RE: Driven: Wiesmann MF5 Roadster

RE: Driven: Wiesmann MF5 Roadster

Friday 10th September 2010

Driven: Wiesmann MF5 Roadster

BMW's high-revving V10 unleashed in Germany's classic 'Brit' roadster




We've all had that dream of bounding down the Queen's highway in a classic English sportscar, a classy bit of totty in the passenger seat, and caddish laughter being all it takes to clear the slowcoaches from our path. But (as TVR owners everywhere might attest) life doesn't always work like a '60s film, and we'd probably end up on the side of the road hitting speed dial number one for the AA, while our erstwhile passenger takes-off with a Lambo-owning city boy.

But there's a classic English sportscar built today that could be the answer to all your problems. All you have to do is overlook the fact that the Wiesmann MF5 Roadster is, well, German.


Brothers Friedhelm and Martin Wiesmann fell in love with the classic English designs of the 1960s and wanted to bring the ideal bang up to date, building it round the most modern German mechanical components. So they took design cues from classic Jensens, Austin Healeys and others to create the basic curvaceous shape of their eponymous car, and in its latest incarnation have wrapped it round a BMW M5 drivetrain with 507hp.

In spite of its garish red and white colour scheme, our test car's muscular bodywork comes imbued with old-school character. That front end is a step back in time to a simpler world, with that deep front grille looking like nothing on the road today, and the side profile could have come from an old black and white film. Those swooping wings are made from fibreglass, rather than hand-beaten aluminium or even exotic carbon fibre, but the olde-world charm of the Wiesmann renders such things irrelevant. If we're being picky, then the vents and rear lip spoiler don't quite sit right with the antiquated look, but they're there for a reason.


Because there's a surprise in store when you get past the gorgeous details of the interior, such as the canvas roof that pops on to old fasteners, the hand-stitched leather interior and the billet steel door handles that operate with a firm tug. And that is the raucous noise of the 5.0L V10 that bellows into life with a touch of the starter button and shatters the twee illusion in a heartbeat.

Under the skin of this charming, tweed-clad gent is the thoroughly modern, steroid-fuelled madness of BMW's five-litre V10 that now sits in a package some 400kg lighter than the donor car. The Wiesmann weighs in at 1,395kg, so it's a serious sports car and we have an airfield to get to. Tough times...


For the first leg of the journey, we test the Wiesmann's day-to-day practicality. The gearbox looks like an old-school manual, right down to the golf ball-style shifter. But underneath, all of BMW's systems are still in place so the SMG gearbox retains its flexibility, ranging from full automatic to hard and fast manual changes, and the car can be left in its more laconic 400hp mode to save fuel and your licence.

Of course the auto mode on the original SMG was woeful and, though the lighter package of the Wiesmann improves matters thanks to reduced inertia, it does not stop it feeling as comfortable as falling down the stairs. This gearbox works best in full, hard manual mode - even out on the public road. For those that want a 'true' manual option, Wiesmann offers the MF4 with the V8 and BMW's much-improved DCT dual clutch transmission.


That car is cheaper than this £133,000 extravagance and on the public road is the more sensible blend of outright performance and comfort. But there are always those that want the fastest, the most powerful car in the line-up. As we turn into the airfield, we're cleared for the first flat out blast on the runway. The car starts to pulsate as I blip the throttle with the Sport mode engaged and the full 507bhp straining at the leash; I already know this is going to be good.

The figures state 3.9 seconds to 60mph, a massive 0.6 seconds faster than the M5 that gave its guts for the cause. And with the wind in the hair, that almighty F1-sounding motor breathing free through a sports exhaust and the neck twanging effect of those tyres digging in and sending the car snarling at the horizon like a rabid wolf, it feels even faster.


The Wiesmann is simplicity itself to drive, too, and drive fast. A click of the finger is all it takes to run through the 'box with the paddle shifters, though it needs to close in on the 8,500rpm rev limit as the M5 engine was never blessed with low-end torque.

But then the intoxicating exhaust note ensures that's rarely an issue. With the V10 screaming at the top end, the acceleration is just unbelievable and in a straight line this car will match almost anything. The top end of 192mph is more than enough for the airstrip, too, never mind the road!

