RE: Pinch-me Honda Integra Type R for sale

RE: Pinch-me Honda Integra Type R for sale

Tuesday 13th April 2021

Pinch-me Honda Integra Type R for sale

Low-mile, well-kept, UK-supplied DC2s are like gold dust. PH supplies the Midas touch



It's not like there hasn't been plenty of front-drive performance cars to get excited about in the last twenty years. Yet despite fabulous entrants from Renaultsport, Peugeot and Ford (to name a few) the DC2 Integra Type R stands tall. If you've driven one, you'll know. If you haven't, then imagine what an atmospheric 190hp, 7,900rpm 1.8-litre VTEC is like when its attached to a 1.1-tonne, limited-slip diff chassis steered hydraulically and tuned by God.

Forget what seems like middling output. Honda toiled to hand-extract the power from its indestructible four-pot, and its efforts are admirable to this day. It's 8hp more than Dieppe managed in the larger capacity and heavier-engined Clio 182 Trophy, and its inherent lightness means the Integra feels poised and even-footed. Crucially, it feels like a sports car - which is a neat trick for something powering the wrong axle.

To say it corners well is like saying Messi strikes a ball okay or that Ronnie O'Sullivan is decent at frame building. For what it is, it is dreamily good. Apply any descriptive you like. Communicative? Like a neon sign. Adjustable? Like silly putty. Fun? It makes even a car as prodigiously able as the FK8 Civic Type R - which is obviously considerably quicker - seem pound-cake stodgy. Sure, 6.7-sec to 62mph and 145mph is nothing to write home about - but in the right hands the numbers could hardly be less important. It's like asking how fast Rudolf Nureyev runs.



The DC2's cohesive setup and fluid handling was the front-drive benchmark in the nineties, and while it wouldn't see which way a present day hot hatch had gone, rest assured that its purity is unmatched. Nothing built by a mainstream manufacturer in 2021 can weigh so little or be so naturally nimble when saddled with modern safety equipment. Nor can anyone - not even Honda - replicate that VTEC wail when turbochargers and particulate filters are added.

It makes for a unique prospect. And a rare one in good nick. Hence the appreciation in prices. Niche appeal meant the used prices for the DC2 plummeted below £5,000 not so long ago. But changes in the wider world and the car's stellar reputation among the few means that modern classic status is now assured. The pictured car is a perfect example. It's a 60k-mile V-reg advertised for £13,995, which goes £995 beyond our maximum estimate when Matt drove a Honda UK heritage DC2 for our hero piece in 2017. It's also £5k more than the other listed DC2.

But this car has averaged fewer than 3,000 miles a year. And the results of that are plain to see; Recaro Trendlines in fine shape, apparently near-spotless black paintwork and 15-inch wheels you could eat your pub garden dinner off. The first of just two owners had this car from new to 2019, which suggests they were rather fond of it. The servicing history and included supply of paperwork backs that thought up. So while it's right up there at the top of DC2 'teg money, it's probably the best example we've seen in ages. And if you're the preserve-for-posterity type, arguably cheap at twice the price.


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Maccmike8

Original Poster:

1,043 posts

55 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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The 1 car I deeply regret not buying.

skylarking808

811 posts

87 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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Japanese 90's goodness right there.


cerb4.5lee

30,953 posts

181 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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I feel like I've really missed out with not getting an opportunity to have a go in one of these. driving

It is one of very few cars that you never hear a bad word spoken about them.

abzmike

8,513 posts

107 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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A mate of mine had one of these - God it was quick. Goodness knows how he's still alive.

itz_baseline

821 posts

222 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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Loved mine when I had it. I stuck 40,000 miles on it over 4 years (from 60k to 100k) and did about 10 track days in it with 0 problems. Flew through every mot. I bought it for £5k and sold it for £5k. Thought I was a shrewd wheeler dealer for sticking 40,000 miles on it and breaking even come sale time.

Jokes on me, I should have kept it in the garage. Hardly worth selling for £5k when I look back on it now.

Here’s a picture of it with my Clio v6 at the time (which I also stupidly sold after a number of years to break even and have subsequently sky rocketed). Another joke on me.



Edited by itz_baseline on Tuesday 13th April 18:28

g4ry13

17,126 posts

256 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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Needs to be in white.

pixelmix

203 posts

109 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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g4ry13 said:
Needs to be in white.
Agreed. Some cars just work better in certain colours, and for me, this is always a white car. itz_baseline‘s shows how much better white looks.

To be fair black doesn’t always photograph well so maybe it looks great in the flesh.

Leon R

3,234 posts

97 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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itz_baseline said:
Loved mine when I had it. I stuck 40,000 miles on it over 4 years (from 60k to 100k) and did about 10 track days in it with 0 problems. Flew through every mot. I bought it for £5k and sold it for £5k. Thought I was a shrewd wheeler dealer for sticking 40,000 miles on it and breaking even come sale time.

Jokes on me, I should have kept it in the garage. Hardly worth selling for £5k when I look back on it now.

Here’s a picture of it with my Clio v6 at the time (which I also stupidly sold after a number of years to break even and have subsequently sky rocketed). Another joke on me.



Edited by itz_baseline on Tuesday 13th April 18:28
What have you got now? I'm looking for an investment opportunity.

itz_baseline

821 posts

222 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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Leon R said:
What have you got now? I'm looking for an investment opportunity.
Had all kind of things, Lexus LS400 was a good laugh and gained me a bit of money, but I’m seriously looking at an Alfa 4C to keep for a few years. Can’t see them losing anything and maybe even gaining a bit.

