RE: Pantera rocks again?

RE: Pantera rocks again?

Thursday 26th July 2007

Pantera rocks again?

A new De Tomaso concept



These computer generated images of a spiritual successor to the De Tomaso Pantera supercar are the work of German designer Stefan Schulze.

The Italian-bodied and Ford V8-powered Pantera lived from 1971 right until the late 1990s, growing ever more outlandish spoilers and bodywork in traditional supercar fashion.


For his interpretation, Schulze has used the Lamborghini Gallardo as a base, and returned to the clean lines of the original in much the same manner as Luc Donckerwolke adopted with his superb Audi-era Lamborghini designs.

With a rumoured De Tomaso revival in the pipeline, this might not be the last we see of a reborn Pantera…


Source: Autoblog Argentina

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Luca1973

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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lick

Shame they couldn't spell the name right though wink

Top Trump

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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Hubba hubba lick




scotty_917

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222 months

Thursday 26th July 2007
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Looks great....though why is every designer...and their dog...trying to 're-hash' old classic designs? frown

....seems to have gone the way of the record industry...forever sampling old tunes...not too much that's original these days! coffee

Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Thursday 26th July 2007
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scotty_917 said:
....seems to have gone the way of the record industry...forever sampling old tunes...not too much that's original these days! coffee
Funny how Ford were the first to do it with their "Living Legends"... the motor industry accuses them of having no new ideas... them promptly follows suit... rolleyes

loboil

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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prolly because they (rehashes) sell by the bucket load.

Pillow Torque

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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Edited by Pillow Torque on Thursday 26th July 11:18

Hendry

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282 months

Thursday 26th July 2007
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Is this story anything other than about some design student using photoshop to modernise the Pantera? Is that news?

Why would anyone want to rebody a Gallardo, which is hardly a pig. And what excatly would make it a De Tomaso, given that it would have Lamborghini running gear underneath. I can't imagine anyone wanting to rip that out to put a Ford V8 in it to make it authentic.

This is little more than me sticking a fez on and announcing I am the new Tommy Cooper.

mark_s

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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I was just going to say the same thing about the Fiat Coupe front end! Thought of it instantly when i saw it. GT40 looks very similar too. Nice renders too

rev-erend

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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Pant wettingly gorgeous !

PhantomPH

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225 months

Thursday 26th July 2007
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You see so many of these things. People go, "Holy crap, WOW!!!!!" - and then no car manufacturer ever builds the bloody things!

Strikes me that the only manufacturer I can think of that produces real cars which look like road-going concepts, are Ferrari.

Look at the moose that is the Porsche Panamera.

:shakes head:

Just someone hire the designer and build the fricken thing!

P~

Podie

46,630 posts

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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The problem is they get designers to style these things...

Classic example, as part of my degree we (Ergonomists) worked with Designers and Auto Engineers to produce a car for a project... it went something like this...

Designer: What do you think..?
A. Engineers: Looks good, but where's the engine going to go..?
Ergomonomists: Sod the engine, how the hell is anyone going to fit in it..?
Designer: But it looks good, right?

banghead

FUBAR

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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Could just buy an original smilehttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/de-Tomaso-Pantera-GTS_W0QQit...

(PS its a PHer owned one)

FourWheelDrift

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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Pillow Torque said:
Images of cars
Why not put it side by side with the original DeTomaso Pantera? After all that is what it is based on.

FUBAR

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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FourWheelDrift said:
Pillow Torque said:
Images of cars
Why not put it side by side with the original DeTomaso Pantera? After all that is what it is based on.


?? smile



Classy yellow Cerb in the background too

wink

Edited by FUBAR on Thursday 26th July 11:44

Almost Naked

735 posts

202 months

Thursday 26th July 2007
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Podie said:
The problem is they get designers to style these things...

Classic example, as part of my degree we (Ergonomists) worked with Designers and Auto Engineers to produce a car for a project... it went something like this...

Designer: What do you think..?
A. Engineers: Looks good, but where's the engine going to go..?
Ergomonomists: Sod the engine, how the hell is anyone going to fit in it..?
Designer: But it looks good, right?

banghead
Big-ups to the ergonomist! I have a vast respect for ergonomists, my industrial placement was with MG/Rover just before they folded, doing research for a new interior for the TF. It was hard work! I am a designer, I do a little engineering and lots of ergo on all my projects now, not just package drawings.

As for the Pantera, the front looks a bit ham-fisted, they could have made it alot more elegant, like the original.

groomi

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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I'm not convinced that a Gallardo fits under there at all, the cabin seems waaaay to far back - as if you'd be sitting on the engine.

The previous post with a picture of a Ford GT looked far more approprite a starting point, although, how much it would cost to rebody a GT is anybodies guess.

Also, I'm pretty sure this is just a design student. The name rings a bell from the Designerspace website where I used to look around about 4/5 years ago. If it is the guy I'm thinking of then his stuff was very basic back then and I expect he was pre-university age - so is probably just graduating now. All supposition, but it does just seem a pretty picture really.

Pillow Torque

784 posts

203 months

Thursday 26th July 2007
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FourWheelDrift said:
Pillow Torque said:
Images of cars
Why not put it side by side with the original DeTomaso Pantera? After all that is what it is based on.
Because on first glance the side profile looked more Ford GT than original Pantera and the front-end is very Fiat Coupe, where as the original is not. The only real similarity is the back end and the sharp square edges of the lines.

sprinter885

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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Quite like it-with a few tweaks could be a cool reincarnation of original which methinks was a classic (though how reliable ?)Kinda liked that era for supercars-Miura Espada Pantera etc.
also is it just me or is there a hint of Delorean about it?

funkyol

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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Hendry said:
Is this story anything other than about some design student using photoshop to modernise the Pantera? Is that news?

Why would anyone want to rebody a Gallardo, which is hardly a pig. And what excatly would make it a De Tomaso, given that it would have Lamborghini running gear underneath. I can't imagine anyone wanting to rip that out to put a Ford V8 in it to make it authentic.

This is little more than me sticking a fez on and announcing I am the new Tommy Cooper.
Exclusivity perhaps? I'd much rather drive round in one of those than a Gallardo of which you see loads all the time. I think it looks stunning too!

Podie

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Thursday 26th July 2007
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Almost Naked said:
Podie said:
The problem is they get designers to style these things...

Classic example, as part of my degree we (Ergonomists) worked with Designers and Auto Engineers to produce a car for a project... it went something like this...

Designer: What do you think..?
A. Engineers: Looks good, but where's the engine going to go..?
Ergomonomists: Sod the engine, how the hell is anyone going to fit in it..?
Designer: But it looks good, right?

banghead
Big-ups to the ergonomist! I have a vast respect for ergonomists, my industrial placement was with MG/Rover just before they folded, doing research for a new interior for the TF. It was hard work! I am a designer, I do a little engineering and lots of ergo on all my projects now, not just package drawings.

As for the Pantera, the front looks a bit ham-fisted, they could have made it alot more elegant, like the original.
Didn't work with a guy called Martin did you..??! (He's also on PH)

I did some stuff at Rover, but I was working for MIRA at the time...


Funny thing is, when everyone got together it was stunning what could be produced... yes

Edited by Podie on Thursday 26th July 12:01