RE: Volkswagen Golf R (Mk7) | Spotted
RE: Volkswagen Golf R (Mk7) | Spotted
Thursday 28th January 2021

Volkswagen Golf R (Mk7) | Spotted

After decades at the top, the manual, three-door Golf flagship is no more - here's one of the last



Let's not beat about the bush: the Mk8 VW Golf R is one of the most eagerly anticipated performance cars of 2021. Which certainly couldn't have been said for the Mk7 when it was revealed in 2013. The Mk6 R didn't set the world on fire, being a little stodgy and aloof in typical all-wheel drive Golf fashion - and lacking the rorty charm of the V6-powered R32s.

More of the same was expected from the Mk7, however impressive the GTI appeared to be. Happily, none of the predictions turned out to be true; the Golf R emerging as one of the hot hatch heroes of recent times. No longer was the flagship a leaden drive. Instead it combined moreish performance with a surprisingly neutral handling balance, packaged in high-spec VW loveliness. The R didn't indulge in Focus RS-style horseplay, but it did finally prove - after many years of trying - that all-wheel drive Golfs could be good to drive.

Its big-selling success, plus the addition of more power and Drift Mode this time around, is why there's so much clamour over the new R. But there is one issue right out of the gate: it's only being offered with five doors and a DSG gearbox. Which make eminent sense from a manufacturing perspective, because that was the variant people bought most of last time around, and is therefore the only one VW wants to make. But from the enthusiast standpoint, the kind of person who grew up lusting after various GTIs, GSIs and RS Fords with three doors and three pedals, it seems a bit of a shame. It's the definitive hot hatch template, after all.

Of course, the writing has been on the wall for those traditionally configured hot hatches. The first Leon Cupra R was launched in the early 2000s without ever offering three doors and, infamously, the Clio R.S. 200 arrived in 2013 with rear doors and a dual-clutch as standard equipment.


So what to do, then, for those after the contemporary appeal of a Golf R but the nostalgic pull of three doors and a gearstick? Well, thankfully. with a bit of classified digging, there are a few cars configured that way still to be found. Of the 126 Mk 7 Golf Rs for sale on PH, 110 are the hatchback, and 84 of those are the five-door. With just 24 three-doors to choose from, the majority are still with the DSG auto. Just 11 are manuals. And really, that's 10, unless you're after one with 500hp.

Our Spotted is especially rare as it's a facelifted Mk7.5, which brought revised styling, an updated interior and an extra 10hp - it's one of just two such cars for sale. The first two owners of this one were seemingly very keen on their Golf, the car having recorded more than 50,000 miles despite being first registered in 2018. Making the most of a driver-focused spec, clearly...

An asking price of £22,295 indicates the strength of Golf R residuals, but there is another problem to overcome - this particular one is in Northern Ireland. Which is not tremendously convenient for anyone in England, Scotland or Wales. That other facelifted car is white and does without the snazzy optional wheels, but also has little more than half the mileage - it's available in Hampshire for £23,990.

Furthermore, a lot less can be paid for the Golf R that won't be made again; find an early one and you can pay £15k. Up the budget to £20,000 and some of the last pre-facelift cars with low mileage are out there. It's a fair bet that we'll all start to miss what we can't have when reality hits and the new car arrives - even if it's nothing more exotic than a three-door, manual Golf.


SPECIFICATION | VW GOLF R (MK7.5)

Engine: 1,984cc 4-cyl, turbocharged
Transmission: 6-speed manual, all-wheel drive
Power (hp): 310@5,500-6,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 280@2,000-5,400rpm
MPG: 35.8 (NEDC combined)
CO2: 180g/km
First registered: 2018
Recorded mileage: 53,000
Price new: £36,345 (before options, 2019)
Yours for: £22,295

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GTEYE

Original Poster:

2,341 posts

231 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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That one looks expensive to me.

Especially as it’s in an undesirable spec- ie manual and three door....

Lights the flame....

Kipsrs

626 posts

70 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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Nice car but I really, really struggle with the price of them both new and used, you’re in good used Porsche territory for that money and I know which I’d rather have, the Porsche. . . another one lit!

bobski1

1,981 posts

125 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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Very expensive for what it is however it's the one I'd go for as the 5 door is the criminals car of choice for targeting.

HighwayStar

4,821 posts

165 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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Kipsrs said:
Nice car but I really, really struggle with the price of them both new and used, you’re in good used Porsche territory for that money and I know which I’d rather have, the Porsche. . . another one lit!
Manual and 3 door, it’s what I’d be looking for to go with my 981 CS wink

p4cks

7,293 posts

220 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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We wouldn't have the programme Police Interceptors if it wasn't for these

Baldchap

9,329 posts

113 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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Possibly upset some people here, but having had two (7 GTI PP/ 7.5 R) of them, the Golf 7/7.5 just doesn't make sense as a manual. The ACC, the driving modes, the emergency braking and no doubt other features I have forgotten have all been clearly designed for the DSG and the manual breaks them all.

It's all well and good saying 'I don't use X so the manual is best', but at that point you're probably talking yourself into another car...

