RE: BMW M5: You know you want to...

RE: BMW M5: You know you want to...

Wednesday 21st July 2010

BMW M5: You know you want to...

We tempt your/our wallets with the low-down on some old M5s



The recent PH Heroes article on the E28 M5 has got us a bit dribbly over BMW's original large M division offering, with the inevitable result that we've been cruising the classifieds to see what the old girls are going for these days.

Turns out that they're not going very often - the only E28 M5 we spotted was a lonely Lachs Silver example going for £10,995 in our very own PH classifieds (right).

A fairly obvious reason for this that the original M5 never was particularly numerous in the first place - barely more than 2000 were produced between 1985 and 1988, and we're told that only 187 of them found their way to the UK.


This one looks to be a nice enough example, but we'd rather sit tight and wait for one without the optional bodykit - makes it look a little dated and too much like its M535i little brother for our tastes.

Of course, £10,995 can also buy you the 114bhp stronger 400bhp V8 E39 M5. We found this E39 for sale by the same dealer with the E28 M5 - and if you can ignore the pretty painful combo of 'violet blue heritage' leather and wood trim it seems like quite a tidy car for its 64k miles.

It's also pretty indicative of where the market is for E39s, it seems. Leggy pre-facelift cars are going for £8k or £9k, while around £16k ought to bag you a late, low-mileage example with little more than 40,000 miles under its wheels.


It's all mighty tempting, but a quick phone call to the folks at BMW specialists Munich Legends did highlight a few things to be wary of. There are a few issues with the engine's electrics, for starters, particularly camshaft position sensors. Air flow meters are also weak points, apparently, as are Vanos units.

Suspension bushes and ball joints also wear out quickly (a tell-tale sign of which is uneven tyre wear). High-mileage cars can also suffer from differential oil leaks, so check for wear on the clutch and flywheel.


Frankly it all sounds a bit scary, but Munich Legends reckons that provided they're properly maintained - and, crucially, have always been properly looked after - the big V8 bruiser should make a brilliant all-rounder. Do let us know what you think...

Meanwhile - should you manage to find one - an M5 can be had from as little as £3k-4k. This will be ropey though, so you're probably better off looking out for a tidier one for around £11k (just like the one on PH, in fact).

E28s are a simpler proposition than later M5s, however. Even though the engine is hand-built, the car's basic layout is pretty similar to its common or garden brethren, so it's actually surprisingly easy to maintain.


The dreaded iron oxide is a danger, says Munich Legends, and the E28 is notoriously under-braked, so watch out for warped discs. Also look out for vibrations in the steering, possibly caused by road wear and - again - worn suspension components. Weirdly, the only other major downside is that interior trim parts can be hard to get hold of. And, of course, finding a car in the first place...

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sc4589

Original Poster:

1,958 posts

166 months

Wednesday 21st July 2010
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Useful. If only I could insure one.

Putting the E39 on my list to Santa...

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Wednesday 21st July 2010
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Excellent subliminal advertising there.

On an entirely unrelated note, I'm off to check the Munich Legends website.

Great Pretender

26,140 posts

215 months

Wednesday 21st July 2010
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Give me a moment to prepare...

Mr E

21,635 posts

260 months

Wednesday 21st July 2010
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I would dearly love to replace the Alfa with an E39 M5. I suspect it's a modern classic in a way that the E60 will never be.

Running costs are putting me off.

davido140

9,614 posts

227 months

Wednesday 21st July 2010
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hornetrider said:
Excellent subliminal advertising there.

On an entirely unrelated note, I'm off to check the Munich Legends website.
Didnt work on me...

got to go, I've booked a last minute holiday to Munich.

Dagnut

3,515 posts

194 months

Wednesday 21st July 2010
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What about the E34??

Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Wednesday 21st July 2010
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hornetrider said:
Excellent subliminal advertising there.

On an entirely unrelated note, I'm off to check the Munich Legends website.
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neil_bolton

17,113 posts

265 months

Wednesday 21st July 2010
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I'm sure the gits in PH towers are doing this to taunt me.

>onlyadayawaynow<

TEKNOPUG

18,976 posts

206 months

Wednesday 21st July 2010
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Who one earth ticked the "blue leather interior" option box????!!!

Great Pretender

26,140 posts

215 months

Wednesday 21st July 2010
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Dagnut said:
What about the E34??
I suspect it's been deliberately missed off in a bid to prevent half of Pistonheads becoming bankrupt.

I bigger money pit there has never been.

sc4589

Original Poster:

1,958 posts

166 months

Wednesday 21st July 2010
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TEKNOPUG said:
Who one earth ticked the "blue leather interior" option box????!!!
It's the whole 'Individual' thing... another way to mark yourself out, not only with a large amount of money but also with sometimes dubious options...

Edited by sc4589 on Wednesday 21st July 11:09

Riggers

1,859 posts

179 months

Wednesday 21st July 2010
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TEKNOPUG said:
Who one earth ticked the "blue leather interior" option box????!!!
The same person who thought that it would go well with that particular wood veneer yikes


Dagnut

3,515 posts

194 months

Wednesday 21st July 2010
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Great Pretender said:
Dagnut said:
What about the E34??
I suspect it's been deliberately missed off in a bid to prevent half of Pistonheads becoming bankrupt.

I bigger money pit there has never been.
I know that about them but at least mention them?

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

243 months

Wednesday 21st July 2010
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I'm assuming a call to ML involves a premium rate number at £7.50 a minute.

rallycross

12,825 posts

238 months

Wednesday 21st July 2010
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If you want to enjoy running an old M car there are plenty of good specialists out there who will help you avoid the sort of large bills you can expect from Munich Legends.

Riggers

1,859 posts

179 months

Wednesday 21st July 2010
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Dagnut said:
Great Pretender said:
Dagnut said:
What about the E34??
I suspect it's been deliberately missed off in a bid to prevent half of Pistonheads becoming bankrupt.

I bigger money pit there has never been.
I know that about them but at least mention them?
Know what you're saying, but actually the original idea was just to do a story on the E28. Then we realised there really aren't enough of them out there for that. Then we spotted the E39 for the identical price and thought: aha, there's lots of E39s about... and the article was born...

Having said that, please don't feel it's O/T to talk about E34s, or provide examples you spot in the classifieds smile

rob1234

861 posts

198 months

Wednesday 21st July 2010
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Riggers said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Who one earth ticked the "blue leather interior" option box????!!!
The same person who thought that it would go well with that particular wood veneer yikes

That's awesome!

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

243 months

Wednesday 21st July 2010
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Riggers said:
Having said that, please don't feel it's O/T to talk about E34s, or provide examples you spot in the classifieds smile
Surely, the hundreds of pages of this thread would be a better place for that, though?

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0... ///M Power Bargains - Volume 2


Great Pretender

26,140 posts

215 months

Wednesday 21st July 2010
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Justayellowbadge said:
I'm assuming a call to ML involves a premium rate number at £7.50 a minute.
Whilst the recipient receives an earful of //M filth?

Ne0

62 posts

170 months

Wednesday 21st July 2010
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"suffer from differential oil leaks, so check for wear on the clutch and flywheel."

Surely a better place to look for leaking diff oil would be around the actual diff, which is at the opposite end of the car?!