RE: Jaguar XFR | The Brave Pill

RE: Jaguar XFR | The Brave Pill

Saturday 10th July 2021

Jaguar XFR | The Brave Pill

Big, brawny, brainy - and a bargain



Create a list of American presidents in order of manliness and Theodore 'Teddy' Roosevelt will always feature close to the top. After commanding a cavalry regiment in the Spanish-American war he became the youngest ever president aged just 42 when his predecessor was assassinated. After he was voted out of office he opted to lead a two-year expedition to the Amazon rather than enjoy a gentle retirement. In short, he was as buff as a well polished drill instructor painted beige.

But beyond inspiring the creation of the eponymous toy bear and founding the U.S.'s national park movement, Teddy's greatest contribution to posterity was his most frequently quoted line: "speak softly and carry a big stick and you will go far."

Bringing us, with the crunch of unsynchronized gears, to this week's Brave Pill - the automotive exemplar of T.R.'s philosophy. Because there are no other cars that talk as gently as the Jaguar XFR while carrying a lead-filled knobkerrie. This is a 507hp super saloon that even petrolheads struggle to distinguish from its diesel sisters at more than ten paces, certainly without the being able to hear its fruity exhaust note.


The understated image was deliberate. There was no shortage of loud, flashy super saloons to choose between in the late noughties, most of which were German and clearly aimed at those who prioritized performance over subtlety. Jaguar took a different approach with the XF, creating a car to appeal to those who didn't want to shout. First came the SV8, which combined the S-Type R's a 4.2-litre 400hp supercharged V8 with chassis settings barely changed from the regular XF. It almost vertically laid back and, although fast and effortless, wasn't really a true rival to a BMW M5 or Audi RS6.

The XFR arrived in 2009 and was a much more serious piece of work. Firstly because it got the brawny new 5.0-litre version of the long-lived supercharged V8, this taking peak output into the 5s and putting it far closer to the Germans on raw performance. Secondly because the chassis had been carefully reworked by a team led by Mike Cross, Jaguar's handling guru, to create a far more athletic dynamic experience. It got stiffer springs, active shocks and was the first Jag to use a smart electronically controlled rear differential.

But the suit wrapped around the R was still a modestly tailored one. Visual distinction over a higher-spec civilian grade XF was limited to a slightly toothier front bumper, new 20-inch alloys and some very subtle badging: an R on the back and the legend 'Supercharged' on both the bonnet's trim strakes and the alloy rims. Would you really be able to pull this one out of a line-up of well-specced 2.7Ds?


You'd barely see the XFR coming, but you'll certainly notice the manner of its departure if its driver is keen to get gone. It was properly fast: Jaguar quoted a 4.7-second 0-62mph time, and a top speed that was almost cruelly constrained by a 155mph limiter. During a magazine photoshoot at Bruntingthorpe with a fresh press car I encountered this electronic choke chain earlier and more often than in any of the pack of rivals it was sharing the two-mile runway with. Equally impressive was the driftability and over the limit discipline that the clever new diff had brought with it.

But it was on real roads that the XFR really shone, proving barely less civilized than its softer siblings. The R's cabin was classy and understated, with Jag-appropriate wood and leather instead of being one of the gloomy carbon and Alcantara crypts that were increasingly common in the segment at the time.

The adaptive dampers also seemed able to cope remarkably well with almost any surface, and were especially well suited to cruising at serious speeds. Beyond the range limitations caused by the combination of low-20s MPG, a smallish petrol tank and an over-cautious fuel light it was close to unbeatable as an inconspicuous country-crosser.


Unfortunately Jaguar's faith in the untapped desire for taste and discretion in this part of the market proved to be largely misplaced. The XFR's low key approach didn't translate to sales success, and the company was soon forced to increase the XF's visual muscle. The first revision was an optional Speed Pack which came at the same time as the 2011 facelift, increasing the limiter to 174mph and bringing a bigger front splitter and new rear wing. The much more aggressive XF-RS was launched the following year, this trading the R's understatement for a vast tailgate-hung tray and black trim in place of chrome brightwork.

