RE: £85k drop-top supercars | Six of the Best

RE: £85k drop-top supercars | Six of the Best

Saturday 19th September 2020

£85k drop-top supercars | Six of the Best

Summer is slipping away as we speak - best prolong it with a cut-price convertible supercar



It used to be true that if you called yourself a real enthusiast - a petrol-veined, apex-meeting, flag-taking enthusiast - then the prospect of a roofless supercar was about as interesting as a topless cherry bakewell. Because they made no sense to the enthusiast mindset: they were invariably heavier and bendier and therefore slower and rubbish. Owning and driving a supercar was very much about the ‘super’ bit, which meant enduring a load-bearing ceiling over your bonce. 

But times change. Cars and the methods of building them get cleverer and cleverer. If you’re lucky, your preferred manufacturer will have invested in the structural wonder that is a carbon fibre tub, and said supercar will have no more need for a roof than a modern phone has for a cable. Even if it hasn’t, six-figure cars are now built from such clever concoctions of exotic high-strength materials that they generally laugh in the face of anything as ungainly as scuttle shake. 

This tends to make them good. Very good, in fact, because there are few pleasures more genuinely satisfying than having the wind in your hair while a large petrol engine wobbles your ear drums. Add in the knowledge that you couldn’t have gone round the last corner any quicker in the coupe variant, and you’ve got yourself one of the most compelling cars of any stripe - as the sales figures of most supercar makers tend to reflect. This generally makes the Spider or Spyder or Convertible or Roadster or whatever a little pricer than its standard equivalent so we’re doling out £10k more to our contestants than when they went shopping for conventional supercars at the start of the summer. Time to soak up the last of the sunshine…



Lamborghini Gallardo, 2007,  34k, £77,000

Wilton House supercar meet use to be one of the highlights of my year, it was an excuse for the PH staff to get a load of supercars in for the weekend and convoy our way to a Wiltshire country home. One of the years I was lucky enough to get allocated an Aston Martin DBS, and though it is an elegant car to cruise around in, I never really got on with the feel of the rear to truly enjoy driving it. Plus, in the rear-view mirror, one of my colleagues had been allocated a lovely topless Gallardo, a permanent envious reflection for most of the event.

The next day we were discussing logistics on returning the cars and my colleague needed to head up to Aston, so I cheekily suggested it would be easier for him to take the Aston and without hesitation the Lambo keys were mine. In a 24-hour period I managed to put on a good chunk of the miles to the next service window, with round trips to friends, my parents, and the best roads I could find. Turning all the driver aids off did nothing but return predictable performance; you could hang the tail out with controllable ease - no danger of chassis twist and sudden torsion release here. Roof-down, V10 melody and a chassis stiff enough to get away with being topless made it a dream day.

I’ve not jumped in one since that weekend so would be very interested in how they have aged in the last 13 years, but it ranks easily as the second favourite car I have ever driven – and here is one with modest mileage and a manual gearbox for all the fun you can muster. Roof down motoring is not about posing, it’s about being surrounded by the elements, listening to an immense exhaust soundtrack. Look no further.
PD


Mercedes AMG GT, 2018, 7k, £82,000

No reminiscences from me this week I'm afraid, I just love the look of the AMG GT and that's all I have! Honestly what more do you need? Well, a 550hp bi-turbo V8 and sub 4 second 0-60mph time helps, because it means the GT really does go as fast as it looks (unlike a lot of the AMG Line stuff that can be found filling up Mercedes forecourts).

If I was being picky I'd ideally like a slightly more special interior; as with all Merc design, tech filters down from the special stuff into models further down the range over time and that switchgear is more or less identical to a boggo-spec courtesy E-class I had recently. But it's certainly something I could live with. 

The GT’s silhouette hasn't suffered too much by having a roof chop either, the curvy-coupe lines are retained and with the roof down it still looks fantastic. The rear is one of the nicest out there - almost Z8-esque to my eyes.  This example has a mere 7k miles and a spec list as long as your arm including AMG Track Pace, a feature that would surely be rarely used. The car is more suited to a tour down to the south of France, the more long echoey tunnels the better.
SL


Aston Martin V12 Vantage Roadster, 2015, 14k, £77,850

What’s the one main motivating factor when buying a convertible supercar? Sound, correct. You want to hear where all of your money has gone and you want it to make you feel good, in an attempt to justify both the purchase price and a super-unleaded addiction. The second biggest reason to buy a convertible supercar is to look good; let’s not avoid the truth here, people. If we weren’t bothered about we looked in such cars, there surely wouldn’t be a market for them in the first place. Because I don’t care what’s said elsewhere; you don’t buy drop-top exotica to drive hard.

