RE: Nurburgring Theme Park

RE: Nurburgring Theme Park

Monday 4th February 2008

Nurburgring Theme Park

Legendary circuit to get its own amusement park


As much fun as a 911 round the 'Ring?
As much fun as a 911 round the 'Ring?
Germany’s Nurburgring has seen some quick metal in its time but soon all visitors will be able to crack 0-135mph in just 2.5 seconds.

According to reports the circuit is getting its very own theme park and the main attraction will be an insanely fast rollercoaster.

It is understood developers are looking at a piece of land next to the circuit to build the new attraction, which will also feature a new science centre and museum.

The rollercoaster is expected to be two seconds faster than an F1 car to reach 125mph and the track will stretch for 1.2km.

The attraction will be accelerated using compressed air, said the makers.

Plans are already underway for the new theme park, which it is hoped will bring more fans to the circuit each year.

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Northern-Loop

Original Poster:

913 posts

228 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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Guess it will be fun on those wet days out there. Got it feeling its going to be in the lower carpark next to the track.

Track is far too busy to warrant the expensive laps now.

flemke

22,865 posts

238 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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The work has already begun. The eastern half of the main grandstand, from the Dorint to the pit access road, has been totally razed. The car park in front of it is a disaster area.
The work is supposed to be completed by next year's GP, although locals expect that it will only be finished a year after that.

willdew

2,138 posts

265 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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Sounds like a move to create a viable economy for the area that's not based around public access to the 'ring, which has been the main objection in German Parliament to the thing being shut down. So the introduction of a theme park, could be a means to the German Green party getting their way and the 'ring being close to the general public...

Only a theory, but it's my initial thoughts to the above.

RDMcG

19,186 posts

208 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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All bad news...the unique character of the place will be lost .

flemke

22,865 posts

238 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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willdew said:
Sounds like a move to create a viable economy for the area that's not based around public access to the 'ring, which has been the main objection in German Parliament to the thing being shut down. So the introduction of a theme park, could be a means to the German Green party getting their way and the 'ring being close to the general public...

Only a theory, but it's my initial thoughts to the above.
Nordschleife open to all - but only as passengers in a fleet of 'ring taxis?
Not a pretty thought.

AdamT

2,820 posts

253 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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flemke said:
willdew said:
Sounds like a move to create a viable economy for the area that's not based around public access to the 'ring, which has been the main objection in German Parliament to the thing being shut down. So the introduction of a theme park, could be a means to the German Green party getting their way and the 'ring being close to the general public...

Only a theory, but it's my initial thoughts to the above.
Nordschleife open to all - but only as passengers in a fleet of 'ring taxis?
Not a pretty thought.
Agreed, very worrying.

dinkel

26,959 posts

259 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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RDMcG said:
All bad news...the unique character of the place will be lost .
Ta, attract more fans? It's effing busy each day . . .

rossp

2,523 posts

284 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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I think that this can only be bad news for those of us that regularly visit the Nordschleife to drive the circuit.

The number of visitors has been increasing year-on-year with a large British contingent. It's difficult to get many decent laps in with the level of traffic and closures frown

I better make the most of my trip in May!

Ross.

handpaper

1,296 posts

204 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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willdew said:
Sounds like a move to create a viable economy for the area that's not based around public access to the 'ring, which has been the main objection in German Parliament to the thing being shut down. So the introduction of a theme park, could be a means to the German Green party getting their way and the 'ring being close to the general public...

Only a theory, but it's my initial thoughts to the above.
Touristfahrten will only stop when Nurburgring GmBH don't make money from it. It's their 'private road' and any legislative attempt to shut it would result in a huge backlash - history, civil liberties, industry interest and the Eifel tourist trade (which is why it's there) would all be against such a move.
A theme park will be handy, especially to those of us with kids, but it will never replace the Nordschleife as a reason to holiday in Eifel

lord summerisle

8,138 posts

226 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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more info here: http://www.parkscout.de/artikel/neues_fahrgeschaef...

translated
article said:
New world premiere coaster at the Nürburgring

Imagine accelerating from 0 to 217 km/h (134.84 mph) in only 2.5 seconds -- faster acceleration than a Formula 1 car. You can experience this amazing launch, the fastest in the world, starting in 2009 at the Nürburgring.

