RE: Washing can be bad for tyres

RE: Washing can be bad for tyres

Thursday 18th January 2007

Washing can be bad for tyres

Safety at risk, says tyre industry body


Not too much pressure...
Not too much pressure...
High pressure washers can damage your tyre sidewalls and damage your safety, according to new research by tyre industry.

Hand car wash teams have mushroomed dramatically in the UK in the past few years. Estimates suggest that there are between 5,000 to 10,000 teams offering this service. However, TyreSafe – formerly the Tyre Industry Council, the UK’s leading tyre safety organisation – has issued a warning of a potential safety risk involving the equipment used by these groups that could lead to potential tyre failure.

The organisation said that there's growing evidence that pressure washers used by hand car wash providers can cause tyre damage unknown to most motorists, and that they could be putting their own lives and that of their passengers and other road users at risk.

Heavy-duty pressure washer machines are capable of dispensing water at extremely high pressure and if aimed directly at the tyre, the jet can cause sidewall damage and degradation particularly if the water is heated or if the pressurised water is applied for an extended period.

According to a recent survey by TyreSafe, it was revealed that over 80 per cent of drivers were unaware of the impact that pressure washing can have on their tyres and the danger posed.

German safety group DEKRA has discovered that if a washer nozzle is held close to a tyre at very high pressure, serious damage can occur in as little as five seconds. Even tyres that appear normal after being subjected to a pressure washer may have microscopic perforations, which can weaken the sidewall and cause a possible blow-out.

Other contributory factors to sidewall damage are the width of the water jet and the strength of any soaps or detergents used. Strong soap can remove protective chemicals that are embedded in the sidewall – usually resulting in the visual indication of brown watermarks – which can result in a significant reduction in durability.

For worry-free washing, TyreSafe offered the following tips:

  • Ideally, a light-to-medium duty pressure washer should be used (110 bar or less)
  • The washer jet nozzle should be kept at least 20 cm from the tyre surface
  • Always use a fan nozzle to clean tyres, rather than a circular nozzle
  • Prevent prolonged exposure to a specific area of the tyre
  • Avoid aiming the water jet directly at the join between the tyre and the wheel rim
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Discussion

potatoboy666

Original Poster:

108 posts

231 months

Thursday 18th January 2007
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Pressure washers are never a wonderful idea, what's wrong with elbow grease.

Calorus

4,081 posts

225 months

Thursday 18th January 2007
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potatoboy666 said:
Pressure washers are never a wonderful idea, what's wrong with elbow grease.

Scratch marks.

the last word

54 posts

209 months

Thursday 18th January 2007
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I'll stick to my hosepipe, thanks.

(Until they ban it again)

Ashok

601 posts

260 months

Thursday 18th January 2007
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Can we please have a translation in Albanian and Bulgarian?! )

TripleS

4,294 posts

243 months

Thursday 18th January 2007
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Calorus said:
potatoboy666 said:
Pressure washers are never a wonderful idea, what's wrong with elbow grease.

Scratch marks.


But if a car is very dirty/muddy/gritty you can do a good deal of damage to paintwork by careless use of high pressure water jets.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

pasthim

15,685 posts

235 months

Thursday 18th January 2007
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Is this really front page news. I mean, advice on washing tyre walls sleep

HUGE

1,138 posts

285 months

Thursday 18th January 2007
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pasthim said:
Is this really front page news. I mean, advice on washing tyre walls sleep


I agree.....Ive been to many racetracks.....and I have yet to see any marshalls washing tyre walls...

scoobiewrx

4,863 posts

227 months

Thursday 18th January 2007
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The advice given is a load of tosh. Most of the hand car wash people i go to dry the tyres off afterwards and then dress the tyre with tyres shine that also contains rubber conditioners. Newsworthy news must be in short supply.

Marc W

3,782 posts

212 months

Thursday 18th January 2007
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I never trust any of these wash your car in a car park lot anyway! I always do it myself. I use the jet wash at the garage sometimes but that always feels pretty low pressured and I don't tend to squirt it at the tyres.

Oddball RS

1,757 posts

219 months

Thursday 18th January 2007
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What a load of tyre swill,

News flash guns can kill don't point them at people............

Its a slow news day them, how many car wash crews? all damaging tyres, that must be why i see 4-5 blow outs every day then.

Curbs do far more damage, as do pot holes,

So why not article on the sate of the roads?

MGV8

1,632 posts

272 months

Thursday 18th January 2007
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Richard Hammond siad "I am not going to presher wash my Vampire dragster again"!

Calorus

4,081 posts

225 months

Thursday 18th January 2007
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MGV8 said:
Richard Hammond siad "I am not going to presher wash my Vampire dragster again"!



Shame.

And to think life would be fine were it not for one Vampire team member and a pressure washer.

Sleep gives you cancer.

TripleS

4,294 posts

243 months

Thursday 18th January 2007
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pasthim said:
Is this really front page news. I mean, advice on washing tyre walls sleep


Well I'm inclined to accept that a very high pressure jet directed at a tyre sidewall from close range might do some damage, which may not be immediately apparent. It seems fair to suggest a degree of caution. After all, some people on here might drive a bit swiftly at times and I'm sure they wouldn't want to increase the risk of a tyre failure at the wrong moment.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

bikemonster

1,188 posts

242 months

Thursday 18th January 2007
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Welcome to sniffpistonheads.com!

Bensonv8

470 posts

210 months

Thursday 18th January 2007
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The story says
"Ideally, a light-to-medium duty pressure washer should be used (110 bar or less)"

i think they mean 110 psi !!!
a jet wash at 110 bar would slice steel panels to pieces and would puncture a tyre instantly.
(110bar * 14.5 = 1595psi)

mrloudly

2,815 posts

236 months

Thursday 18th January 2007
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Hang on!! What about the millions of tyres that get "curbed" on a daily basis?
Now there's something to really worry about!

Andy

traffman

2,263 posts

210 months

Thursday 18th January 2007
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Hand washing is my preffered choice.

Use a wash mitt and dont use a sponge as this causes swirl marks.

mrloudly

2,815 posts

236 months

Thursday 18th January 2007
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It is right Benson, mine's 125 Bar

Andy

Calorus

4,081 posts

225 months

Thursday 18th January 2007
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My cousin seems to think washing is bad for children, too.