Apropos of both those points, I present to you the best looking and best sounding car of this group: the Aston Martin V12 Vantage Roadster. In fact, probably the best looking and best sounding car in any group you care to assemble, really, given the dizzying heights Aston ascended on both counts. Sure, the V10s make a pleasant enough warble and the AMG will do a good Forza impression of a V8, but come on, with the buying criteria as it is, the Aston is hard to beat.  

I’ll be the first to admit that the old Roadster won’t be the sharpest tool in the box, the decapitation piling on the pounds in structural reinforcement. But, very obvious carbon-tubbed alternative aside, everything here is more than 1,500kg. So the Aston keeps perfectly good company. While a conventional manual would be nice (and any other colour than this even better), it’s impossible to deny the temptation on offer at less than £80k. Because a V12 Vantage Roadster will always be cool. And there isn’t any kind of RRP you can put on that.
MB


McLaren 12C Spider, 2013, 10k, £84,900

I was never a fan of the 12C when it came out in 2011 for one reason: the 458 Italia existed. The first road car to come from McLaren’s then new road division elbowed its way into the establishment with its turbocharged performance, but that generic front-end and muted V8 were nothing on Maranello’s berlinetta. I never dreamt of owning one, and that feeling was affirmed when the subsequent generations, starting with the 650S, each took significant strides forward in terms of character. 

Now, however, I can look back on McLaren’s 600hp opener in a different light. Especially the Spider. Compared to the 458 Spider, its carbon tub makes it much stiffer so there’s no concern for age-related flex in the chassis. And despite the car’s genuinely exotic make-up, 12Cs are cheap. Like really cheap. That’s relatively speaking, of course, but two apparently well-kept 12C Spiders sneak into our £85k budget; by comparison, the cheapest 458 Spider is up for £130k, and it’s done nearly 40,000 miles. Four times more than my pick here.

This is a smartly-specced car, too, with a black on black theme accented by silver wheels and red brake calipers. In a world of evermore garish looking machines, it’s almost discreet. It can’t wail like a 458, nor is it going to be as rewarding to drive quickly on the road - because McLaren unashamedly tuned the 12C for laptimes first and foremost - but nobody can deny the underlying capabilities. In the world of convertible supercars, this is about as fast as things get for under £85k.
SS


Audi R8 GT Spyder, 2012, 15k, £64,995

Don’t hold it against me, but I’ve always been a bit of an Audi fanboy. I quite like the 24 Hours of Le Mans too, so when Audi launched a road car named the Le Man Prototype while they were simultaneously dominating the field at Le Mans, it’s fair to say I was pretty excited.

I vowed to own one before I turn 40; the clock is certainly ticking faster these days but who knows, it could happen. Faced with the quandary of what drop-top supercar to buy, the R8 Spyder was therefore an obvious choice. But just any old bog-spec R8 wouldn’t do; I always try and buy the top of the line variant of any car I buy.

Enter the GT Spyder. Based on the R8 V10, it was unveiled at the 24 Hours of Le Mans race in 2011 (that Audi won), with it’s naturally-aspirated V10 power output increased to 560hp amongst other tweaks. Only 43 made it to the UK, so it’s a pretty rare beast. And while sadly no spectators are able to head to Circuit De La Sarthe this weekend and the PH campsite won’t be there for the first time in a decade, I can optimistically look forward to driving it down there in 2021.
BL


Porsche 911 Turbo (991), 2015, 41k, £84,450

Let’s swerve around the whole is-a-Porsche-911-Turbo-really-a-supercar issue (although if a Mercedes AMG GT qualifies, it most certainly does too) and wallow in the fact that a convertible 991 blower with average miles can be bought for a less than gargantuan sum. I say that because whatever your feelings about Porsche or 911s ragtops in general or even the last generation of Turbo, the car is a verifiable monster. 

Obviously that’s its maker’s intention. Speak to anyone at Porsche and they are unequivocal about the Turbo’s ranking in the 911 lineup - it is always perched on the edge of what is possible while still retaining the capacity to whisk you across a continent in enormous comfort. It is the sort of bandwidth that no other car on this shortlist approaches, even if some surpass it in handling or powertrain fireworks. 