As I fast approach the 90-degree left hander with a photographer optimistically lying in the road just ahead, I thank the skies above that I can just stand on the brake and bang down the requisite three gears to haul off the speed and throw it into the corner. And here's where it gets really interesting. A supremely stiff chassis, thanks to a Lotus-style aluminium monocoque, allowed Wiesmann to soften the suspension enough to soak up bumps without sacrificing its cornering capabilities. As I throw it into a bend with way too much speed on the clock it just sticks when it should spin off the road.


The Wiesmann brothers put the gecko on the nose, and atop the factory, as they believe the car sticks to the road like the diminutive lizard sticks to the wall. It's true and they deserve medals for the way they have combined comfort and grip to an almost illogical extent. It's not the easiest car in the world to drift and when you turn the gadgets off and provoke the car, the cute image gives way to an aggressive monster thanks to the short wheelbase, huge power and large engine hanging over the front.

But today is not a normal day and, though Wiesmann drivers regularly gather on track for a few laps, that represents a tiny portion of the car's life. Which is why the lap time compared to a Lamborghini Gallardo or Ferrari 458 is an absolute irrelevance. For the record, it would be a whisker behind both on a hard charge, but on the road it's such a unique proposition, such a charming machine, that the hair's breadth on the stopwatch pales into insignificance.


This is a car for driving through town, to the coast or to the country club, with an outrageous lick of speed, pausing only to soak up the admiration. Everybody loves this car: van drivers stop at junctions, kids point as we cruise past and girls, grandmas and guys alike smile and turn their heads. It has charm, it has style, and it stands out from the most exotic crowd.

It's for those that have already done the Ferrari and Lamborghini and didn't like the kind of attention they got. It's for those that remember the old films with nostalgia and want to relive the '60s in the very best classic English sportscar they can find. Even if it's German.







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appletonn

Original Poster:

699 posts

260 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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I'll take the V8 with the DCT please, but in a more subtle colour combination!

DJC

23,563 posts

236 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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One day I will take the same drugs as everybody else and suddenly find that that isnt a God awful looking pastiche of what they think such a car should look like and that it really is a handsome motorcar.

Oh no, wait, I wont.

Its a frigging insult to British roadsters.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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Actually I rather like this. Given it an 8, but think it should have been a 9.

Colour combo is odd. Hated it when I saw the first pic, but by the bottom of the article I'd realised my error. It's a fab colour combo and look supreme!!

smile

ceriw

1,117 posts

205 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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Its a frigging insult to British roadsters.
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you're absolutely right there- it has a fantastic engine, handles superbly, it's reliable, and in a decent colour scheme -BRG with tan leather perhaps- it wold look sublime.

yes, it's an insult to the british standards.. spot on.

DJC

23,563 posts

236 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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ceriw said:
Its a frigging insult to British roadsters.
you're absolutely right there- it has a fantastic engine, handles superbly, it's reliable, and in a decent colour scheme -BRG with tan leather perhaps- it wold look sublime.

yes, it's an insult to the british standards.. spot on.
But its ugly. Gob smackingly ugly. Its vulgar, garish and all melted lines.

There is not a single iota of style or pretty in that design and at the heart of each of the "best" British roadsters was the simple fact that they were extremely pretty.

They were also for the most part fairly reliable because they were extremely simple. Give me a choice between one of these and a Frogeye or an XK120 or a Big Healey and this thing wouldnt qualify as the running joke.

doodlebug

746 posts

216 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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Wiesmann

fathomfive

9,918 posts

190 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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If these had anything other than an 'M' engine they just wouldn't be talked about.

sa_20v

4,108 posts

231 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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ManWhoCanWriteAndIsClearlyGerman said:
We've all had that dream of bounding down the Queen's highway in a classic English sportscar, a classy bit of totty in the passenger seat, and caddish laughter being all it takes to clear the slowcoaches from our path. But (as TVR owners everywhere might attest) life doesn't always work like a '60s film, and we'd probably end up on the side of the road hitting speed dial number one for the AA, while our erstwhile passenger takes-off with a Lambo-owning city boy.