Acceleration more powerful than on any race car: "Racecoaster" offers a more authentic version of this experience than any other. The strained feeling before the start, the rising adrenaline, the driver being pushed back into his seat as the traffic light turns to green and the race begins. This is what the race car driver must experience at the beginning of each event - and so can the visitors to the Nürburgring experience on this spectacular coaster that catapults them to 217 km/h (nearly 135 mph). In comparison, a Formula 1 car accelerates to this speed in about 5 seconds, twice as much time as is needed on "Racecoaster." This will be the quickest acceleration and greatest speed of any coaster ever built, launched or otherwise.

Direct along the starting line and home stretches of the Nürburgring race track, this coaster is a unique, unbelievable, yet real experience. Nowhere in the world exists a coaster built directly next to a race track, nor one that travels at such speeds. After the passengers enter through a railway station in the new indoor attraction, Racecoaster's launch runs parallel parallel to the Grand Prix stretch on the race track, with its starting point aligned to the starting line of the track. Here, the vehicle accelerates to its top speed of 217 km/h, travels 480 meters (1574.8 ft) along the race track then sharply curves to the left. The coaster's route leads back through the Boulevard and ends again in the railway station. Each of the coaster's two four-car vehicles is capable of transporting eight passengers. Altogether, the coaster travels 1.2 kilometers (3937.01 feet) in its adrenaline-packed course.

The coaster will be manufactured by leading coaster builder S&S Power. "S&S Power is one of the most experienced companies in the field of compressed-air launched coasters, with extensive experience in its field," explains Dr. Walter Kafitz, principal director of the Nürburgring GmbH. "The components of the coaster are designed to meet the German TÜV-standard, the German industry standard (DIN), and the European standard (E)." The compressed-air launching system allows for the highest speeds and acceleration, is highly reliable, and consumes little energy.



kevin ritson

3,423 posts

228 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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handpaper said:
willdew said:
Sounds like a move to create a viable economy for the area that's not based around public access to the 'ring, which has been the main objection in German Parliament to the thing being shut down. So the introduction of a theme park, could be a means to the German Green party getting their way and the 'ring being close to the general public...

Only a theory, but it's my initial thoughts to the above.
Touristfahrten will only stop when Nurburgring GmBH don't make money from it. It's their 'private road' and any legislative attempt to shut it would result in a huge backlash - history, civil liberties, industry interest and the Eifel tourist trade (which is why it's there) would all be against such a move.
A theme park will be handy, especially to those of us with kids, but it will never replace the Nordschleife as a reason to holiday in Eifel
History and Civil liberties mean nothing when cars are involved, sadly - look at Hockenheim's forever lost forest section or the bypassing of the European Human Rights legislation when it affects the right to remain silent on the question of who was driving.

It's not the Touristfahrten that worries me but the Greenfahrten that's being spouted

kevin ritson

3,423 posts

228 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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lord summerisle said:
more info here: http://www.parkscout.de/artikel/neues_fahrgeschaef...

translated
article said:
New world premiere coaster at the Nürburgring

Imagine accelerating from 0 to 217 km/h (134.84 mph) in only 2.5 seconds -- faster acceleration than a Formula 1 car. You can experience this amazing launch, the fastest in the world, starting in 2009 at the Nürburgring.

Acceleration more powerful than on any race car: "Racecoaster" offers a more authentic version of this experience than any other. The strained feeling before the start, the rising adrenaline, the driver being pushed back into his seat as the traffic light turns to green and the race begins. This is what the race car driver must experience at the beginning of each event - and so can the visitors to the Nürburgring experience on this spectacular coaster that catapults them to 217 km/h (nearly 135 mph). In comparison, a Formula 1 car accelerates to this speed in about 5 seconds, twice as much time as is needed on "Racecoaster." This will be the quickest acceleration and greatest speed of any coaster ever built, launched or otherwise.

Direct along the starting line and home stretches of the Nürburgring race track, this coaster is a unique, unbelievable, yet real experience. Nowhere in the world exists a coaster built directly next to a race track, nor one that travels at such speeds. After the passengers enter through a railway station in the new indoor attraction, Racecoaster's launch runs parallel parallel to the Grand Prix stretch on the race track, with its starting point aligned to the starting line of the track. Here, the vehicle accelerates to its top speed of 217 km/h, travels 480 meters (1574.8 ft) along the race track then sharply curves to the left. The coaster's route leads back through the Boulevard and ends again in the railway station. Each of the coaster's two four-car vehicles is capable of transporting eight passengers. Altogether, the coaster travels 1.2 kilometers (3937.01 feet) in its adrenaline-packed course.

