RE: BMW 535i (E39) | Spotted

RE: BMW 535i (E39) | Spotted

Monday 1st June 2020

BMW 535i (E39) | Spotted

M550i got you lusting after a big capacity Beemer?



No doubt news of the M550i’s UK introduction has put more than one PHer in the mind of a fast, svelte BMW – so as a service to the nation may we turn your attention to the oft-forgotten E39 535i? We’re all big fans of the E39 5 Series at PH – that much was clear when we pitted the M5 against its progeny last year – and the V8-powered 535i is no exception. Unlike the classic-grade M5, it's easily attainable in 2020 and still brimmed with the same big BMW nineties charm. What's not to like?

Alright, yes - the fuel bills. BMW’s M62 3.5-litre V8 was said to return 23.5mpg back in 1996 when it was a brand new motor and combined testing was a little more, erm, lenient; you can be certain age will have knocked the edge off that original figure even in the best kept examples. But the unfiltered vocals of BMW’s aluminium-blocked, atmospheric M62 more than make up for its thirst; there’s a purposeful bass but nothing too shouty. 235hp is less than half the M550i’s output, but in a 1.65-tonne saloon it’s enough for a 0-60mph dash of 6.6 seconds. That’s Jaguar XK8 pace in a much roomier package.


Unlike BMW’s latest quick 5 Series, the 535i wasn’t tuned by Bavaria’s performance division, so it’s not claimed to be the sharpest tool under the sun. But the talents of the E39 are rightly famous; it was the first 5 Series to extensively use aluminium in the front suspension and the first to incorporate the lightweight metal at the back, too. While every E39 variant has always felt more grand tourer than sports car – all the way up to the brilliantly involving M5 – the balance and poise of the setup always shone through.

The 535i, with its 236lb ft of unboosted torque, is an ideal example. Expect effortlessness in operation combined with real confidence when tackling bends. The E39 was all about consuming miles at a consistently high pace. It does that while occupants are surrounded by that warm, cossetting nineties BMW interior decor, with wood veneers and simple dash designs. BMW’s tidy instrument cluster dials do exactly what they need to; display information in a tidy, easy-to-read manner. The current version should take note.


Thanks to its ease of use and all-round loveliness, the three owners of today’s Spotted, a 1997 example, have clearly put the car to good use. It has 139,000 miles on the clock, which is a decent chunk by anyone’s measure although nothing when you consider the car’s age. Anyway, the forums will have us believe that an E39 535i’s relative simplicity also lends it to decent reliability; indeed, some suggest the M62 block is so strong you may as well go for the higher power 540i and enjoy 50hp more for the same running costs.

In 2020, though, the priority ought to be condition over a few extra horses, which is why we’ve picked out this car, which is described in the ad as having no faults and being HPI clear. It’s MOT’d up to August and best of all, the asking price is negotiable, so you could very well be looking at a big-engined 5 Series for under £4k. 

SPECIFICATION - BMW 535I (E39)
Engine:
3,498cc V8
Transmission: 5-speed automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 235@5,700rpm
Torque (lb ft): 236@3,300rpm
MPG: 23.5
CO2: 286g/km
First registered: 1997
Recorded mileage: 139,000
Price new: N/A
Yours for: £4,000

Click here for the full ad.


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Discussion

Quhet

Original Poster:

2,624 posts

159 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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Lovely cars, these but that grey leather and mis-matched wood trim is so off putting. It would be the first thing I'd look at changing if i bought this one, but then I'd get distracted by something else and end up not doing it...laugh

biggbn

26,561 posts

233 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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I had a 525i, only sold because we could not cure its many oil leaks, paid a grand for it, sold it for about 500 quid if memory serves. Bloody good car, would love another e39. Were these the best quality all round 'everyman' cars ever released to the public? Wonderful straight six and bent 8s, decent diesels for the times, build quality superb, great interior, great handling. Whats not to like?

Water Fairy

6,051 posts

168 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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Nice but seems pricey to me

BuzzBravado

2,947 posts

184 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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E39 was easily the most reliable car i've had, and best value. Really tried to like the E60 that followed but it was such a let down.

Scrump

23,265 posts

171 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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I had a black 535i with black leather and piano black trim. Came with BBS split rim alloys and looked amazing. Had a manual ‘box which I think is quite rare on these.
It never felt that quick and as it was a V8 (and had the older type steering rack) the steering was not as good as on the 6cylinder models.

anonymous-user

67 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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The 535i was always a bit pointless; if you're not that fussed about having more than enough power get the sweeter steering, more reliable, and much more efficient 530i because the 535i is just a hobbled 540i with all the pitfalls of the V8 and not enough power to bother.

ETA - Also, great though the E39 was new most of them are very tired now and likely to need significant attention to the suspension to get them driving properly, and like any 20+ year old car you'd be well advised to totally overhaul the cooling system if it's going into everyday use. Anyone with an expectation of buying one of these in 2020 and putting real mileage on it without issues and niggles has never run an old car!

