Diesel Fuel Leak
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320D touring E91
Car with BMW at the moment due to my reported fuel leak , when tank is brimmed. Dealer has told me this is not uncommon and would probably be a breather pipe.
They just phoned and confirmed.
Price of part £20
Labour £500 4 hours work at £123 per hour, Tank to be removed ?
Told them to forget it and return car.
They then said they may get goodwill from BMW but might take a few days.
Is this a common fault, any comments please
Car with BMW at the moment due to my reported fuel leak , when tank is brimmed. Dealer has told me this is not uncommon and would probably be a breather pipe.
They just phoned and confirmed.
Price of part £20
Labour £500 4 hours work at £123 per hour, Tank to be removed ?
Told them to forget it and return car.
They then said they may get goodwill from BMW but might take a few days.
Is this a common fault, any comments please
reeventu said:
320D touring E91
Car with BMW at the moment due to my reported fuel leak , when tank is brimmed. Dealer has told me this is not uncommon and would probably be a breather pipe.
They just phoned and confirmed.
Price of part £20
Labour £500 4 hours work at £123 per hour, Tank to be removed ?
Told them to forget it and return car.
They then said they may get goodwill from BMW but might take a few days.
Is this a common fault, any comments please
this certainly sounds like breather hose. the breather hose in my car has corroded (but it's going to be about 25 years older than yours!!) and so i can't brim the tank full, but you can fill it mostly up as the hose comes in near the top of the tank. that's a bit bad from BMW IMO, a breather hose should not have gone on a brand new BMW, mine only started going about 4-5months ago, and that was when it was 26 years old! I would take it back and say it's not good enough! either 2 things, they didn't fit it properly and thus it's leaking, or the hose has corroded. now, very unlikely the hose has corroded on such a new car....so....take it back and get them to do it!!!!!Car with BMW at the moment due to my reported fuel leak , when tank is brimmed. Dealer has told me this is not uncommon and would probably be a breather pipe.
They just phoned and confirmed.
Price of part £20
Labour £500 4 hours work at £123 per hour, Tank to be removed ?
Told them to forget it and return car.
They then said they may get goodwill from BMW but might take a few days.
Is this a common fault, any comments please
let me know how it goes
Ross
reeventu said:
320D touring E91
Car with BMW at the moment due to my reported fuel leak , when tank is brimmed. Dealer has told me this is not uncommon and would probably be a breather pipe.
They just phoned and confirmed.
Price of part £20
Labour £500 4 hours work at £123 per hour, Tank to be removed ?
Told them to forget it and return car.
They then said they may get goodwill from BMW but might take a few days.
Is this a common fault, any comments please
I'm not up on E numbers, which year is that?Car with BMW at the moment due to my reported fuel leak , when tank is brimmed. Dealer has told me this is not uncommon and would probably be a breather pipe.
They just phoned and confirmed.
Price of part £20
Labour £500 4 hours work at £123 per hour, Tank to be removed ?
Told them to forget it and return car.
They then said they may get goodwill from BMW but might take a few days.
Is this a common fault, any comments please
I have a 55 plate 320D which had this particluar fault about a year ago when 2.5 years old approx. Brim the tank and park nose up and it would leak.
New breather fitted under warranty. Took them about 2 days, tank has to be removed.
the E90/91/92 series are the latest 3 series, coupe, touring and saloon. so it seems it's a common problem. this is a really poor problem IMO! take it back and get them to fix it for free! breather pipe/hoses should not be going on a new car, understandable after 20+ years of service as rubber degrades and cracks etc, but a new car...not good enough from a great manufacturer.
reeventu said:
320D touring E91
Car with BMW at the moment due to my reported fuel leak , when tank is brimmed. Dealer has told me this is not uncommon and would probably be a breather pipe.
They just phoned and confirmed.
Price of part £20
Labour £500 4 hours work at £123 per hour, Tank to be removed ?
Told them to forget it and return car.
They then said they may get goodwill from BMW but might take a few days.