The R continued as an understudy to the RS all the way to the X250 XF's retirement in 2015, and although sales slowed towards the end it has always had a loyal following. The fact Jaguar never replaced it directly, with the second-gen X260 XF doing without a V8 option, denied owners the chance to move onto a more modern equivalent.

Our Pill is a pre-facelift 2010 example that appears to have been both well used and well loved. It has covered an unscary 109,000 miles, pretty much bang on 10,000 a year, and is being sold by a dealer who is promising a full Jaguar service history. It is finished in a very stealthy shade of black and seems to also have been given an options workout including the rather excellent Bowers & Wilkins audio upgrade, DAB radio and a reversing camera. The MOT history is mostly green, with the only recent defects being non-functioning rear lights, quickly fixed; the XF's electronic architecture is known to sometimes throw up issues.


Beyond these, and the need to keep it in 98-RON, a well-chosen XFR should not be crazily expensive to run. The 5.0-litre engine is generally reckoned to be much tougher than the V6 diesels, although Jaguar's claim that the transmission is sealed for life should be taken with a pinch of snuff, and a generous dose of fresh oil every 60,000 miles. The supercharger is meant to have a belt replacement after 100,000 miles, so worth checking that's been done.

Given the febrile state of much of the used car market early XFRs are looking like increasingly good value, especially leggy early examples. Prices are still falling, although gently, and our Pill's £11,895 represents stonking value for so much performance; dealers are still asking more than double for lower mileage facelifted versions. This one has gone reasonably far, but both the big stick and the soft voice look to be very much in order.


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Simon Lee 100

Original Poster:

18 posts

110 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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This really is a classic Q car. Very understated and great value for money when compared to the German rivals. And they sound fabulous.

cerb4.5lee

31,134 posts

182 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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I've always wanted one of these purely for the engine. cloud9




breezer42

136 posts

153 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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I’ve got one of these and I really don’t know what I’d replace it with. It’s truly unique - a car with two completely distinct characters: relatively frugal luxury cruiser and downright offensive punch-in-the-face performance when you want it.

Alfa - faster but too shouty.
Bentley - feels its weight much more than the Jag.
German - yawn, bland interiors and fussy, over designed showy exteriors.

The only electrical ‘glitch’ I’ve faced was a dead parking sensor - which inexplicably temporarily disables the whole (front and rear!) system until you replace the single broken sensor. Weird. There’s still a reversing camera though.

One thing to be aware of is that on early models the valve chain guides wear, and will likely need replacing. Not cheap, but some will have been replaced with the later (>2011) upgrades and some will not…

Otherwise it is a massive hulk of a car that can cruise comfortably and happily all day long, all year round, but which belies its size and weight in the most impressive way when one wants to hustle along. Nothing combines the comfort and beautiful interior with that pace and alertness.

I take exception to the fuel use comments - again, the car has two completely distinct characters. I took a trip to the Peak District recently and on the 80mph (at cruise control speed) motorway up and the 50mph main roads where I couldn’t overtake I averaged 32mpg. Once I got to the fun a roads I quickly brought it down below 20mpg though. What kills the economy is loss of momentum given the weight. See what I mean? It’s 2 cars in 1 package.

Also, the engine can take well over 600bhp so one could, when the supercharger is being serviced, reduce the snout pulley by 5-7% without making any additional changes to the car. In theory this would improve low end pickup and maybe take the power into the 520bhp range for a couple of hundred pounds.

Mouse Rat

1,831 posts

94 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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For me the Daddy of the super saloons. Closely followed by the quattroporte and Gulia quadrifungi thing.
But the appeal is the engineering behind the xf making it great on the road and a hooligan on track with relatively reasonable running costs.


jamieduff1981

8,030 posts

142 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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Not that brave a brave pill really. With the possible exception of Adaptive Dampers which are a curse on all modern big cars come replacement time and will likely cause numerous premature scrappings due to their obscene cost, these cars are pretty cheap to run.

The engine doesn't need 98RON. It runs absolutely fine with no I'll effects long term on 95RON.

No big engine is going to be cheap on fuel if you live in a densely crowded area but on a steady cruise these are fairly economical. Admittedly I had the later 8 speed gearbox in my R-S, but it easily managed 36mpg average on a long run with the cruise control set to 70mph.