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 1st June 10:59

Clarkedontgo

316 posts

72 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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Brilliant cars but Rust in the end of the sills and timing chain guides are 2 massive jobs on these and it’s a case of when not if

s m

23,732 posts

216 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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biggbn said:
Were these the best quality all round 'everyman' cars ever released to the public?
Think Chris Harris suggested that moniker for the 528i version some 25 years ago or so?

I prefer the smaller 3 of that era but the current 3 is probably as big as the old 5.

Back on GG forum track though, I’m not sure whether Remainers or Brexiteers prefer these nowadays.....

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,331 posts

111 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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Nice enough cars ( I did over 300,000 miles in 3 E39s - a B10V8s was the closest to these ).

They will though now feel "old", even if they were new. Everything will be a bit mushier and vaguer than a more modern car, as is the way. The V8 engined cars had the less preferable recirculating steering - a 530i is probably preferable to this, as had similar performance but sweeter steer with better rack and lighter engine. 535's had more torque though.

These cars do rust though ( wheel arches and boot ), pixels go walkabout and the gearbox will be tired unless the oil was religiously changed ( against the manufacturers advice ). Facelift models post 2000 look a lot nicer , imho.

This one seems a lot of money for what is on offer...

Krikkit

27,306 posts

194 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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A gingercator-equipped E39 in a dark hue on style 32's has to be up there for most handsome saloon ever made for me. Lovely.

Guvernator

13,666 posts

178 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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Strange that they've singled out the 535i and completely ignored it's better sibling, the 540i. If you have to have a non M version of the e39 v8, why not go for the 540i instead? They cost almost the same now but the 540i has 50 more bhp and 90lb ft more torque for near enough the same running costs.

StuntmanMike

11,671 posts

164 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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I’m envious of the shallow tray next to the Cigar Lighter.

The E60 is useless in that regard, also there is a cheeky way of making that tray a wireless charger.

StuntmanMike

11,671 posts

164 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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On the 535i, it made more sense when the range went 528, 535.
With the slightly more powerful 530 they made no sense.
And it was the 528 not the 530 that was branded the perfect all rounder.

Court_S

14,162 posts

190 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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Whilst I really, really like this era of BMW’s, I’ve never really understood the point in the 535 because it doesn’t seem like enough of an improvement over a 530.

Gad-Westy

15,478 posts

226 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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s m said:
biggbn said:
Were these the best quality all round 'everyman' cars ever released to the public?
Think Chris Harris suggested that moniker for the 528i version some 25 years ago or so?

I prefer the smaller 3 of that era but the current 3 is probably as big as the old 5.

Back on GG forum track though, I’m not sure whether Remainers or Brexiteers prefer these nowadays.....
Was Chris Harris even a journalist when these came out? Not sure he's old enough.

This is nice but as someone else pointed out, it's stuck between a rock and a hard place as options go. A 530 or 540 would both make more sense. Same story when the E34 530 came with a small V8 with barely any more performance than the 525. I'm not sure why people spec'd these, nice as I'm sure they are.

Triumph Man

9,048 posts

181 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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What is the general concensus for the non-M5 "sweet spot" in the E39 range? 530i - sweeter steering, most powerful 6? 530d - refined diesel and reasonably quick and economincal? 528i - smaller 6 doesn't (apparently) seem to suffer the oil consumption issues of the later M54B30 engine? 525 tds - so slow you can spend more time enjoying your E39?









last one slightly tongue in cheek

Edited by Triumph Man on Monday 1st June 13:46

anonymous-user

67 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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528i or 530i for me. Enough power, beautiful I6 smoothness and engine note, better steering feel, capable of great economy, and no real weaknesses in the engines themselves.

I imagine the 530d experience has aged like milk in the sun. It was impressive in the mid 90s compared to diesels that had gone before, but it's just slow and smelly now.

J4CKO

43,911 posts

213 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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Four grand, really ?

SOTW fodder.

gmackay2

185 posts

208 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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had a 525i Sport auto saloon and 530d Sport touring auto.
The petrol 6 was very smoth and quite an agile car on the twisties too, with good steering feedback and loads of grip. It wasn't fast, but rev'd very smooth to the red line and while the autobox isn't a patch on todyay's gearboxes. Overall it worked. Comfy and quiet on the motorway and engaging enough on winding A and B roads.

The 530d was a brilliant car, took it from 96k to 170k in about 3 years. Upgraded lots of bits and it handled way better than a diesel estate car should! Wasn't 100% reliable though, water pump died and the inline fuel pump packed in. But it was a 2000 X reg and things do wear out. Had a decat and EGR bypass as well. Over the full mileage it averaged 37mpg. Ultimately rust started to take hold and parted ways with it but do regret selling it. I bought a V70 D5 R-Line twin turbo after it. But still preferred the 530d.

1974foggy

739 posts

157 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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As lovely as it is, price seems a bit steep for a none facelift, none sport slushbox 535i?