Is this a common fault, any comments please
Find a local HGV centre. If a diesel (which is a VERY high pressure system) runs out of fuel or loses pressure, it needs re-pressurising. With a petrol engine, if it run's out of fuel you can just refill the tank & crank the starter until the petrol is drawn through to the carb/injectors.Car with BMW at the moment due to my reported fuel leak , when tank is brimmed. Dealer has told me this is not uncommon and would probably be a breather pipe.
They just phoned and confirmed.
Price of part £20
Labour £500 4 hours work at £123 per hour, Tank to be removed ?
Told them to forget it and return car.
They then said they may get goodwill from BMW but might take a few days.
Is this a common fault, any comments please
A diesel engine is totally different because of the heavy viscosity (It's called HEAVY OIL!) & the enormous pressure required o move oil (as opposed to petrol) from the rear to the front. The £500 labour quote is ridiculous (but knowing that the average BMW dealership rate is approx £195/hr(!!!) I'm not surprised. Why they should want to remove the fuel tank is beyond my imagination though!!!
Many years ago I used to service Diesel fork-lift trucks & it only took 20 minutes to re-pressurise an empty tank. Go Figure??
Car still with dealer , they have requested a goodwill from BMW, we shall see?
the car is 55 plate, 34,000 miles, i owner etc,
It is already the subject of a ' goodwill' from BMW as the traction control packed up requiring the replacement of a unit costing around £1200 plus £600 labour.
BMW have offered ( I accepted ) free part plus 50% labour .
Still going to cost me to £308 incl VAT etc.
There is also a misting up headlight , replacement cost apprx £900 would you believe.
I have had many BMW 's 520, 540, 740 and all have had their problems, but I think this is the worst of them all.
Qiute honestly wish I had bought the new Mondeo offered to me at less money on an 08 plate , V6 petrol and 8000 miles.The fuel cost on my mileage would already be covered by the costs on the BM.
I am not really griping but £123 labour charge is crazy. I do have a good Indy but he , of course , cannot go for the ' goodwill'.
Ah well , I will keep you advised
the car is 55 plate, 34,000 miles, i owner etc,
It is already the subject of a ' goodwill' from BMW as the traction control packed up requiring the replacement of a unit costing around £1200 plus £600 labour.
BMW have offered ( I accepted ) free part plus 50% labour .
Still going to cost me to £308 incl VAT etc.
There is also a misting up headlight , replacement cost apprx £900 would you believe.
I have had many BMW 's 520, 540, 740 and all have had their problems, but I think this is the worst of them all.
Qiute honestly wish I had bought the new Mondeo offered to me at less money on an 08 plate , V6 petrol and 8000 miles.The fuel cost on my mileage would already be covered by the costs on the BM.
I am not really griping but £123 labour charge is crazy. I do have a good Indy but he , of course , cannot go for the ' goodwill'.
Ah well , I will keep you advised
mikez328 said:
reeventu said:
320D touring E91
Car with BMW at the moment due to my reported fuel leak , when tank is brimmed. Dealer has told me this is not uncommon and would probably be a breather pipe.
They just phoned and confirmed.
Price of part £20
Labour £500 4 hours work at £123 per hour, Tank to be removed ?
Told them to forget it and return car.
They then said they may get goodwill from BMW but might take a few days.
Is this a common fault, any comments please
Find a local HGV centre. If a diesel (which is a VERY high pressure system) runs out of fuel or loses pressure, it needs re-pressurising. With a petrol engine, if it run's out of fuel you can just refill the tank & crank the starter until the petrol is drawn through to the carb/injectors.Car with BMW at the moment due to my reported fuel leak , when tank is brimmed. Dealer has told me this is not uncommon and would probably be a breather pipe.
They just phoned and confirmed.
Price of part £20
Labour £500 4 hours work at £123 per hour, Tank to be removed ?
Told them to forget it and return car.
They then said they may get goodwill from BMW but might take a few days.