Edited to add, I also have a C63 AMG estate at the moment. One of the older 6.2 N/A cars as its obvious that kind of engine is never going to be made again, therefore will start commanding a premium over the bi-turbos medium term.

I always try and buy a car that I believe will depreciate as little as possible, but most importantly buy a car you really want as if it doesn’t hold it’s value it really doesn’t matter.

Edited by itz_baseline on Tuesday 13th April 18:54

rossub

4,507 posts

191 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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Leon R said:
What have you got now? I'm looking for an investment opportunity.
hehe

Titan2

150 posts

97 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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That is a giveaway price for £13,995 if you look at how much they are being sold for in
their homeland.

You would probably struggle to find one with that mileage for anything less than mid-high €20k's.

The Rotrex Kid

30,422 posts

161 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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Seems like a good shout at £14k (!) and likely to carry on going up.

Nearly bought a slight rough one about 10 years ago for £1800 rofl needed new arches and I had a 200SX at the time which I thought was a vastly superior car rofl (at the time!)

Esceptico

7,589 posts

110 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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Thought about buying one new in 1999 but went with an Impreza instead. As we were in Switzerland the latter’s AWD was very useful - with winter tyres never needed snow chains to get to the ski slopes. However have always hankered after one but can’t seem me having one now. Would have to be white with red seats though if I did.

croissant

1,262 posts

139 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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The Rotrex Kid said:
Seems like a good shout at £14k (!) and likely to carry on going up.

Nearly bought a slight rough one about 10 years ago for £1800 rofl needed new arches and I had a 200SX at the time which I thought was a vastly superior car rofl (at the time!)
It was about 10yrs ago when I had a dc2 just like the one here alongside a 200sx s14a. Both were excellent but if I could have one of them back it would be the Nissan all day long. It was mildly tuned but felt brutally fast. The integra was also great, but (controversially) didn’t feel as special as a well sorted 200sx

The Rotrex Kid

30,422 posts

161 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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croissant said:
The Rotrex Kid said:
Seems like a good shout at £14k (!) and likely to carry on going up.

Nearly bought a slight rough one about 10 years ago for £1800 rofl needed new arches and I had a 200SX at the time which I thought was a vastly superior car rofl (at the time!)
It was about 10yrs ago when I had a dc2 just like the one here alongside a 200sx s14a. Both were excellent but if I could have one of them back it would be the Nissan all day long. It was mildly tuned but felt brutally fast. The integra was also great, but (controversially) didn’t feel as special as a well sorted 200sx
I concur. I had an S14a in Kuro black with cream leather, loads of mods and 300bhp, felt like an absolute monster at the time. I’d argue the DC2 has a better driving feel, but by gosh, I wish I still had that S14a cloud9

dunnoreally

983 posts

109 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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Lovely thing, but I feel like the point of cars like this is to have a cracking time ragging their nuts off then move onto the next cheap bit of good fun. Buying one to keep the mileage low is the exact opposite of what I'd want with one of these.

I hope someday interesting coupes will be as widely available again as they were in this thing's heyday.

TameRacingDriver

18,117 posts

273 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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cerb4.5lee said:
I feel like I've really missed out with not getting an opportunity to have a go in one of these. driving

It is one of very few cars that you never hear a bad word spoken about them.
They really are as good as people say. Everything about them is either very good or excellent.

- Great seats and driving position
- Light for its size; 1100kg for a car the size of an E36 3 series
- Marvellous, howling engine that sung all the way to near 9,000 rpm
- Wonderful mechanical box, one of the best I've used, and the gearing was perfect to keep on the boil
- Rapid acceleration, even by todays standards; felt like it was hurling you towards the horizon once on cam
- Stable, unflappable handling that did exactly what you wanted. Grip, slide, it does it all
- Powerful, fade resistant brakes

FWD or not, it was a proper drivers car...

That being said, I prefer a bit of midrange meat in my cars these days, probably partially age, but also better for road use. The teg would have been a great track car, and it was still a very good road car, but it was the sort of car that just begged you to go faster all the time and the engine preferred to be worked hard, and as a result, it was difficult to keep on the right side of the law laugh

cerb4.5lee

30,953 posts

181 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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The Rotrex Kid said:
croissant said:
The Rotrex Kid said:
Seems like a good shout at £14k (!) and likely to carry on going up.

Nearly bought a slight rough one about 10 years ago for £1800 rofl needed new arches and I had a 200SX at the time which I thought was a vastly superior car rofl (at the time!)
It was about 10yrs ago when I had a dc2 just like the one here alongside a 200sx s14a. Both were excellent but if I could have one of them back it would be the Nissan all day long. It was mildly tuned but felt brutally fast. The integra was also great, but (controversially) didn’t feel as special as a well sorted 200sx
I concur. I had an S14a in Kuro black with cream leather, loads of mods and 300bhp, felt like an absolute monster at the time. I’d argue the DC2 has a better driving feel, but by gosh, I wish I still had that S14a cloud9
Another massive fan of the S14a 200SX here as well. I absolutely loved mine big time thumbup

bencollins4

1,104 posts

207 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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I bought a 1 owner 54,000 mile car 3 years ago for about £8k. A fantastic car and as usual for me, sold far too soon, but a perfect Elise turned up that I had to have.

A car which felt great driving normally, absolutely sensational when pushed hard. What an engine, what a chassis!

Edited by bencollins4 on Wednesday 14th April 08:16

Gary C

12,564 posts

180 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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Leon R said:
What have you got now? I'm looking for an investment opportunity.
Need to ask him what he just sold rather!