Ultimately of course it’s about what you want from a drop-top supercar. The 991 Turbo is not lithe like a 12C nor as striking as a Gallardo. But there is virtually nothing it will not do. Admittedly black metallic on a triple black leather interior with five-spoke black wheels is not going to be for everyone - but I defy you not to find something about the car which leaves you gobsmacked, post test drive. That’s the 911 Turbo guarantee.
NC


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Discussion

cerb4.5lee

Original Poster:

36,329 posts

193 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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I wouldn't say no to any of those. cool

A very nice list. thumbup

The Gallardo would be my pick of the bunch, because of its lovely gated manual gearbox. smokin The rest only have 2 pedals.

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Edited by cerb4.5lee on Saturday 19th September 08:28

V12GT

488 posts

103 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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None quite float my boat.

Prefer this (new) Virage Volante, which just about qualifies as a supercar
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10768005?c...

but I’d actually spend my theoretical £85k on the older Virages, like this one.
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10343568?c...

If I had to pick one of these six? The Mercedes, as it’s still got the aural drama and is likely to take me to the south of France without being on a tow truck, unlike the Lambo, McLaren or Aston. Porsche and Audi don’t do it for me.

jase_llan

150 posts

70 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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V12GT said:
None quite float my boat.

Prefer this (new) Virage Volante, which just about qualifies as a supercar
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10768005?c...

but I’d actually spend my theoretical £85k on the older Virages, like this one.
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10343568?c...

If I had to pick one of these six? The Mercedes, as it’s still got the aural drama and is likely to take me to the south of France without being on a tow truck, unlike the Lambo, McLaren or Aston. Porsche and Audi don’t do it for me.
Would the Aston or Lambo really let you down though? One is loosely based on the aforementioned Audi, and the other has the V12 which had been around since the turn of the century and is generally pretty solid - plus if it does go wrong, some parts are shared with the 3.0 Ford Duratec.

cerb4.5lee

Original Poster:

36,329 posts

193 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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jase_llan said:
Would the Aston or Lambo really let you down though? One is loosely based on the aforementioned Audi, and the other has the V12 which had been around since the turn of the century and is generally pretty solid - plus if it does go wrong, some parts are shared with the 3.0 Ford Duratec.
One thing is for sure though...the McLaren definitely will! biggrin

I reckon that it would be a safer bet driving a TVR to the South of France instead of the McLaren. hehe

Maldini35

2,913 posts

201 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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V12 Vantage for me.
Preferably not in white though.

cerb4.5lee

Original Poster:

36,329 posts

193 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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Maldini35 said:
V12 Vantage for me.
Preferably not in white though.
If it was the manual version it would be my second choice for sure behind the Lambo. V12 engine and a 3 pedal manual. cloud9

The Hypno-Toad

12,836 posts

218 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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The Lambo for me by a country mile.

But the numbers didn't come in last night so I'll have to wait until Wednesday morning. wink

WojaWabbit

1,135 posts

231 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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I love convertibles. As a general rule though, I think convertible versions of most current cars just look like afterthoughts, if they are also available in coupe form. There are a few exceptions to that rule, like the Boxster, F8, maybe the 600LT.

For this budget I'd have to go for a modern classic, as they tend to wear the chop better. F355 Spyder is an all time great:

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10754954

Pughmacher

426 posts

56 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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cerb4.5lee said:
One thing is for sure though...the McLaren definitely will! biggrin

I reckon that it would be a safer bet driving a TVR to the South of France instead of the McLaren. hehe
Agree! I wouldn’t touch the McClaren! There’s a reason why it’s cheaper than the equivalent Ferrari. Whilst I’m definitely not popping out to buy any in the list (I wish) I think I’d probably go for the.....nah can’t do it. I’d need a roof. I’m not that pretty and I’d get sunburn on my head!

jbforce10

509 posts

188 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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To me the Gallardo Spyder with the roof up looks wrong from almost every angle (at least where the roof is visible).

An F Type convertible would do me just fine. Preferably an AWD Type R.
More power than I'd ever need but subtle enough to go to the shops in.

big_rob_sydney

3,603 posts

207 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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I'm no fan of Porsche, but that would be the car I would choose out of this lot. Why? Because it's reliable, in the born-from-racing kind of way, and I can easily see it taking me to the south of Spain. Not as wafting as my Lexus, but hey, what do you expect?