The coaster will be manufactured by leading coaster builder S&S Power. "S&S Power is one of the most experienced companies in the field of compressed-air launched coasters, with extensive experience in its field," explains Dr. Walter Kafitz, principal director of the Nürburgring GmbH. "The components of the coaster are designed to meet the German TÜV-standard, the German industry standard (DIN), and the European standard (E)." The compressed-air launching system allows for the highest speeds and acceleration, is highly reliable, and consumes little energy.
Looks like a train....bet it'll be restricted to 10kph in the name of safety as well

willdew

2,138 posts

265 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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handpaper said:
willdew said:
Sounds like a move to create a viable economy for the area that's not based around public access to the 'ring, which has been the main objection in German Parliament to the thing being shut down. So the introduction of a theme park, could be a means to the German Green party getting their way and the 'ring being close to the general public...

Only a theory, but it's my initial thoughts to the above.
Touristfahrten will only stop when Nurburgring GmBH don't make money from it. It's their 'private road' and any legislative attempt to shut it would result in a huge backlash - history, civil liberties, industry interest and the Eifel tourist trade (which is why it's there) would all be against such a move.
A theme park will be handy, especially to those of us with kids, but it will never replace the Nordschleife as a reason to holiday in Eifel
My understanding is that it's mainly economic factors that stop the very influential German Green party having their way and having the place shut down, and most of the other arguments are pretty much defeated. Our hobby is very un-PC, and even your average German is coming to think this. The introduction of a viable economic alternative in the area, such as an "Alton Towers" type theme park, would erode the economic argument for keeping the 'ring open to the public.

I also agree with others above in this thread - we don't need/want more people on the tourist days. They are at capacity and it's now hardly worth going for any Sunday tourist sessions, due to over-demand. The Nordschleife isn't a family holiday destination. And if the big boys that trek the 300 miles from Calais to get there don't have enough to do, don't bother going and make more room for the rest of us.

Stuismyname

1,706 posts

238 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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Awful news. The last thing that place needs is more tourists (says he, an English tourist), let alone families taking leisurely afternoon laps after visiting the theme park.

Best case scenario is it stalls on funding and gets binned.


Gooby

9,268 posts

235 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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Article said:
expected to be two seconds faster than an F1 car to reach 125mph and the track will stretch for 1.2km.

The attraction will be accelerated using compressed air, said the makers.
So... it is an airgun?

ASBO

26,140 posts

215 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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rossp said:
I think that this can only be bad news for those of us that regularly visit the Nordschleife to drive the circuit.

The number of visitors has been increasing year-on-year with a large British contingent. It's difficult to get many decent laps in with the level of traffic and closures frown

I better make the most of my trip in May!

Ross.
Same here.

Going in May for the first time. Hope to merry christ it wont be the last!

Jonty99

4,423 posts

214 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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Why cant they just re-open it for formula 1??? See what these youngsters are really made of! They're just all going round tracks designed for pansies! Get them back on some proper circuits! There's only really Monaco and Monza thats any good these days.

RickLine86

174 posts

259 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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Removing the soul of the 'Ring aside, is that a sensible level of acceleration for 'normal' people to experience?!

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

251 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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0-135mph in 2.5 seconds is unbelievable eek I went on the similar style coaster at Thorpe Park and it said 0-80mph in 2.8 seconds I think. I reasoned to myself that I had been in some awesomely quick cars that were 60mph ~3secs, so it would be comparable to that.

Oh no, 0-80 in 2.8 was shockingly quick (I actually swore the first time unintentionally), and 5 runs killed my neck muscles. 0-135mph.....WOW!

Joe911

2,763 posts

236 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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I think a problem is that a theme park is only part of the development - there's a very large hotel, conference rooms, a shopping centre, golf course, motorsports village (bungalow-style accommodation for families), etc. etc.

There is some skepticism that any of these facilities, built at significant cost, will be used to an extent to justify their creation.

The hotel will probably be full four days a year:
- F1 GP
- Truck GP
- Bike GP
- 24h

They are hoping/expecting that the facilities being built will attract people to the area - but will it - who's going to trek there other than us petrol-heads?