But there's a classic English sportscar built today that could be the answer to all your problems. All you have to do is buy a Morgan...
EFA. smile

BILL PAYER

526 posts

179 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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Is this colour scheme an attempt at making a normally lovely looking machine appear like it belongs to Noddy ?

shouldbworking

4,769 posts

212 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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BILL PAYER said:
Is this colour scheme an attempt at making a normally lovely looking machine appear like it belongs to Noddy ?
Well im sure Stephen Ireland will be thrilled that there was at least one person in the world who looked at his Bentleys colour scheme and thought 'wow, that looks great, I should do that'


pistonlager

710 posts

194 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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shouldbworking said:
BILL PAYER said:
Is this colour scheme an attempt at making a normally lovely looking machine appear like it belongs to Noddy ?
Well im sure Stephen Ireland will be thrilled that there was at least one person in the world who looked at his Bentleys colour scheme and thought 'wow, that looks great, I should do that'

That Bentley is really, really nasty.

drivin_me_nuts

17,949 posts

211 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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There is something very appealing about a two seater car with olde school cues and a bloody great engine under the bonnet. It's not always about finesse and delicacy and less is more in the MX5 style, sometimes it needs to be copious power, a distinctive style, a degree of exclusivity and and an engine blessed by the gods of petrochemical ignition.

Given a choice of this or a supercar of equivalent price, i'd have this is a shot, in a dark colour with a mid tan interior. The only point of reflection before signing the order form would be going for the littler sister, the V8 pulls on the heartstrings like the V10 does not. Cosmos or Carbon black with a tan interior, will do just fine. Oh fairy godmother, where did you leave your wand?

BILL PAYER

526 posts

179 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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DJC said:
ceriw said:
Its a frigging insult to British roadsters.
you're absolutely right there- it has a fantastic engine, handles superbly, it's reliable, and in a decent colour scheme -BRG with tan leather perhaps- it wold look sublime.

yes, it's an insult to the british standards.. spot on.
But its ugly. Gob smackingly ugly. Its vulgar, garish and all melted lines.

There is not a single iota of style or pretty in that design and at the heart of each of the "best" British roadsters was the simple fact that they were extremely pretty.

They were also for the most part fairly reliable because they were extremely simple. Give me a choice between one of these and a Frogeye or an XK120 or a Big Healey and this thing wouldnt qualify as the running joke.


In that case Mazda have been getting away with it for years with the MX5

tim200sx

452 posts

207 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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The looks are not to my taste at all, and that colour scheme is horrendous - but it sounds like a fun car despite the nasty gearbox.
All the same, I'd take a Cobra or Aero 8 any day of the week.

JumpinJack

404 posts

178 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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pistonlager said:
shouldbworking said:
BILL PAYER said:
Is this colour scheme an attempt at making a normally lovely looking machine appear like it belongs to Noddy ?
Well im sure Stephen Ireland will be thrilled that there was at least one person in the world who looked at his Bentleys colour scheme and thought 'wow, that looks great, I should do that'

That Bentley is really, really nasty.
Just about sums up footballers! That bird isn't going to look too great either if she has a bump sitting that close to the wheel!

As for the wiesmann.... I didn't really like the look of it in the news pic. But after reading the article and seeing it from other angles... Yes please! cloud9

edo

16,699 posts

265 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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the inside looks like a womb, and the front has a vagina (large) on it.

pilchardthecat

7,483 posts

179 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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Love the MF3 and MF4. I'm a massive Weismann fan, they are right at the very top of my want-list.

Why on earth have they produced the MF5 in Wayne Rooney colours?


pddmac

142 posts

261 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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I witnessed one of these pulling into a fuel station in the Eifel mountains, on the way to Nurburgring. Have to say, I was extremely impressed by the build quality, and even more so when it departed in a wonderul howl echoing through the mountains, all us onlookers left behind had a smile on our faces to hear that.

My only gripe is that yet again, a German company has taken the lead in standards that we have never delivered with our line-ups. I say this as the very proud owner of a Cerbera - love it to pieces, but time marches on ...

ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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I've always liked the Wiesmann in a cartoonish sort of way but would go for the simpler options without quite so many electronics (if possible). I'm confused that the article calls a DCT transmission a "real manual" - I'd have said a "real manual" needs a clutch pedal...

I saw a hardtop version on the street in Zurich a few years ago - a worthy competitor to the TVR on the luxury interiors.

Edited by ewenm on Friday 10th September 09:37

pugwash4x4

7,529 posts

221 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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love all of these cars- well engineered, properly built with performance and handling to match (not that i've been lucky enough to drive one!).