Squire padlock stuck closed
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Was looking to go for a ride this evening but my Squire Stronghold SS65CS padlock will not unlock from the chain. I've got 2 keys and neither will work. The keys go all the way in but the barrel will not turn.
I've tried all wiggling and jiggling the key while trying, wiggling the arm the holds the chain while trying the key, blowing in the hole (stop sniggering at the back!) to move any dirt, loads of WD40 and more wiggling, banging it on the floor to help move any stuck pins, but it just won't budge. It was last used on saturday and there was no hint of any problem.
It's stored outside so I'm thinking that last nights downpoor has made some water go into the lock and now it's had it. I'm going to wait a few hours and hope the WD works its magic and try again.
Does anyone have any tips? Where it's parked is a good 30 metres from a plug socket, and I don't own an angle grinder so i'd rather like to avoid that option!
The lock is a few years old but i've not even had the bloody bike 2 weeks!
A google of the lock comes up with a few different ones, but if it helps, it's this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXbjNq2OqD0
I've tried all wiggling and jiggling the key while trying, wiggling the arm the holds the chain while trying the key, blowing in the hole (stop sniggering at the back!) to move any dirt, loads of WD40 and more wiggling, banging it on the floor to help move any stuck pins, but it just won't budge. It was last used on saturday and there was no hint of any problem.
It's stored outside so I'm thinking that last nights downpoor has made some water go into the lock and now it's had it. I'm going to wait a few hours and hope the WD works its magic and try again.
Does anyone have any tips? Where it's parked is a good 30 metres from a plug socket, and I don't own an angle grinder so i'd rather like to avoid that option!
The lock is a few years old but i've not even had the bloody bike 2 weeks!
A google of the lock comes up with a few different ones, but if it helps, it's this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXbjNq2OqD0
WD40 isn’t a release spray, it’s a water dispersant I believe.
A can of plusgas would be my first choice.
Plus gas English Abrasives 802-10 Plusgas Aerosol 400ml https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0001P02RK/ref=cm_sw_r...
A can of plusgas would be my first choice.
Plus gas English Abrasives 802-10 Plusgas Aerosol 400ml https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0001P02RK/ref=cm_sw_r...
Thanks all for the suggestions but still no joy.
For anyone looking for plus gas then Wilko motor shop sell it, saves waiting a few days for delivery.
I think a pin or something must have broken inside, because it doesn't even want to try and turn. It's as if the key is the wrong one.
Looks like i'll be buying an angle grinder and a few extension leads tomorrow!
Would it be possible to drill the barrel or would I be wasting my time?
For anyone looking for plus gas then Wilko motor shop sell it, saves waiting a few days for delivery.
I think a pin or something must have broken inside, because it doesn't even want to try and turn. It's as if the key is the wrong one.
Looks like i'll be buying an angle grinder and a few extension leads tomorrow!
Would it be possible to drill the barrel or would I be wasting my time?
Kiribati268 said:
Would it be possible to drill the barrel or would I be wasting my time?
While I expect you can drill any lock (eventually) I imagine this Squire will be tough. Also, I guess some skill might be needed to drill a high-security lock? YouTube isn't short of How To videos about lock drilling, so what do I know?Ed. said:
I would leave it to soak overnight in solvents and try tapping again tomorrow.
^ this is what I'd try too, before heading for that angle grinder.Salted_Peanut said:
30 minutes and (if the lock's got anti-drill pins) maybe the odd broken drill bit too?
That's why it takes so long !If you're lucky it can be less than 5 mins
Assuming you have shrp drill bits (I'd advise buying a cheap set from Toolstation etc)
Only the first small sizes break, once you get into 5mm they chew through quickly - might even be worth starting with a 5mm
Working on the basis that if whatever you do doesn’t work, and you’ll end up drilling or grinding the life out of the f
ker anyway, I’d try this…
Get a screwdriver that just fits through the hole in the key head and use it as a lever to exert more torque as you minutely move the key from the furthest depth of the barrel whilst moving in a backwards/outwards direction whilst (importantly) twisting the key both left and right, many many times.
You correct pressure to use is one that questions whether you might snap the key. The incorrect pressure….
Your key/lock tolerance is ‘out’. If the above works, buy a new padlock.
ker anyway, I’d try this…Get a screwdriver that just fits through the hole in the key head and use it as a lever to exert more torque as you minutely move the key from the furthest depth of the barrel whilst moving in a backwards/outwards direction whilst (importantly) twisting the key both left and right, many many times.
You correct pressure to use is one that questions whether you might snap the key. The incorrect pressure….
Your key/lock tolerance is ‘out’. If the above works, buy a new padlock.
tumble dryer said:
Working on the basis that if whatever you do doesn’t work, and you’ll end up drilling or grinding the life out of the fker anyway, I’d try this…
Get a screwdriver that just fits through the hole in the key head and use it as a lever to exert more torque as you minutely move the key from the furthest depth of the barrel whilst moving in a backwards/outwards direction whilst (importantly) twisting the key both left and right, many many times.
You correct pressure to use is one that questions whether you might snap the key. The incorrect pressure….
Your key/lock tolerance is ‘out’. If the above works, buy a new padlock.
You bloody legend! Saved me from lots of pain, anger and swearing trying to drill/angle grind. ker anyway, I’d try this…Get a screwdriver that just fits through the hole in the key head and use it as a lever to exert more torque as you minutely move the key from the furthest depth of the barrel whilst moving in a backwards/outwards direction whilst (importantly) twisting the key both left and right, many many times.
You correct pressure to use is one that questions whether you might snap the key. The incorrect pressure….
Your key/lock tolerance is ‘out’. If the above works, buy a new padlock.
I gave it an overnight bath in the plus gas stuff but it was still stuck solid. A tiny bit of rocking but still no signs of movement. I was dubious to try forcing it because of fears of snapping the key but after this I was drilling it anyway, so why not?
Got the lock in the vice and used an allen key set to provide more force. I varied the force and wiggled as I did it, I winced as I could feel the key start to flex, but rather than a bend and snap, there was a tinny click as the key threw over and opened up
Time to go for a ride, new padlock will be here today.
Thank you all.
Kiribati268 said:
You bloody legend! Saved me from lots of pain, anger and swearing trying to drill/angle grind.
I gave it an overnight bath in the plus gas stuff but it was still stuck solid. A tiny bit of rocking but still no signs of movement. I was dubious to try forcing it because of fears of snapping the key but after this I was drilling it anyway, so why not?
Got the lock in the vice and used an allen key set to provide more force. I varied the force and wiggled as I did it, I winced as I could feel the key start to flex, but rather than a bend and snap, there was a tinny click as the key threw over and opened up
Time to go for a ride, new padlock will be here today.
Thank you all.
Will you use the padlock again?I gave it an overnight bath in the plus gas stuff but it was still stuck solid. A tiny bit of rocking but still no signs of movement. I was dubious to try forcing it because of fears of snapping the key but after this I was drilling it anyway, so why not?
Got the lock in the vice and used an allen key set to provide more force. I varied the force and wiggled as I did it, I winced as I could feel the key start to flex, but rather than a bend and snap, there was a tinny click as the key threw over and opened up
Time to go for a ride, new padlock will be here today.
Thank you all.
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