GTB QV
Even those who know about Ferrari in Group B will think of the 288 GTO, and how it was going to tackle the Porsche 959 in competition. But the category had a Maranello representative before then, with the Michelotto-prepared 308 GTBs.

Having built the cars to Group 4 spec before the 1983 rule change, Michelotto knew their way around a 308. Obviously the Group B work involved more power - around 320hp, produced at 8,000rpm - but also reducing weight, meaning a Group B 308 was around two seconds a kilometre faster on a stage than the old car. In total, just four such cars were built by Michelotto, with just three using the four-valve V8. Lacking four-wheel drive and the outright power of some competitors, the 308 was never top of the timing sheets on international events, but who cares? A Ferrari rally car is immensely cool - just look at the pictures - which is why it's so high up. And if you're wondering what a Group B 308 GTB might actually be like, wonder no more; this very Michelotto car, a 1984 WRC competitor once driven by Harri Toivonen, is now for sale...


1. Citroen BX 4TC
Trust Citroen to do something bizarre when it came to Group B rally cars. The BX never looked to anyone like a natural rally weapon, though Citroen persisted. But it persisted the wrong way: despite the Audi being the poster car of this era, both the Lancia 037 and Peugeot 205 T16 showed that sticking the engine in the middle was the way to go. So Citroen put the four-cylinder turbo longitudinally in the front, with loads of weight over the axle.

Arriving late, the BX 4TC never shone, achieving a best of sixth place. The road car was arguably even more of a debacle, with only 85 sold by 1988. Things got so bad, rumour goes, that Citroen attempted to buy back the cars - built alongside Heuliez - and have them scrapped to prevent any expensive responsibility relating to the handbuilt machines further down the line. And that's why we love the BX 4TC; exactly because nobody liked it, even down to the people who built it. For being a bit weird, extremely courageous and as French as a garlic saucisson, the 4TC had to be our number one.

Images: RX-7 by Rowan Horncastle, for RM Auctions, Manta by Tim Scott for RM Auctions, Ferrari courtesy of Girardo&Co.

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hammo19

Original Poster:

6,832 posts

216 months

Thursday 2nd April 2020
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Thank you chaps. Simply wonderful cars. Just the tonic I needed.

take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey

7,032 posts

75 months

Thursday 2nd April 2020
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Wasn't there an mr2 based grp b or did I dream that?

ETA Answered my own question. No. That was grp S. MR2 222D.

The grp b was the RWD celica tct.

Edited by take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey on Thursday 2nd April 07:36

Butter Face

33,684 posts

180 months

Thursday 2nd April 2020
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Nice read that. I wonder how many BX 4TC there are still in existence!!

ess

801 posts

198 months

Thursday 2nd April 2020
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Lengthened front end on the BX to accommodate that longitudinal engine I guess.

Couple of pics of a RS1700T from 2017 Eifel Rallye Festival.
Always some interesting curios at that event.

S




rastapasta

2,336 posts

158 months

Thursday 2nd April 2020
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I cant help but think that if you put the engine of the BX behind the drivers she may have been a much more potent proposition.Off topic slightly I do take umbrage with the sentiment that Group B was the golden age of rallying. Personally i think that was Group A/WRC with Burbs Makinen McRae et al.

ess

801 posts

198 months

Thursday 2nd April 2020
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240RS from the 2016 event.

S






cookie1600

2,412 posts

181 months

Thursday 2nd April 2020
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article headline said:
Let's here it for the misfits...
Come on, a good article spoilt by basic spelling.


Edited by cookie1600 on Thursday 2nd April 08:23

Veeayt

3,139 posts

225 months

Thursday 2nd April 2020
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Never heard about the Lada mentioned. Probably for a good reason

ess

801 posts

198 months

Thursday 2nd April 2020
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Not Group B, but always enjoy the quirky Citroen rally entries.

S












Butter Face

33,684 posts

180 months

Thursday 2nd April 2020
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I just remembered I have a picture of an RS200 from the Ford Heritage collection.



And this very nice Mk1 Mexico (I think)


ArsE82

21,131 posts

207 months

Thursday 2nd April 2020
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cookie1600 said:
article headline said:
Let's here it for the misfits...
Come on, a good article spoilt by basic spelling.


Edited by cookie1600 on Thursday 2nd April 08:23
I’m guessing the proofreader has been furloughed!

Edited by ArsE82 on Thursday 2nd April 10:45

TCEvo

14,659 posts

222 months

Thursday 2nd April 2020
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Veeayt said:
Never heard about the Lada mentioned. Probably for a good reason
That's very cool.

Johnspex

4,891 posts

204 months

Thursday 2nd April 2020
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Butter Face said:
I just remembered I have a picture of an RS200 from the Ford Heritage collection.



And this very nice Mk1 Mexico (I think)

You think incorrectly I'm afraid. That's a Mk2.

DelicaL400

527 posts

131 months

Thursday 2nd April 2020
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Colin McRae's first ever overall rally win was in a 240RS.

That blue RS1700T is owned by Malcolm Wilson, it was on display at M-Sport last time I was there.

Butter Face

33,684 posts

180 months

Thursday 2nd April 2020
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Johnspex said:
Butter Face said:
I just remembered I have a picture of an RS200 from the Ford Heritage collection.



And this very nice Mk1 Mexico (I think)

You think incorrectly I'm afraid. That's a Mk2.
Cheers. I don’t know the models well enough. Was a complete guess!

Xenoous

2,012 posts

78 months

Thursday 2nd April 2020
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Great read, thanks for posting smile

GravelBen

16,285 posts

250 months

Thursday 2nd April 2020
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A few old Grp.B Rwd beasties are still rallying down here in NZ, great to see out on the stages. Though I lose track of which are genuine and which are replicas! hehe

IIRC Vatanen said he never really got on with the Manta due to it having quite strong understeer, perhaps the sideways driving style is a way of combating that.


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slopes

41,307 posts

207 months

Thursday 2nd April 2020
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Is it just me or does anyone else think the 240RS would make an entertaining road car with the appropriate wheels and tyres to fill the arches?

With regards to Grp B, i remember being at - i think - Rallysprint event at Donington Park when Marc Duez was demonstrating the newly released 6R4 Metro and boy was he pedaling it that day.

Usget

5,426 posts

231 months

Thursday 2nd April 2020
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I've always loved the BX 4TC, I think I even had a poster of it on my wall when I was a kid, just because it's so ungainly. Brilliantly ugly thing.

jzakariya

184 posts

138 months

Thursday 2nd April 2020
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Wonderful article. The Rx-7 and the 308 for me, please.