RE: Driven: Lexus LFA

Thursday 15th July 2010

Driven: Lexus LFA

A £250k supercar and a circuit with minimal run-off. Is this sensible?



Something about this is wrong. Actually scratch that - everything about this is wrong. I'm sitting in the driving seat of a £250k, 203mph supercar - one that isn't even yet in full series production - about to be released for a solo drive round Goodwood Motor Circuit. For those that don't know it, this is a track that can charitably described as having limited run-off and where, once you have run out of grass, a thin veneer of tyres is all that exists to cushion your impact with a determinedly immovable earth bank.


More confusing still is that the badge on the long, wedgy bonnet is the stylised L of Lexus, a marque more known for wafting company directors around in ostentatiously eco-conscious hybrid saloons and SUVs.

Still, there it is - however unlikely it may seem, Toyota/Lexus has gone and built a supercar. And they must be confident in its ability, because they've plonked a scruffy PH journalist in the driving seat, pointed the car at a notoriously tricky circuit and said 'go drive'. No 'please be careful with our pre-production supercar', no speed limits, no passenger to calm any over-exuberance. Brilliant.


A slightly gung-ho attitude to letting journos drive the car is actually curiously appropriate, because the LFA is a bit of a rule-breaker itself. Toyota coyly calls the LFA's development process 'unconventional', but what it means by this is that it has ripped the Toyota Motor Corporation 'how to make a new car' rulebook apart and thrown the shreds out of the window.

The LFA is a car that has taken a decade to develop. It has been planned from the outset as an engineering challenge rather than a commercial venture (itself a minor miracle in such a profit-obsessed company. It has even been switched from an aluminium monocoque to one made of carbon fibre - necessitating the creation of Toyota's own in-house carbon production processes. The Lexus LFA is, in short, the complete antithesis of the usual streamlined production ToMoCo fare.


This is something I realise within a few short moments of being released out of the Goodwood pit lane. There are some who have questioned, well, the heart of the LFA, but all it will take the doubters is about 20 seconds in the driving seat - or passenger seat - to realise that this is a fully committed, red-blooded, focused supercar.

Those few seconds are enough to flick through about three gears (the flappy-paddle transmission is only a single-clutch affair in order to help save weight) up to around 120mph, before stamping on the brakes for Madgwick, Goodwood's first corner.


The 4.8-litre V10 yowls up to its 9000rpm red line before a beep alerts you that it's time to grab another gear and you're flung down the road to the braking point for Madgwick, whereupon you hit the left of the two pedals and the carbon-ceramic brakes haul you back to an eminently sensible speed almost instantly.

So powerful are the brakes that the first time you stamp on them with enthusiasm, you'll almost certainly find yourself coming up short to the corner. Once you've adjusted to how hard and late you can brake - and therefore how much speed you can build on the preceding straight - you can begin to feel the huge grip the LFA has to offer, and how eager it is to change direction.


This is a supercar of the athletic, flyweight variety rather than a bung-a-big-engine-in-and-hope affair. The cabin emphasises this. All the controls are driver-focused, with everything important - including the chassis settings and a knob to control how vicious the gearchange is - little more than a hand-span away. You sit low, too, with the steering wheel high and close, and the high transmission tunnel and window line cocooning you.

Everything also feels beautifully put together, but not extravagant, either in weight or luxury. The indicator stalks, for example, feel spindly, but solidly engineered, as though every extraneous gram has been shaved from them, but that not one penny has been pinched in their development.


It's all very sophisticated in the way it handles, too. In the immediacy of its responses the LFA feels a little bit like a Porsche GT3 RS, but it has none of that car's rawness; it might have hyperactive dynamic responses, but the LFA's edges are smoothed off, making it a surprisingly approachable car.

That doesn't mean its limits are approachable, however. I would like to tell you exactly how the LFA feels on the very edge of opposite lock, but I'm no Stig (as you can see from the video below), we're not out to set record lap times, and the Lexus's limits are so high that at most places around Goodwood I run out of courage way before the car runs out of talent.


We're told before we get into the car that the LFA will generate up to 1.4g of lateral grip if asked, a feat I can well believe, but the best I get out of it is just over 1g at the sweeping double-apex right-hander of Lavant corner - and that feels quick enough. In fact the only place the LFA feels anything other than rock steady is in the braking zone for the right turn before St Mary's. And that is an off-camber, over-a-crest job, which the car approaches at almost 140mph, so we can probably forgive its little wiggle from the rear.

What Goodwood's fast, flowing corners and longish straights do show off beautifully, however, is the explosive mid-range pace of the LFA. The way it piles on speed between 75mph and 130mph is truly astonishing.


The Lexus LFA might not have much in the way of sports car pedigree, but it has most certainly been thoroughly well bred. But is it worth £250k? I'm not sure, but it's kind of a moot point, because all 500 planned examples have been sold - so some people must reckon so.

The LFA is also one of those cars that should warm the cockles of any car enthusiast's heart, because it proves that even an oft-faceless corporation like Toyota has a heart and soul.

 

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Garlick

Original Poster:

40,601 posts

240 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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Nice laps Riggers, gets faster as you go. I'm impressed biggrin

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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Looks good, although not sure it looks £250,000 good. Why would you want one of these over a new Ferrari 458??

