RE: One-of-88 Aston Martin V12 Speedster for sale

RE: One-of-88 Aston Martin V12 Speedster for sale

Thursday 4th May 2023

One-of-88 Aston Martin V12 Speedster for sale

The speedster craze was short lived, but it did deliver one of the most dramatic Astons of recent memory


The speedster looked set to be making a proper comeback a few years ago. With ‘ordinary’ supercars adopting the sort of wild designs that would typically be reserved for their multi-million-pound counterparts (recently seen with the Sian-inspired Lamborghini Revuelto), it was becoming harder for ultra-wealthy car collectors to stand out from the crowd. Enter: the speedster.

Of course, the speedster has been around for yonks and it’s a design that, at the very least, has been kept alive by Porsche with its roofless GT3. Ferrari, however, created an appetite for the style among the oil barons of the world with the gorgeous SP1 and SP2 Monzas, which was swiftly followed by the clever – if somewhat samey – McLaren Elva a year later. Then, in 2020, Aston Martin joined the fray with the magnificent V12 Speedster, blessing our eyes in the process.

The V12 Speedster was significant for a number of reasons. Firstly, this was the first time twelve-cylinder power would grace the marque’s new Vantage platform. Specifically, the 5.2-litre twin-turbo V12 plucked from the DBS Superleggera in full 700hp, 555lb ft of torque guise. Frankly, that sounds utterly lethal when paired with the shorter, lighter Speedster. But when Mike drove one at the car’s launch, he noted that the V12 Speedster “has a much more laid-back power delivery than the rest of the company's sports car range.” That’s partly down to the Speedster featuring a more relaxed chassis setup, and partly due to a retune of the V12 – the same engine ex-CEO Tobias Moers labelled near-undriveable when he first experienced it.

Then, there’s the way it looks. Compared to the timeless Henry Fisker-designed Vantage, the new model was complicated, inelegant and brash. Aston has since tried to sort that out with a reworked front end, but the V12 Speedster was a sign that the company hadn’t completely lost its way. Aston said the design was inspired by the DBR1, which is more obvious in the spec we have here (and if you wear glasses covered in Vaseline), but there’s a functional elegance to the V12 Speedster that was a welcome return to form for the brand. From the split cockpit to the two small glass covers behind the front seats, this is Aston Martin at its finest.

Ultimately, the Speedster would serve as a precursor to the new V12 Vantage. Yes, it’s a shame that some of the Speedster’s superior style didn’t carry over, but the plus side is that the V12 Vantage isn’t restrained by a production cap. Just 88 examples of the V12 Speedster were produced, each costing a little over three-quarters of a million quid. Expensive by Vantage standards, yet half the cost of the McLaren Elva which, let’s not forget, had a production run nearly twice that of the Aston’s.

So, onto the car we have here. It goes hard on the DBR1 inspiration, carrying the same Racing Green paint with yellow highlights around the grille, down the flanks and on the separator between the two seats. The interior matches the exterior, with Forest Green seats and dashes of brown leather being the only colour in a sea of carbon fibre goodness. It’s expensive, of course. This one is priced at £949,950, so it’s gone up some 25% over the past year and a bit. Hard to think of a new-ish, million-pound car that has the same level of presence as this, however. I know where my money would go...


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ChevronB19

Original Poster:

7,333 posts

176 months

Thursday 4th May 2023
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That is simply revolting, and an insult for them to compare it to the DBR1.

Doofus

30,042 posts

186 months

Thursday 4th May 2023
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So is the infotainemnt unusable because of the cockpit bar?

And I don't keep up with AM, but I thought their V12 was a six litre?

Motormouth88

524 posts

73 months

Thursday 4th May 2023
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Usually a big fan of AM designs but as mentioned…revolving

pti

1,781 posts

157 months

Thursday 4th May 2023
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Motormouth88 said:
Usually a big fan of AM designs but as mentioned…revolving
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S600BSB

6,398 posts

119 months

Thursday 4th May 2023
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Just awful.

Nish Gnackers

1,173 posts

54 months

Thursday 4th May 2023
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Doofus said:
So is the infotainemnt unusable because of the cockpit bar?

And I don't keep up with AM, but I thought their V12 was a six litre?


Says 5.2 if you look closely ...

Quickmoose

4,928 posts

136 months

Thursday 4th May 2023
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yeah there's some lovely 'craft' going on here, but the end result does not gel well at all sadly...

wpa1975

11,543 posts

127 months

Thursday 4th May 2023
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Just looks wrong as a speedster, belt line is too high.


Doofus

30,042 posts

186 months

Thursday 4th May 2023
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Nish Gnackers said:
Doofus said:
So is the infotainemnt unusable because of the cockpit bar?