Plus, the Porsche can fit my kids in the back, and hits almost whatever performance benchmark you might want to try. This is a car that is not only fast, but works in the real world where practicality matters.

Besides which, if we were to truly ditch practicality, we'd say the budget was out the window, because those who can afford the most extreme toy, probably also have a second car, etc.

Chubbyross

4,677 posts

98 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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big_rob_sydney said:
I'm no fan of Porsche, but that would be the car I would choose out of this lot. Why? Because it's reliable, in the born-from-racing kind of way, and I can easily see it taking me to the south of Spain. Not as wafting as my Lexus, but hey, what do you expect?

Plus, the Porsche can fit my kids in the back, and hits almost whatever performance benchmark you might want to try. This is a car that is not only fast, but works in the real world where practicality matters.

Besides which, if we were to truly ditch practicality, we'd say the budget was out the window, because those who can afford the most extreme toy, probably also have a second car, etc.
The Turbo’s waftability is surprisingly good when in the normal setting. Fitting children in the back is tricky though, unless they’re very young. The convertible’s rear seat backs almost slope forward to allow space for the folding roof mechanism. Once my kids passed the age of four it was pretty much game over. That and I couldn’t stand their stickiness anywhere near my P&J!

Glenn63

3,370 posts

97 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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WojaWabbit said:
I love convertibles. As a general rule though, I think convertible versions of most current cars just look like afterthoughts, if they are also available in coupe form. There are a few exceptions to that rule, like the Boxster, F8, maybe the 600LT.

For this budget I'd have to go for a modern classic, as they tend to wear the chop better. F355 Spyder is an all time great:

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10754954
My sunny day car when the numbers come in cloud9

Deathmole

959 posts

58 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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A tough choice there, I genuinely don't know which I'd choose, there's a case to make for all of them IMO. The Audi is probably bottom of the pile because it lacks theatre/drama unlike the Lambo, Merc and Aston (although they still make a cracking noise) but it's still a great car.

Black, white and grey though - boring! jester

Pvapour

8,981 posts

266 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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I tested all of those before buying except the 911 (had driven the lambo and didnt like it many years before)

Ended up with the GTC and ive driven it as much as i can ever since, an incredible machine that feel very old school, if you liked TVRs then you’ll love the GT.

Audi - just didnt feel special in any way
McLaren - to inconvenient for servicing but theatre was on a par with the GT, not as roar / muscle car though.
Aston - felt a better road car but i like track days and the AMG has it licked there
Lambo - just feels so dated in comparison
911 - have never liked them, front suspension has always felt like a pogo stick to me (not been in later ones) and steering wheel or pedal off set (cant remember which) means i never got in another.

Then looks, the AMG wins hands down Against all of them for me so it was a no brainer.

Numeric

1,479 posts

164 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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I went down the route of the fast drop top many years ago, quickly regretted and have never strayed from tin top since somehow the compromises just didn't seem to justify the days when I dropped the roof.

So now I have a nice fast car with a roof - but oddly couldn't resist trying one more time and got a JCW roadster - suddenly it all seemed to come together, I'd paid 12k rather than 5x that amount and I didn't care that it had a few foibles because it isn't that fast or expensive so I don't grumble about it

Also supercar drop tops always seem to be being driven slowly when I see them...

(Aston though - patriotic duty!)

chelme

1,353 posts

183 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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355 and 430 for me.

HyperRetard

16 posts

136 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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Meh.

I'd buy a Miata

TheoGTS

13 posts

105 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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I’d go for the AMG GT every time, but not with those alloy wheels and not in that colour.
Brilliant blue with black multi spoke alloys would be the dream.
The interior is special, it’s one of the best looking cars on the road (especially dare I say - as a coupe) the performance is immense and it has to be one of the best sounding cars ever. AMG have managed to make a Turbo V8 sound as good, nearly, as a normally aspirated large capacity V8 and while the howl of the Lambo, Porsche and R8 are spine chillingly good, the noise emitted from an AMG is intoxicating.
Given the performance, looks, quality, noise, reliability and rarity any AMG GT variant would be my choice, even in this very special company.

jl34

549 posts

250 months

Saturday 19th September 2020
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Missed put the jag F type V8. More entertaining than any of them, a true modern day AC Cobra