Films/TV you are meant to like, but don't

[Gameface]

jet_noise said:

Gameface said:

People too lazy to watch more than an episode of two of something (especially The Wire) should not comment on them.

May I respectfully disagree?
Cobblers

If a series cannot make even ep1 watchable then it is surely a very good sign of what's to come. Especially as the 1st is the one usually intended to hook you in so often has extra effort put in.

You can disagree but you'd be wrong.

Let's take The Sopranos. 86 episodes.

You can judge the entire series, 8 years of production, 86 hours of television, by watching the first 1 hour episode?

That's what you're saying? To paraphrase you...

Utter cobblers!

[Gameface]

Big-Bo-Beep said:

I get your point, but a detractor's honest opinion is just as valid as a fan's opinion.

Only if they've watched it.

See my post above.

[Big-Bo-Beep]

Gameface said:

You can disagree but you'd be wrong.

Let's take The Sopranos. 86 episodes.

You can judge the entire series, 8 years of production, 86 hours of television, by watching the first 1 hour episode?

That's what you're saying? To paraphrase you...

Utter cobblers!

You are wrong, so you would watch every episode of Mrs Brown's Boys before you declared it shi*e or did you decide that after 5 mins ?

Talk sense.

[Tyre Smoke]

Gameface said:

jet_noise said:

Gameface said:

People too lazy to watch more than an episode of two of something (especially The Wire) should not comment on them.

May I respectfully disagree?
Cobblers

If a series cannot make even ep1 watchable then it is surely a very good sign of what's to come. Especially as the 1st is the one usually intended to hook you in so often has extra effort put in.

You can disagree but you'd be wrong.

Let's take The Sopranos. 86 episodes.

You can judge the entire series, 8 years of production, 86 hours of television, by watching the first 1 hour episode?

That's what you're saying? To paraphrase you...

Utter cobblers!

Strongly disagree with you. I watched the first episode of The Sopranos and was immediately hooked. Same with Breaking Bad. And Boardwalk Empire.
Game of Thrones, halfway through first episode I knew it wasn't for me.

[Cotty]

AC43 said:

Noone over 12 should ever admit to enjoying Harry Potter, Star Wars or Lord of the Rings stuff.

Why is that, do you surround yourself with people who judge you by what you like and dislike, then you need new friends. I was 8 years old when I first watched A New Hope, am I supposed to lie to people that I still like it?

[Gameface]

Big-Bo-Beep said:

Gameface said:

You can disagree but you'd be wrong.

Let's take The Sopranos. 86 episodes.

You can judge the entire series, 8 years of production, 86 hours of television, by watching the first 1 hour episode?

That's what you're saying? To paraphrase you...

Utter cobblers!

You are wrong, so you would watch every episode of Mrs Brown's Boys before you declared it shi*e or did you decide that after 5 mins ?

Talk sense.

Sense? What I'm saying is common sense.

I personally wouldn't talk about something I have no experience of. That's decent advice in any facet of life.

Talking of things you know nothing about will only lead to you making a fool of yourself.

Also stop making things up. I never said you need to watch EVERY episode. I said 1 episode is not enough. I fully stand by that.

I've never seen Mrs Brown's Boys, so I wouldn't/couldn't comment on it.

Also the big difference here is that, I can't imagine many people believe, not even it's biggest fans, that Mrs Brown's Boys is one of the best comedies ever made.

Yet we have people here writing off programmes that are pretty much held up as some of best television ever made (The Wire, Breaking Bad, The Sopranos) after not even finishing the first episode.

My point is very easy to grasp. I'm sure you understand it. If you wish not to acknowledge it, that's up to you.

I'm not going to argue about something I care so little about, any longer.

Our interaction is at an end.

You welcome to the last word. You seem the sort of person who craves it.

I won't respond.

[Cotty]

Tyre Smoke said:

Strongly disagree with you. I watched the first episode of The Sopranos and was immediately hooked. Same with Breaking Bad. And Boardwalk Empire.
Game of Thrones, halfway through first episode I knew it wasn't for me.