Is this a common fault, any comments please
A diesel engine is totally different because of the heavy viscosity (It's called HEAVY OIL!) & the enormous pressure required o move oil (as opposed to petrol) from the rear to the front. The £500 labour quote is ridiculous (but knowing that the average BMW dealership rate is approx £195/hr(!!!) I'm not surprised. Why they should want to remove the fuel tank is beyond my imagination though!!!
Many years ago I used to service Diesel fork-lift trucks & it only took 20 minutes to re-pressurise an empty tank. Go Figure??
This is very interesting as i filled my car up (Brimmed)yesterday and parked it up for the night. My wife went out this morning and came back in saying there was a wet patch and a fuel smell. Had a look and its diesel when she reversed off the driveway you could see little drips. Quickly did a search and came acroos this post.
Surely this must be a recall??? I called BMW as its booked in next week for a diagnostic on power hesitation and explained to the Service chap he said he'd never heard of this on a 3 series but on the 5 Series. So they will investigate when its in.
Luckily i have the BMW 12 month used car warranty as my car is an 06 320d touring. I also had a problem with the traction control module which would have cost Around £1200 had i didnt have a warranty.
Surely this must be a recall??? I called BMW as its booked in next week for a diagnostic on power hesitation and explained to the Service chap he said he'd never heard of this on a 3 series but on the 5 Series. So they will investigate when its in.
Luckily i have the BMW 12 month used car warranty as my car is an 06 320d touring. I also had a problem with the traction control module which would have cost Around £1200 had i didnt have a warranty.
I have just had exactly the same problem 05 plate 320d. Fuel dripping from right hand side of car just in front of rear wheel...dealer says it is a cracked tank or hose. Only does this when tank is brimmed. Luckily the car is still under warranty but it is going to cost me the £250 excess! Seems like a very common problem.
I have just been reading the posts regarding the Bmw 3 series diesel fuel leak/ breather hose leak when the fuel tank is brimmed . I have a 2005 320 Diesel with the same problem.Told it is not covered by the 12 months warranty and will cost £500 to remove tank to replace hose, Bmw have offered 50 % good will reduction on labour.
This seems to be a common problem on this forum , hoses should not be failing at this rate and age.!!!
Is there a a design or material fault?
Should Bmw be replacing these hoses under warranty ?
This seems to be a common problem on this forum , hoses should not be failing at this rate and age.!!!
Is there a a design or material fault?
Should Bmw be replacing these hoses under warranty ?
Thank you for your reply buffly.
I will persist for a better goodwill price from the dealer to cchange the pipe.
I have read the warranty and the warranty specifically does not cover coolant and fuel hoses.
I presume a plastic breather pipe is neither a coolant or a fuel hose and should therefore be covered under warranty.( i have a 12 months parts and labour warranty )?
I will persist for a better goodwill price from the dealer to cchange the pipe.
I have read the warranty and the warranty specifically does not cover coolant and fuel hoses.
I presume a plastic breather pipe is neither a coolant or a fuel hose and should therefore be covered under warranty.( i have a 12 months parts and labour warranty )?
hi
i have a bmw e90 320d auto from 2007 and i had the same problem when fill the tank to the max would start leaking and it was the breather pipe.
breather pipe cost £40
labour £60 that is a private garage in london
they only had to lower my tank down to fit the pipe
and they have replace the pipe in 50 min .NOT 4 HOURS
All bmw is doing to rip people off!!! when this should be free because is a common pr.
i have a bmw e90 320d auto from 2007 and i had the same problem when fill the tank to the max would start leaking and it was the breather pipe.
breather pipe cost £40
labour £60 that is a private garage in london
they only had to lower my tank down to fit the pipe
and they have replace the pipe in 50 min .NOT 4 HOURS
All bmw is doing to rip people off!!! when this should be free because is a common pr.
Welshbeef said:
Anyone know if this is still an issue with the E90?
Is this the problem where the breather pipe rubs against the bodywork of the car? If so, see this thread:http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Seems they altered the part in July 2006.
My wife has a 2005 E91 as her daily driver, and I keep meaning to have a look under the arch liner (not leaking fuel yet, so far as I can see).
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