And I don't keep up with AM, but I thought their V12 was a six litre?


Says 5.2 if you look closely ...
rolleyes

Yes. I know. That was my point.

TheMilkyBarKid

703 posts

42 months

Thursday 4th May 2023
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Unfortunately I’m another that thinks these just don’t look good, subjectively of course. Whether it’s the grumpy carp grille, or the contrived central spar, the humps behind the seats not being body coloured, the high waistline, some of the clumsy details, or a combination of all those things, it just doesn’t hang together to my eyes. It may just be me but seeing the phrase ‘jewellery pack’ in the spec notes for any Aston also makes my teeth itch! grumpy

It’s also a shame - though understandable in this corner of the market - that such a great engine has had so little use. I’ve run more miles since January than this car has been driven in 2 years, though that’s often the way with collectors pieces like this of course.

Muzzer79

11,743 posts

200 months

Thursday 4th May 2023
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A million quid for what is basically a boggo Vantage V12 in a posh frock?

No thanks.

rejn

2,002 posts

235 months

Thursday 4th May 2023
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Doofus said:
Nish Gnackers said:
Doofus said:
So is the infotainemnt unusable because of the cockpit bar?

And I don't keep up with AM, but I thought their V12 was a six litre?


Says 5.2 if you look closely ...
rolleyes

Yes. I know. That was my point.
The naturally aspirated AM V12 was 6.0 litre - from DB7 Vantage on it stayed at 6.0 litres (and got more powerful). But that engine was replaced by this twin turbo V12 which is 5.2 litre. I know Mercedes were involved in the Aston V8 (i.e. the 4 litre V8 in a Vantage is pretty similar if not the same as an AMG V8) - but i don't know if they had a hand in the V12 also.

Doofus

30,042 posts

186 months

Thursday 4th May 2023
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rejn said:
The naturally aspirated AM V12 was 6.0 litre - from DB7 Vantage on it stayed at 6.0 litres (and got more powerful). But that engine was replaced by this twin turbo V12 which is 5.2 litre. I know Mercedes were involved in the Aston V8 (i.e. the 4 litre V8 in a Vantage is pretty similar if not the same as an AMG V8) - but i don't know if they had a hand in the V12 also.
Thank you. As I said, I wasn't aware they'd changed from 6 litres.

wpa1975

11,543 posts

127 months

Thursday 4th May 2023
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rejn said:
Doofus said:
Nish Gnackers said:
Doofus said:
So is the infotainemnt unusable because of the cockpit bar?

And I don't keep up with AM, but I thought their V12 was a six litre?


Says 5.2 if you look closely ...
rolleyes

Yes. I know. That was my point.
The naturally aspirated AM V12 was 6.0 litre - from DB7 Vantage on it stayed at 6.0 litres (and got more powerful). But that engine was replaced by this twin turbo V12 which is 5.2 litre. I know Mercedes were involved in the Aston V8 (i.e. the 4 litre V8 in a Vantage is pretty similar if not the same as an AMG V8) - but i don't know if they had a hand in the V12 also.
Nope the V12 is Aston's own engine, the V8 is a Mercedes M177 plus Mercedes also supplied a lot of the electronics.

bigweb

829 posts

241 months

Thursday 4th May 2023
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Just to give some balance to the negative comments, I saw one of these last month in Monaco and thought it was possibly the best car I had ever seen in real life.

The detail on it was fantastic.

Maybe it hit differently when it's parked somewhere like that rather than a picture in a showroom in the UK

Gecko1978

11,124 posts

170 months

Thursday 4th May 2023
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Its definitely a Monaco, Dubai, Riyadh, Los Angeles, Bahrain type of car. Cold wet London, New York, Paris it would look stupid and high humidity Singapore or Tokyo would be indrivable. As automotive art sure as a car to drive no thanks

athol

329 posts

223 months

Thursday 4th May 2023
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That cockpit bar with the rear view mirror on it looks like it could prove interesting in a side impact. I'd take a Monza SP2 over this all day long.

Trap

173 posts

198 months

Thursday 4th May 2023
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Blessed our eyes? I like Astons but this was almost as ugly as the Cygnet.

Water Fairy

6,058 posts

168 months

Thursday 4th May 2023
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athol said:
That cockpit bar with the rear view mirror on it looks like it could prove interesting in a side impact. I'd take a Monza SP2 over this all day long.
Beat me toit. This all day long. Passenger/driver are just gonna twot their swedes on the thing!

Lovey1

503 posts

194 months

Thursday 4th May 2023
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Trap said:
Blessed our eyes? I like Astons but this was almost as ugly as the Cygnet.
That's harsh......the Cygnet is not this ugly