It was the midget porn wasn't it, didn't do it for me either.

I think sometimes people just don't like a certain actor and thus refuse to watch anything with that person in it. I really enjoyed House but my mum refused to try to watch it because she dislikes Hugh Laurie. Same for me with Game of Thrones, take out Peter Dinklage and I might have given further episodes a try.

Same with Idris Elba, don't like him certainly will not watch Luther or anything else he is in.

[Johnnytheboy]

General Price said:

Saw thread title.

Checked in to see if the highest rated tv series and films were mentioned.

Wasn't disappointed.

Isn't that rather the point?

[Red 5]

Harry Potter : Just find it too childish.

Lord of the Rings : Two much walking. Endless battles. Bored very early on.

Withnail and I : Hated it from the first moments. The atmosphere and acting!

Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas : Wanted to like it. Struggled and failed!

Star Trek : Any of it. I watched the old ones as a kid and they bored me then.

The effing endless superhero / marvel films churned out ad infinitum!
Make some proper films PLEASE!

Anything with baking.
Anything with dancing.
99% of anything with vampires in them.
Any of the American dumbed down network TV crime dramas. Stupid story lines, no swearing etc.

I find some others dislikes interesting.
I loved the The Sopranoes and The Wire. They are slow to start and have a lot of character names to learn.
If you like the ‘feel’ of the show and the actors etc, then you’ll get into it.
If the general atmosphere doesn’t appeal, then that’s all she wrote!

OFAH was funny back in the day. It had catchy theme tune, quite a few catch phrases and an easy pace. It seems ste now, but that’s life I guess.

[cologne2792]

cuprabob said:

deeen said:

Centurion07 said:

cologne2792 said:

Cheers - watching it now and just don't get why it's supposed to be a cult classic.

Mean spirited humour, unlikable selfish characters and jokes that are rarely funny.

That selfish unlikeability is only a facade though which is precisely why it works.

Delboy takes a beating from the Driscoll brothers in order that Rodney doesn't have to. That's not the action of a selfish man.

Del's explanation is no less convincing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFmwyBjV8v8

I don't think Delboy was in Cheers? It might be me but... one of us is about to hear a whoosh!

I believe the "cheers" was a salutation and not in reference to the programme.

My fault, should have put it in inverted commas.

"Cheers" - forerunner of Frasier and The Tortellis

Watched loads of episodes in the early morning slot on Channel Four.
Occasionally good one-liners but not remotely as funny as "Frasier".
Hard to believe they're so connected.

[DaveGrohl]

I've managed to spend the last 20 years quite happily avoiding Sexy Beast but decidied to watch it tomight after reading several posts saying it's up there with Lock Stock, Layer Cake, Snatch etc.

It isn't.

Christ alive, what a boring first hour. When it finally gets going it's all just a bit meh. It's not the worst film I've ever seen but how anyone can give it more than 3 out of 5 I've no idea.

PS I hate lockdown. I'm finding that I'm watching films that I have steered cleared of through instinct, but am now finding myself watching through thinking "oh yeah that was supposed to be good" even though I wasn't interested first time round. Turns out instinct was right all along.

Edited by DaveGrohl on Wednesday 15th April 00:28

[DaveGrohl]

cologne2792 said:

cuprabob said:

deeen said:

Centurion07 said:

cologne2792 said:

Cheers - watching it now and just don't get why it's supposed to be a cult classic.

Mean spirited humour, unlikable selfish characters and jokes that are rarely funny.

That selfish unlikeability is only a facade though which is precisely why it works.

Delboy takes a beating from the Driscoll brothers in order that Rodney doesn't have to. That's not the action of a selfish man.

Del's explanation is no less convincing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFmwyBjV8v8

I don't think Delboy was in Cheers? It might be me but... one of us is about to hear a whoosh!

I believe the "cheers" was a salutation and not in reference to the programme.

My fault, should have put it in inverted commas.

"Cheers" - forerunner of Frasier and The Tortellis

Watched loads of episodes in the early morning slot on Channel Four.
Occasionally good one-liners but not remotely as funny as "Frasier".
Hard to believe they're so connected.