J4CKO

41,826 posts

202 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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Surely has to be a future classic/

s m

23,318 posts

205 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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J4CKO said:
Surely has to be a future classic/
Everything’s a future classic Jacko!

HazzaT

485 posts

47 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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The want is very strong! My girlfriend's family have an XF-S of a similar age and the way the thing gets down the road with such good ride quality is extremely impressive. Almost feels more like an aeroplane than a car.

Will definitely be looking at these very closely when I move on from my car

Maccmike8

1,056 posts

56 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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This isnt a brave pill.

J4CKO

41,826 posts

202 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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s m said:
J4CKO said:
Surely has to be a future classic/
Everything’s a future classic Jacko!
Hmm, maybe but meant a desirable one.

legless

1,707 posts

142 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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I've driven this exact car.

It started out life as my boss's company car when I worked for JLR. I seem to remember it making extremely light work of dawdlers on the Fosse Way.

apm142001

277 posts

91 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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Like this a lot, Pill making up for Shed losing his marbles this week.

The first from this column that’s actually making me consider whether buying is a feasible option.

TheAngryDog

12,421 posts

211 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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I really like these. I like the understated looks, but also something to add to as well.

Having had an E55 AMG with the supercharged engine before this seemed like a natural successor to carry the baton.

I've considered replacing my E60 M5 with one a few times, but the V10 is difficult to get over.

Good car this.

callahan

890 posts

208 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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HazzaT said:
The want is very strong! My girlfriend's family have an XF-S of a similar age and the way the thing gets down the road with such good ride quality is extremely impressive. Almost feels more like an aeroplane than a car.

Will definitely be looking at these very closely when I move on from my car
I quite like the idea of the XF-S (or even the XE-S) as I do like a supercharged 6 cylinder.

Has anyone driven the v6 v the v8? Stats-wise they're quite close, although the 8 does sound epic.

I had an x300 XJR for a short while ages ago and absolutely loved it, Jag has a great history of supercharged 6 cylinder engines.

Ben-7w5hq

3 posts

38 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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'It almost vertically laid back'
Try 'It's almost horizontally laid back'.

Colin-t4n2y

26 posts

77 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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callahan said:
I quite like the idea of the XF-S (or even the XE-S) as I do like a supercharged 6 cylinder.

Has anyone driven the v6 v the v8? Stats-wise they're quite close, although the 8 does sound epic.

I had an x300 XJR for a short while ages ago and absolutely loved it, Jag has a great history of supercharged 6 cylinder engines.
I had a 2010 XF-S V8, which I chose in preference to the XF-R due to being cheaper to buy, cheaper to run, better ride/handling setup, and still with epic performance and V8 soundtrack when properly hustled. I kept the XF-S for 6 years and 90,000 miles, the only issues I had was a failed water pump at 80,000 miles, and the usual Jaguar air-con condenser failure at about the same mileage. All things considered, it was an even better car than the Quattroporte I had prior to the XF-S. The XF-S easily managed low to mid 30's fuel consumption when touring in Europe, where the Quattroporte averaged around high teens on a trip to Italy and back. Having said that the Quattroporte's briar wood and cream leather interior was unbeatable, even by Bentley. I sold the XF-S 18 months ago and still miss it every day.....

sean ie3

2,106 posts

138 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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There is a large jump in cost of these post LCI. These are a bargain. smile

ChrisCh86

872 posts

46 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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Always wanted one of these. Brilliant engine and great looking Q-car that most would people would ignore.

The bargainous prices would make me look past the dated interior. If only I could get this past the wife...

smilo996

2,838 posts

172 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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Step up from the old 4.0L XJR. Cannot really see why you would need to be brave to buy this. Definite Q car and with the new rear also looks excellent. Slow, fast, supple or brutal and decent interior. Even sported a number of up gunned versions and the decent looking sport brake.

Edited by smilo996 on Saturday 10th July 14:25

s m

23,318 posts

205 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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J4CKO said:
Hmm, maybe but meant a desirable one.
I think I’d rather have your ST

Looks a good motorway 3rd lane cruiser though