Garlick

Original Poster:

40,601 posts

240 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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The Crack Fox said:
£250k. Two hundred and fifty grand. How many do they expect to sell ?
It's always been quoted at this price, and has been for ages now. Nothing new, but I agree its on the dear side hehe

Riggers

1,859 posts

178 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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Garlick said:
The Crack Fox said:
£250k. Two hundred and fifty grand. How many do they expect to sell ?
It's always been quoted at this price, and has been for ages now. Nothing new, but I agree its on the dear side hehe
500 planned production run - 500 already sold... smile

nonuts

15,855 posts

229 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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That top speed is pretty impressive on that bit of tarmac.

I want one of these if I win the lottery.

useyourdellusion

5,648 posts

190 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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The Crack Fox said:
£250k. Two hundred and fifty grand. How many do they expect to sell ?
They've sold them all haven't they?

Smartass

177 posts

192 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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The £250k is probably a reasonable price for the depth of engineering and ability but would it have cost a lot more to make it look a bit less, well, fuggly?

Bibbs

3,733 posts

210 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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The Crack Fox said:
£250k. Two hundred and fifty grand. How many do they expect to sell ?
None, they have already sold them all.

Riggers

1,859 posts

178 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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Smartass said:
The £250k is probably a reasonable price for the depth of engineering and ability but would it have cost a lot more to make it look a bit less, well, fuggly?
Doesn't photograph well, does it? If it's any consolation it does look a bit better in 'real life'. But it ain't the prettiest thing.

Dagnut

3,515 posts

193 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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I think that price issue has been done to DEATH now...and yes I am partly responsible so I won't prattle on about it again...the main issue I have with this car every review mentions. "light weight" and "weight saving technology"...so why isn't it light then?

XJR500bhp

1,194 posts

210 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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It's the kind of japanese supercar i would associate the little guys with! Does what it's supposed to do, bit like the GTR

cptsideways

13,546 posts

252 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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The noise is really something else & what makes the car for me, did you get a lap with Iida San with the all safety Gizmo's switched off? yikesbiglaugh


When I was out at the Nurburgring 24hr of all the cars it was the best sounding car by miles, you could hear it miles away too biggrin

Riggers

1,859 posts

178 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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Dagnut said:
I think that price issue has been done to DEATH now...and yes I am partly responsible so I won't prattle on about it again...the main issue I have with this car every review mentions. "light weight" and "weight saving technology"...so why isn't it light then?
Lexus LFA - 1480kg, Ferrari 458 - 1485kg, Porsche 911 Turbo S - 1585kg, Aston Martin DBS - 1695kg.

Reckon it acquits itself quite well in that company. For reference, a Mondeo weighs about 1560kg.

Just don't mention the Gallardo Superleggera or the GT3 RS, 'cos they weigh 1340kg and 1370kg respectively...whistle...

MIP1983

210 posts

205 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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I love this car. If I had silly money I would. Not in white though, much prefer:


scubadude

2,618 posts

197 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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Due to price its irrevelant to me but.... that noise! NICE... every clip that gets posted, this one, test laps on the 'Ring, footage on TV it always aounds superb is a screaming F1 type of way.

Around here the only road vehicles I hear are the odd motorbike and Chav Subarus which sound like the downpipes got a hole in them... every now and then you just want to hear a real engine :-) Thanks Lexus/Toyota

Caractacus

2,604 posts

225 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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300bhp/ton said:
Why would you want one of these over a new Ferrari 458??
Because it is not a Fiat 458, that's why.

HTH.

smile

TheRoadWarrior

1,241 posts

178 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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I thought it was supposed to be £335,000 not £250,000?

My fave car from this years FOS... oh the noise!

Dagnut

3,515 posts

193 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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Riggers said:
Dagnut said:
I think that price issue has been done to DEATH now...and yes I am partly responsible so I won't prattle on about it again...the main issue I have with this car every review mentions. "light weight" and "weight saving technology"...so why isn't it light then?
Lexus LFA - 1480kg, Ferrari 458 - 1485kg, Porsche 911 Turbo S - 1585kg, Aston Martin DBS - 1695kg.

Reckon it acquits itself quite well in that company. For reference, a Mondeo weighs about 1560kg.

Just don't mention the Gallardo Superleggera or the GT3 RS, 'cos they weigh 1340kg and 1370kg respectively...whistle...
I was going to use both those as a bench mark! And the fact a fully loaded 458 is the same weight kind of validates my point..it's light enough as supercar's go but its not a lightweight car..if that makes any sense.
At 1200kg like the Gumpert Apollo and Koeninsegg CCX it could of been savagely quick....it would of been circa 460 bhp per tonne rather than the current 370.

Nice driving BTW.

Edited by Dagnut on Thursday 15th July 12:32

jains15

1,013 posts

173 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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We need to applaud Toyota for this car, and ignore the price.

The performance does not matter. The looks don't matter. the indicator stalks don't matter. the price does not matter in any way.

What matters is the production techniques and materials that Toyota have pioneered, basically they've invented an automated composite materials process. In an ideal world, this will result in stronger, stiffer, safer and better cars for all of us.


havoc

30,069 posts

235 months

Thursday 15th July 2010
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Riggers: You bd. You lucky, lucky bd.

I know motoring journos get all the good jobs (and then they chuck a Kia 1.2 washing machine at you so you can go all Troy Queef for a day wink ), but that is one of the first times I've been properly, genuinely envious.

(Probably because I've met you and you're just like everyone else on here, not some be-pedestalled oppo-meister-in-his-own-copy. Dunno why, but that seems to make it worse...)



Anyway, nice write-up, and utterly lovely car. And I would have mine in white...