Cheers being the forerunner was a slightly different programme and of its time. I thoroughly enjoyed it and enjoyed the subsequent Frasier every bit as much. Frasier's humour was obviously more sophisticated partly due to changing tastes but also because of who the main character was.

[biggbn]

I am going to rewatch breaking bad because I have watched it all and thought...m'eh. Much preferred Saul. I will not watch Lord of the Rings trilogy again as I have tried several times and each time find them bloated, flabby, lacking in the humour that occasionally surfaced in the books and at least 30-45 minutes too long each. Casino? Scorceses MTV effort, stylish, one dimensional, beautifully shot, beautiful to watch. Cones across as caricature from the start, dumbed down, zero empathy for any of the comic book characters.

LA Confidential. Not noire enough for noire fans, too noire for commercial movie fans. Pastiche characters, and an uncharacteristically terrible performance from a one dimensional Crowe who looks like he read Micky Spillane in prep but didn't understand it....

[davek_964]

Cotty said:

I think sometimes people just don't like a certain actor and thus refuse to watch anything with that person in it. I really enjoyed House but my mum refused to try to watch it because she dislikes Hugh Laurie. Same for me with Game of Thrones, take out Peter Dinklage and I might have given further episodes a try.

Same with Idris Elba, don't like him certainly will not watch Luther or anything else he is in.

I think Dinklage is excellent in GOT, but I know what you mean about specific actors. I really like Killing Eve, but I really really don't like Sandra Oh. Every time she's on the screen, I have a temptation to switch the TV off.

[Grafter123]

Tv - Game of thrones, Mr robot, Fargo, Chernobyl , Sherlock

Movies - Dunkirk, The godfather, Star wars, Grand Budapest hotel, Interstellar

[Sparky137]

In my opinion:

The Office
Sienfeld
Mrs Browns Boys
Westworld (the current series)
Dr Who (the current series)
War Of The Worlds (the BBC's clusterfk)
Downton Abbey
Last Of The Summer Wine
6 Underground
Spectral
Any Fast & Furious except Hobbs & Shaw
Any Jaws Film
Any of the Jurassic Park films

Just a start, I could name many more if I put my mind to it.

[Cotty]

Sparky137 said:

In my opinion:

The Office
Sienfeld
Mrs Browns Boys
Westworld (the current series)
Dr Who (the current series)
War Of The Worlds (the BBC's clusterfk)
Downton Abbey
Last Of The Summer Wine
6 Underground
Spectral
Any Fast & Furious except Hobbs & Shaw
Any Jaws Film
Any of the Jurassic Park films

Just a start, I could name many more if I put my mind to it.

Johnnytheboy said:

Bit more justification on why you don't like things would improve this thread.

[Johnnytheboy]

And....

Johnnytheboy said:

Not talking about mass market stuff that you are far too clever to like, I'm talking about critically acclaimed material. Not after a thread where everyone shows how refined they are by rubbishing Mrs Brown's Boys etc.

[tangerine_sedge]

The Marvel Universe films. There is not a single second of jeopardy in any of the films, characters are never really in danger because they are regularly brouht back from the dead by a bks plot twist or they just find a new one from an alternative universe. Ultimately, I don't care enough about any of the characters, and the plots are fundamentally the same structure with different heroes and villains inserted.

[shih tzu faced]

Surprised at the number who don't like The Office, but it just goes to show how different we all are.

I love that programme, beautifully observed and well acted. Subtle, funny and cringeworthy (for the right reasons) all at the same time. Most importantly once you get involved you begin to care about the characters which is something I find totally lacking in many of the US tv shows on Netflix. Most of these seem to be about zombies, vampires, violent drug gangs or yet more detective / police stuff.

To try and get back on topic, I think that's the crux of why I didn't like Luther. Unbelievable, unlikeable characters, stupid storylines and it seemed to be infected with the same disease that so many current programmes have... to me it just seemed to be trying so hard to be 'cool' that it forgot to be actually involving and enjoyable.