For some reason, KESSY wasn't available on three door cars. Odd decision IMO.

fantheman80

2,288 posts

70 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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Kipsrs said:
Nice car but I really, really struggle with the price of them both new and used, you’re in good used Porsche territory for that money and I know which I’d rather have, the Porsche. . . another one lit!
Ok i'll bite....people lookin at a Golf aren't probably looking at a porsche..,,

If I had a thrupney bit for every "for that money id"...comnent .............id have enough for that porsche,,,

Baldchap

9,329 posts

113 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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anonymous said:
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"Visitors from Great Britain are eligible to make purchases under the scheme. Where a purchase is made then the Great Britain visitor is liable to pay the import VAT on the removal of the vehicle to Great Britain.

Where visitors make purchases in Northern Ireland under the scheme, and remove the goods to Great Britain, the seller will collect this import VAT on the full value of the vehicle and account for it as output VAT. They could then zero-rate the sale."

That's confusing to me. Someone clever will be along to explain soon, I'm sure.


anonymous-user

75 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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Anyone got one of those PH bingo cards?

Bezerk

455 posts

180 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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Was it ever found out what happened to all the cheap lease ones from approx. 2014 onwards?
I had a 5 door Manual on a 2015 plate for a 2 year Contract Hire lease for something like £200 a Month.

I did check around 2018 and it was not taxed, now the plate is not on the DVLA database at all.

iphonedyou

10,055 posts

178 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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GTEYE said:
That one looks expensive to me.

Especially as it’s in an undesirable spec- ie manual and three door....

Lights the flame....
Very expensive. Smaller market in Northern Ireland and most people won't travel (certainly at the minute!) for a car and that's reflected in the prices.

Gunso

1,109 posts

271 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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The Clubsport S makes this look cheap!

anonymous-user

75 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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Bezerk said:
Was it ever found out what happened to all the cheap lease ones from approx. 2014 onwards?
I had a 5 door Manual on a 2015 plate for a 2 year Contract Hire lease for something like £200 a Month.

I did check around 2018 and it was not taxed, now the plate is not on the DVLA database at all.
Stolen, crashed and DVLA certificate of destruction for that to happen.

Or private plate/exported

Baldchap

9,329 posts

113 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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sleepera6 said:
Bezerk said:
Was it ever found out what happened to all the cheap lease ones from approx. 2014 onwards?
I had a 5 door Manual on a 2015 plate for a 2 year Contract Hire lease for something like £200 a Month.

I did check around 2018 and it was not taxed, now the plate is not on the DVLA database at all.
Stolen, crashed and DVLA certificate of destruction for that to happen.

Or private plate/exported
I'm sure someone on here worked for one of the lease/finance companies (I forget which) and said there were oodles of ex-lease/finance cars that had returned and were, rather strangely, just parked up (abandoned?) rather than moved on. Seems odd, but would explain why there isn't one on every corner.

smilo996

3,525 posts

191 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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Odd how people think the ID.3 looks boring.....

hotrod30

75 posts

199 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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Good article.

I’ve always bought 3-door performance Golfs, as I love the clean lines and classic hot hatch stance.

I own a 3-door, 7.5, manual in Lapis Blue and I love it. I tried a dsg before purchase and it was a weapon... but I felt a little detached... a little too point and squirt. 5-doors were never an option as it just looked like a family car (cue hate).

Had it nearly 4 years and I couldn’t be happier.

Disappointed there’s no 3-door or manual Golf R going forward... when I come to change it will probably be a coupé now.
Shame as I’m really keen on the classless Golf image. Any suggestions guys?

Have a good day.
Steve


Type R Tom

4,192 posts

170 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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They have kept there value quite well, I've been keeping my eyes on the estate and hope the new model knocks the prices down a bit. Still torn between this and a 335 touring.

MrBarry123

6,081 posts

142 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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Kipsrs said:
Nice car but I really, really struggle with the price of them both new and used, you’re in good used Porsche territory for that money and I know which I’d rather have, the Porsche. . . another one lit!
laugh

rolleyes

jonwilli79

5 posts

135 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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Type R Tom said:
They have kept there value quite well, I've been keeping my eyes on the estate and hope the new model knocks the prices down a bit. Still torn between this and a 335 touring.
My partner and I had a similar decision. Test drove a 5 door DSG Golf R, liked it but VW would not budge on price and offered an insulting px for our Mini Cooper S. Overall VW Inchcape experience was not good. Ended up buying an F31 335i Touring with zf 8 speed. The BMW was £1k cheaper, younger and 25k miles on the clock rather than 50k miles on the R.

We are very happy with the decision, the Touring fits better with our other cars (modded 130i and modded E82 135i) . The BMW is as quick as the Golf R in a straight line, more comfortable on longer journeys, more space, but not as fun as the Golf in the bends with the shorter wheelbase and stiffer suspension. I probably prefer the feeling of RWD in the BMW but am a BMW fanboy!!

Compared to the 130i and 135i which both have M3 HPAS, LSDs and upgraded suspension the Golf felt much more detached in all circumstances but still pretty good fun especially with the exhaust sound in sport (even if fake).

cerb4.5lee

40,459 posts

201 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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I'm definitely one of those people who can appreciate/prefers a 3 door with 3 pedals. Most want a 5 door and 2 pedals though now for sure. Back in my day 3 doors/3 pedals mean't fun(205 GTi/Renault 5 GT Turbo etc), whereas 5 doors/2 pedals mean't grown up/a cruising type of car. Times have definitely changed.